Canada one step closer to marijuana legalization

JLM

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Why not. It is nowhere near as bad as alcohol and far less problematic than most synthetic pharmaceuticals. Besides that it is freedom of choice to buy/use it just like liquor or pills or tobacco.


Everyone knows the other sh*t is bad, but that certainly is no excuse to start peddling this sh*t because it's less bad.
 

Machjo

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Everyone knows the other sh*t is bad, but that certainly is no excuse to start peddling this sh*t because it's less bad.

To be fair, I acknowledge that people will buy it anyway, then legalizing could make sense.

I think the difference is motive. Some want to legalized it because they think it's the best stuff sinse sliced bread.

Others, like ne (and maybe you?) just recognise that it's reached such epidemic proportions that it might be time to try a different strategy. Not legalized it to promote it, market it, advertise it, but rather to make it accessible only to those who need it for legitimate medical reasons and addicts who really want it while still keeping it out if sight for everyone else.

In short, we don't want to normalize it. If it must be sold in separate shops, be very hidden, etc., it stigmatizes it, pathologises it.
 

lone wolf

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I think once the thrill of getting away with it's gone, a lot of the thrill-seeker crowd will be gone. It doesn't take long for weed to get boring if all you're getting is stoned....
 

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Laws now require tobacco shops to hide keep tobacco out of sight. Why do you think? Probably to help addicts who are trying to quit.

What I'm saying is now make the shop itself out if site.

It might be hidden, but would still be legal. Those who really want to try it could do so, but out if sight of addicts who are trying to quit.

Why would it? They know WTF a Moke shop is after the s was removed and shower curtains installed to hide product.
 

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You'ld think people learned their lesson with AL Capone
PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK

The illegal profits fund black ops, mobsters, and terrorists...
like John F Kennedy
 

petros

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How about the wreck it caused instead?
Did you drop a butt,burn your balls and hit a tree?

I'd seen the ads in documentaries and read about the history of tobacco advertising recently, so it's all fresh in my brain
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Ads from 60 years ago are impacting your life? Is that nostalgia or nutbar?

Are you looking to insulate your house with asbestos too.
 

Danbones

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Some of you people are so
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXHsK4AQPs
PARANOID already
weed wouldn't make any difference
 

MHz

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Everyone knows the other sh*t is bad, but that certainly is no excuse to start peddling this sh*t because it's less bad.
Actually that would be a good reason, a 'lot less bad' would make it an even better reason.

Did you drop a butt,burn your balls and hit a tree?



Ads from 60 years ago are impacting your life? Is that nostalgia or nutbar?

Are you looking to insulate your house with asbestos too.
If it had been a McD coffee it might have been worth some money.
 

Machjo

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Why would it? They know WTF a Moke shop is after the s was removed and shower curtains installed to hide product.

Of course those who already buy at the smoke shop will know, but it won't get new customers.

Or not as many at least.
 

Danbones

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its a proven fact
Alcohol Prohibition Was A Failure
Alcohol Prohibition Was A Failure

A mistake that has been made is that since is the government gets insane profits from that industry
so THEY are the real abusers today
society is the payer
 

Machjo

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You'ld think people learned their lesson with AL Capone
PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK

The illegal profits fund black ops, mobsters, and terrorists...
like John F Kennedy

But let's learn from prohibition in the 1920" s. Prohibition failed to stop consumption, but it had pushed it underground and so probably at least reduced consumption.

So based on that lesson, let's not criminalise it outright, but simply legally push it underground. In effect, it would reduplicate the successes of the old prohibition laws, but without the harms. And extend it to tobacco, marijuana, porn and gambimg and too.

Sinse it would legal in hiding, the police would waste nooney on that.

Sinse it would be a fineable offence in public, the police would always have witnesses to back it up. It's like saying it's legal if you don't get caught, but literally in this case.
 

Machjo

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Did you drop a butt,burn your balls and hit a tree?



Ads from 60 years ago are impacting your life? Is that nostalgia or nutbar?

Are you looking to insulate your house with asbestos too.

In more recent times, they would reward shops that put cigarette packs in shop windows, then visible locations, purposely.

Why do you think laws had to be enacted to hide the packs?

They'd make the packs attractive. They'd denied the health effects even after their own scientists confirmed them until they couldn't anymore.

They sponsor sports events and promote their brand that way. One cigarette company (can't remember which now) had gone into the coffee industry so it could promote it's brand through coffee to develop brand recognition for its cigarettes.

I have nothing against a tobacco company selling coffee or even apples, but we should require it to do so under a separate company, maybe in the form of the cigarette company owning a coffee company with a different brand name to not promote tobacco brand recognition.

They can't be trusted to not try to promote their product in one way or another.

I wouldn't even be surprised if they up the nicotine content. After all, every other part of the cigarette serves as a nicotine injector. Take the nicotine out of the equation, and the industry would die.

Are you trying to compare Prohibition with not legalizing Pot?

There are parallels, but we can learn from the successes of the prohibition era. It did push alcohol underground very successfully. So if we write laws not to criminalize such products but rather to simply push them underground, that should work.
 

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CIA Jet Crashed With 4 Tons Of Cocaine On Board
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CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking
" alleging that the CIA was behind the 1980s crack epidemic. Gary Webb alleged through his Dark Alliance series that the government had been complicit in the trade of drugs in the inner city through the use of a kingpin named Freeway Ricky Ross. According to the Oakland Tribune, "In the course of his rise, prosecutors estimate that Ross exported several tons of cocaine to New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, and made more than $600 million in the process."[12][13][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
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The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations
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welcome to the real world
 

Machjo

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CIA Jet Crashed With 4 Tons Of Cocaine On Board
CIA Jet Crashed With 4 Tons Of Cocaine On Board AnonHQ
CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking
" alleging that the CIA was behind the 1980s crack epidemic. Gary Webb alleged through his Dark Alliance series that the government had been complicit in the trade of drugs in the inner city through the use of a kingpin named Freeway Ricky Ross. According to the Oakland Tribune, "In the course of his rise, prosecutors estimate that Ross exported several tons of cocaine to New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and elsewhere, and made more than $600 million in the process."[12][13][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
Cause of Afghan War: Opium Poppies – now Guarded by US-Soldiers – to Throw Our Youth into Apathy and Enrich the Elite
Cause of Afghan War: Opium Poppies – now Guarded by US-Soldiers – to Throw Our Youth into Apathy and Enrich the Elite | NEW.EURO-MED.DK
The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations
The Contras, Cocaine, and U.S. Covert Operations

welcome to the real world

So maybe we can do the same with cocaine. Legalize it but prohibit its promotion.
 

Remington1

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Legalizing weed was a coup to get elected, and it worked. The province leaders came out quickly (many have not grown up with weed), demanding to put on the brakes. For many citizens, medical professional, and politician, weed is the same as tobacco, which Ottawa has spent millions of dollars and decades trying to eradicate, for what?? to now be replace by a different smell; is weed good for lungs? is it not considered second hand smoke? But hey! politician will come around once they see the possible huge 'cash grab'. For myself, I never thought legalizing weed meant it would be sold at the LCBO (wonder if it will be in a vintage section; by quality of buds), and soon probably next to tobacco in convenient store.