Prince George's christening to take place at St James's Palace chapel next month

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Congrats to Brits. Not really a Canadian concern.

Well considering that Prince George will one day be your king, I would say that it most definitely is.

I have to admit every time I see the baby's name in print I assume momentarily that it is Prince George BC.

Prince George reminds me of his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-uncle (I think I've got that right), Prince George, the Prince Regent (who became King George IV), seen here played by Hugh Laurie in Blackadder.

 
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Well considering that Prince George will one day be your king, I would say that it most definitely is.

One day he will be just one more spoiled rich European kid with nothing in the way of meaningful connection to Canada. The next day, after somebody has died, he will be a powerless foreign figurehead useful as a silhouette on coins but for no other purpose. If he dies in the meantime, both Canada and I will be entirely unaffected; a different silhouette will simply shift over into his chair.
 

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Prince George is being christened at the Chapel Royal in St James's Palace.

He's being baptised using water from the River Jordan in a replica of the Royal Christening Robe first made in 1841.

The font being used for the Christening is the Lily Font, which is part of the Crown Jewels and is usually stored with the rest of the Jewels in the Tower of London

The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Harry are attending the event.

The guests are Oliver Baker, a friend of William and Catherine at St Andrew's University where they met; Emilia Jardine-Paterson, Catherine's school friend; Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, William and Catherine's Private Secretary; Prince Diana's friend Julia Samuel; Prince William's cousin Zara Tindall and her husband, the former England rugby union star and 2003 Rugby Union World Cup winner Mike Tindall; William's friend William van Cutsem; and Earl Hugh Grosvenor, the son of the Duke of Westminster.

These seven guests are all the baby's godparents.

Kate's family - parents Carole and Michael Middleton and siblings Pippa and James - are also invited.

Meanwhile royal well-wishers have spent a rain-soaked night outside St James's Palace but thankfully the dark clouds, which had threatened to taint the big day during the morning, cleared just in time.

Tourists and royal-watchers stood five-people deep against the railings in an autumnal St James's Park, as the sun shone down on Pall Mall.

Many of the fans, draped in Union Flags, have returned to London three months after spending weeks sleeping outside the Lindo Wing in Paddington where the heir to the throne was born on July 22.


It's Prince George's day! Royal family and godparents arrive at St James's Palace for christening of Kate and William's baby son

The world able to see Prince George in public for the first time in three months as he arrived to be christened

Royal fans braved the wind and rain and slept on street in London to be outside St James's Palace today

George to be baptised by the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chapel Royal this afternoon

Guest list was secret until today and in break from tradition most of uncles, aunts and cousins not invited

The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh celebrating with the Prince of Wales, the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Harry

Kate's family also there

The Queen with three future monarchs - Charles, William and George together

George will be baptised using water from the River Jordan in a replica of royal christening robe first made in 1841

Christening followed by tea at Clarence House served with slices of Kate and William's wedding cake from 2011

By Martin Robinson
23 October 2013
Daily Mail

Prince George and his parents the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have arrived at St James's Palace for the christening of the future king.

Outside St James's Palace crowds gathered to catch a glimpse of the heir the throne, who was seen in public for only the second time since he was born in July.

The three-month-old prince, wearing a long christening robe, was carried by his mother and father who joined the handful of royals attending his baptism, which has been described as an 'intimate family affair'.

Only five senior royals, the Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles, the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Harry will see the heir to the throne baptised by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Most Rev Justin Welby, in the little known Chapel Royal this afternoon.

Sweet child: The public got the chance to see three-month-old future king Prince George as he was taken into St James's Palace for his christening today. He's being baptised using water from the River Jordan in a replica of the Royal Christening Robe first made in 1841. It was made by the Queen's Dressmaker, Angela Kelly. The font being used for the Christening is the Lily Font, which is part of the Crown Jewels and is usually stored with the rest of the Jewels in the Tower of London



Smiling and happy: The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge grinned at their family as they held their young prince


Grinning dad: The Duke of Cambridge arrived holding his first-born son Prince George who will one day be king




Touching: William and Kate laugh uproariously as they speak to Her Majesty the Queen, who is George's great-grandmother

Kate's family - parents Carole and Michael Middleton and siblings Pippa and James - are also invited, along with the godparents.

It came as the Cambridges revealed they have chosen old friends and only one royal, Zara Tindall, to be godparents to three-month-old George.

Meanwhile royal well-wishers have spent a rain-soaked night outside St James's Palace but thankfully the dark clouds, which had threatened to taint the big day during the morning, cleared just in time.

Tourists and royal-watchers stood five-people deep against the railings in an autumnal St James's Park, as the sun shone down on Pall Mall.

Many of the fans, draped in Union Flags, have returned to London three months after spending weeks sleeping outside the Lindo Wing in Paddington where the heir to the throne was born on July 22.

Break in the clouds: After standing in wet, windy conditions crowds gathered in the Autumn sunshine at St James's Palace to see the future king


Glowing mother: Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge rubs the arm of her young son Prince George as he sits patiently in his car seat




Grandparents: Michael and Carole Middleton seen arriving for the christening of Prince George at the central London palace





Loving uncle and auntie: Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton grinned as they walked towards the historic chapel where George would be baptised


Royal arrival: Prince Charles is driven to the christening of his first grandchild Prince George at St James's Palace in London this afternoon




Proud uncle and godmother: Prince Harry, top, followed by a smiling former England rugby union star Mike Tindall and his wife Zara (Prince William's cousin and a godparent to Prince George), bottom, head to join other guests at the baptism to be carried out by the Archbishop of Canterbury


On their way: The entourage including the Land Rover carrying the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their three-month-old son leaving the gates of Kensington Palace

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince George arrived at St James's Palace in a dark blue Jaguar, at 2.30pm.

Kate wore a white jacket and large white fascinator - or hatinator - with her hair in a partial up-do.

She smiled broadly to the crowds from the back seat, while Prince William, who wore a suit with a white shirt and pale blue tie, sat in the front.

As they pulled into the grounds, Kate appeared distracted and bent down to her right, as if she was tending to baby George.

Prince Charles was driven into the palace at 12.30am in a black Range Rover to much applause, followed by Prince Harry at 2pm.

Harry gave a small smile to the crowds as he was escorted through the gates in a green Land Rover Discovery.



Enthusiasts: Royal Fans, many of whom have slept outside overnight, have returned to London three months after Prince George's birth so they can celebrate his christening today



Royal supporters: Well-wishers (left to right) Terry Hutt, Julie Cain, Marie Scott and John Loughrey brave the bad weather as they set up camp up outside the Chapel Royal, St James's Palace in London ahead of the christening of Prince George today


The Cambridges have broken from royal tradition by not having their son christened at Buckingham Palace, and in a further step away from protocol they have left off the majority of Her Majesty's children and grandchildren.

William's aunts, Princess Anne and Sophie, Countess of Wessex, have been left off the guest list, and George’s great-uncles, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward, are also not attending the hugely anticipated event.

Prince George will wear the hand made replica of the Royal Christening Robe, made by Angela Kelly, Dressmaker to The Queen.

The Lily Font and water from the River Jordan will be used during the baptism.

Following the service, The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall will give a private tea in Clarence House. Guests will be served slices of christening cake, which is a tier taken from The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s wedding cake.

There has been speculation about who the Cambridges might choose to be their son's mentors.

Now it has been announced that The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have chosen old friends rather than other royals and dignitaries to be godparents to three-month-old Prince George, it was announced today.

Prince William's cousin Zara Tindall, Kate's old schoolfriend Emilia Jardine-Paterson, and family friend William van Cutsem have all been asked to take on the role.

The other godparents are the couple's university friend Oliver Baker, William and Harry's Private Secretary Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, the Duke of Westminster's son Hugh Grosvenor, and Julia Samuel, an old friend of Princess Diana's.

The seven godparents, announced this morning, show how the Cambridges have dispensed with the tradition of picking other royals and foreign dignitaries, choosing instead close friends to guide their first-born son.

The Most Rev Justin Welby, who has already spoken of the 'great privilege and honour' of baptising George, said today he hoped that others will be inspired to seek the same ceremony for themselves and their children.

He added: 'As a nation we're celebrating the birth of someone who in due course will be the head of state.

'That's extraordinary. It gives you this sense of forward looking, of the forwardness of history as well as the backwardness of history, and what a gift to have this new life and to look forward.



A handful of royal fans braved overnight downpours to claim their spot outside St James's Palace for Prince George's christening.

The group wore Union flag-patterned clothes and held banners to congratulate the future king.

Terry Hutt, 78, from Cambridge, said: 'As a parent, we all want our children christened and there's no difference between George and us really.

'What makes it really special is he's a newcomer, he could well be a king one day and, if he follows his father's footsteps, I'm sure between them they will make two good kings.'

Julie Cain, 50, from Newcastle, arrived at 7.30am yesterday morning.

'I couldn't be at the birth so I just wanted to be here.

'It's tradition, another piece of history in the making, and I just didn't want to miss it,' she said.

But Miss Cain admitted her chances of catching a glimpse of the Royal Family were limited.

She said: 'We've been told we won't be seeing much of anything, but at least we can say we were here.'

John Loughrey, 58, from Wandsworth, south-west London, was among those who spent last night sheltering under a tarpaulin erected in a road opposite the Palace.

'This is history and I'm here to see it,' he said.

Mr Loughrey claimed the whole country was 'going mad' about Prince George.

'I'm excited, we're all getting excited,' he added. 'I can't wait.'

The ornate Lily Font used to baptise Prince George, was made for the christening of Queen Victoria's eldest child Victoria, Princess Royal.

Crafted out of silver gilt, the edge of the fluted bowl is decorated with sprays of flowers and ivy and the scrolled sides of the high base feature three large cherubs playing lyres.

It has traditionally been used for royal christenings, including all of Queen Victoria's children.

It was used at the christenings of all the Queen's children and her grandchildren, except Princess Eugenie who was baptised at the Church of St Mary Magdalene in Sandringham.

The font, which will have been brought to the Chapel Royal from the Tower of London where it is usually on show as part of the Crown Jewels, takes its name from its distinctive lily shaped stem.

Made by silversmiths EJ and W Barnard in 1840 for Victoria, Princess Royal's christening in 1841, it stands 17 inches high and sixteen-and-a-half inches in diameter.

It also features the royal arms of Queen Victoria and the joint royal arms of Victoria and Prince Albert - Prince George's great-great-great-great-great-grandparents, who were married in the Chapel Royal in 1840.

When royal christenings are held in the Chapel Royal, it is tradition to use holy water taken from the River Jordan, where it is said Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist.

WILLIAM AND KATE'S 22 GUESTS TO ENJOY TEA AND WEDDING CAKE



After Prince George's christening, Prince Charles and Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, will give a private tea at Clarence House.

The centrepiece will be the extraordinary cake that William and Kate enjoyed at their wedding reception.

On April 29, 2011, Prince William and his new wife cut the first slice of the magnificent eight-tiered wedding cake, but one of the tiers was saved for today.

Maker Fiona Cairns spent five weeks working on it along with her large team.

Kate had asked for the Joseph Lambeth technique of cake decoration, where intricate piping is used to make three dimensional scroll work, leaves, flowers and other adornments.

The then bride also gave Ms Cairns detailed instructions for her to include 17 different blooms and foliage for symbolism - known as the ‘language of flowers’.

The four flowers of the home nations - English rose, Scottish thistle, Welsh daffodil and Irish shamrock - were featured on the penultimate tier and the top cake, around six inches in diameter, was covered with lace details with a garland of lily of the valley and heather on top.

ROYAL GUEST LIST REVEALED: WHO WILL SEE BABY GEORGE BAPTISED

Family:

The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh

The Prince of Wales, The Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Harry

Michael, Carole, James and Pippa Middleton

Prince George’s Godparents:

Oliver Baker - friend from university

Emilia Jardine-Paterson - School friend of Kate

Earl Hugh Grosvenor

Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton - Past Private Secretary to The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

Julia Samuel - Close friend of Princess Diana

Zara Tindall - The Duke of Cambridge’s cousin

William van Cutsem - childhood friend of William


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Blah, Blah, Blah!!! Who give a rat's a$$!! They are just people, no better than anyone else, in fact worse than most because of centuries of inbreeding. They are not news except to those who for some unfathomable reason seem to believe the royals are some superior race or something. It really is time they were disbanded and made to be just like everyone else with real jobs and real expenses and real taxation.

Do I detect sour grapes Nick? Hope you send them a nice card! Or I could add your name to mine! -:)
 

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Blah, Blah, Blah!!! Who give a rat's a$$!! They are just people, no better than anyone else, in fact worse than most because of centuries of inbreeding. They are not news except to those who for some unfathomable reason seem to believe the royals are some superior race or something. It really is time they were disbanded and made to be just like everyone else with real jobs and real expenses and real taxation.

Nick has a good point. Tax free status has no place in a country where all people are equal. As well they are a cornerstone of the British class system in which some people are considered a better class of person than others. Apart from the notional benefit of a head of state without the tarnish of politics, they are useless. And yes, they are inbred.

Do I detect sour grapes Nick? Hope you send them a nice card! Or I could add your name to mine! -:)

It isn't a question of sour grapes, but of constitutional equality. Canada has no constitutional place for a class of people who are considered better than the bulk of "commoners".
 

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my older sister who is a royal fan missed the baptism. she would like to know if it is going to be reaired.
 

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Epic failure on your part.

All people aren't equal, are they?

For example, I consider myself to be of a higher class that a peasant on a sink estate.

15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

Class systems are most common to banana republics, fascist powers and insecure people. Most aren't as "in your face" is Britain.
 

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Epic failure on your part.

Yours actually. My understanding is that you Brits don't tax royalty or their corporations. In any event, if the person is tax free all corporate assets over cost can be transferred to the tax free person and effectively render the company tax free.

For example, I consider myself to be of a higher class that a peasant on a sink estate.

Care to put that to a poll here?
 
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Your actually. My understanding is that you Brits don't tax royalty or their corporations.

Your understanding. . . that's the problem.

Members of the Royal Family other than The Queen and The Prince of Wales are subject to tax in the ordinary way.[21] There is a Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation, dated 5 February 1993, which records the arrangements for the payment of tax by The Queen and The Prince of Wales.[22][23] Only a proportion of capital gains arising on assets belonging to the Privy Purse are subject to capital gains tax. The Memorandum of Understanding justifies this on the basis that the Privy Purse meets both public and private expenditure. The proportion of gains and losses to be taken into account is:
(A - B)/A

where:
A is the Privy Purse income
B is any excess of Privy Purse expenses over Duchy of Lancaster income.[24]
The Prince of Wales is not legally obliged to pay tax on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall but has chosen to pay income tax at the normal rates pursuant to the Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation. The income of the Prince of Wales from sources other than the Duchy of Cornwall is subject to tax in the normal way.[23]
From 1969 Prince Charles made voluntary tax payments of 50% of profits from the Duchy of Cornwall, but this reduced to 25% in 1981 when he married Lady Diana Spencer.[25] This arrangement was replaced by the Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation in 1993.
The Official Expenditure of the Queen and the Prince of Wales is regarded as tax deductible. The rules on what constitutes Official Expenditure are set in the Memorandum of Understanding.[23]
Property passing from monarch to monarch is exempt from Inheritance Tax, as is property passing from the consort of a former monarch to the current monarch.[26]

Finances of the British Royal Family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corporation Tax rates
Rates for financial years starting on 1 April
Rate 2011 2012 2013 2014
Small profits rate* 20%* 20%* 20%*
Small profits rate can be claimed by qualifying companies with profits at a rate not exceeding £300,000 £300,000 £300,000
Marginal Relief Lower Limit £300,000 £300,000 £300,000
Marginal Relief Upper Limit £1,500,000 £1,500,000 £1,500,000
Standard fraction 3/200 1/100 3/400
Main rate of Corporation Tax* 26%* 24%* 23%* 21%*
Special rate for unit trusts and open-ended investment companies 20% 20% 20%*
Main rate of Corporation Tax
The main rate of Corporation Tax applies when profits (including ring fence profits) are at a rate exceeding £1,500,000, or where there is no claim to another rate, or where another rate does not apply.
In addition to the rates set out in the above table, the main rate of Corporation Tax for 2015 is set at 20 per cent. The small profits rate will be unified with the main rate, so from 1 April 2015 there will be only one Corporation Tax rate for non-ring fence profits - set at 20 per cent.

HM Revenue & Customs: Corporation Tax rates
 

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Your understanding. . . that's the problem.

Members of the Royal Family other than The Queen and The Prince of Wales are subject to tax in the ordinary way.[21] There is a Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation, dated 5 February 1993, which records the arrangements for the payment of tax by The Queen and The Prince of Wales.[22][23] Only a proportion of capital gains arising on assets belonging to the Privy Purse are subject to capital gains tax. The Memorandum of Understanding justifies this on the basis that the Privy Purse meets both public and private expenditure. The proportion of gains and losses to be taken into account is:
(A - B)/A

where:
A is the Privy Purse income
B is any excess of Privy Purse expenses over Duchy of Lancaster income.[24]
The Prince of Wales is not legally obliged to pay tax on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall but has chosen to pay income tax at the normal rates pursuant to the Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation. The income of the Prince of Wales from sources other than the Duchy of Cornwall is subject to tax in the normal way.[23]
From 1969 Prince Charles made voluntary tax payments of 50% of profits from the Duchy of Cornwall, but this reduced to 25% in 1981 when he married Lady Diana Spencer.[25] This arrangement was replaced by the Memorandum of Understanding on Royal Taxation in 1993.
The Official Expenditure of the Queen and the Prince of Wales is regarded as tax deductible. The rules on what constitutes Official Expenditure are set in the Memorandum of Understanding.[23]
Property passing from monarch to monarch is exempt from Inheritance Tax, as is property passing from the consort of a former monarch to the current monarch.[26]

Finances of the British Royal Family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corporation Tax rates
Rates for financial years starting on 1 April
Rate 2011 2012 2013 2014
Small profits rate* 20%* 20%* 20%*
Small profits rate can be claimed by qualifying companies with profits at a rate not exceeding £300,000 £300,000 £300,000
Marginal Relief Lower Limit £300,000 £300,000 £300,000
Marginal Relief Upper Limit £1,500,000 £1,500,000 £1,500,000
Standard fraction 3/200 1/100 3/400
Main rate of Corporation Tax* 26%* 24%* 23%* 21%*
Special rate for unit trusts and open-ended investment companies 20% 20% 20%*
Main rate of Corporation Tax
The main rate of Corporation Tax applies when profits (including ring fence profits) are at a rate exceeding £1,500,000, or where there is no claim to another rate, or where another rate does not apply.
In addition to the rates set out in the above table, the main rate of Corporation Tax for 2015 is set at 20 per cent. The small profits rate will be unified with the main rate, so from 1 April 2015 there will be only one Corporation Tax rate for non-ring fence profits - set at 20 per cent.

HM Revenue & Customs: Corporation Tax rates

Whew. You work in a tax firm 'r summat?
 

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Bout thirty seconds on google. I like to know what I'm talking about. A preference you clearly don't share.

Google's ok., but too American oriented to be useful in all things. American public education, especially in red states, is substandard.