UN calls Canada’s pullout from drought fighting convention ‘regrettable’

[Tonington]

The message being sent is political. This isn't about the nominal amount of money spent

Really? That's not what the politicians said, or for that matter posters in this thread. This may be too nuanced for some people, but some of what the UN does is actually a good thing. So if it's not worth fighting food insecurity, then what is the rational for other government programs, like the ad campaign for the Economic Action Plan?

I for one appreciate when politicians treat me like an adult, instead of bothersome children that don't really need to know why a decision was made.

Though I appreciate what you're saying about politics. Like I said, for some people it may be politically disturbing to admit a huge multi-government body like the UN can do anything but wasteful spending and one-world conspiracy planning.

 

[Goober]

The message being sent is political. This isn't about the nominal amount of money spent

For about 300 K all they did was reinforce in people minds that they are against working within the UN- against the environment and that is a great big weak spot for the Cons. Now this will come back and haunt them in much the same way that the only voice for Canada is Stephen Harper.

And having Julian explain why they did it. Baird threw out the sacrificial dummy.

 

[darkbeaver]

Like I said, for some people it may be politically disturbing to admit a huge multi-government body like the UN can do anything but wasteful spending and one-world conspiracy planning.

This would be a good place for you to list the successful benevolent UN programs.

 

[Tonington]

This would be a good place for you to list the successful benevolent UN programs.

For starters, how about Small Pox and Rinderpest eradication?

 

[captain morgan]

Really?

Yes, really

That's not what the politicians said, or for that matter posters in this thread. This may be too nuanced for some people, but some of what the UN does is actually a good thing. So if it's not worth fighting food insecurity, then what is the rational for other government programs, like the ad campaign for the Economic Action Plan?

Since when do politicians take a direct path on anything.

As for food security, Canada doesn't face that issue directly like other nations do, but lets face facts here; the UN is tying this dept to their global warming hobby horse.

Canada's withdrawal is a clear sign to the UN that they won't be strong-armed into their little tax scheme to transfer wealth to emerging economies for sh*ts and giggles.

Though I appreciate what you're saying about politics. Like I said, for some people it may be politically disturbing to admit a huge multi-government body like the UN can do anything but wasteful spending and one-world conspiracy planning.

The UN has strayed far from its original course years ago. They have morphed from being a compact and effective body to that of a politically driven organization that works to fuel its agenda first, and the delivery of solutions to problems resides way down on the list of priorities.

 

[Goober]

Yes, really



Since when do politicians take a direct path on anything.

As for food security, Canada doesn't face that issue directly like other nations do, but lets face facts here; the UN is tying this dept to their global warming hobby horse.

Canada's withdrawal is a clear sign to the UN that they won't be strong-armed into their little tax scheme to transfer wealth to emerging economies for sh*ts and giggles.



The UN has strayed far from its original course years ago. They have morphed from being a compact and effective body to that of a politically driven organization that works to fuel its agenda first, and the delivery of solutions to problems resides way down on the list of priorities.

The UN is completely corrupt- from the Top down. A few years ago they had a conference in Geneva, a nice inexpensive city - 8000 attended. 8000, how much was accomplished. It is bloated beyond reason.

 

[darkbeaver]

For starters, how about Small Pox and Rinderpest eradication?

Theories just theories.

The UN is completely corrupt- from the Top down. A few years ago they had a conference in Geneva, a nice inexpensive city - 8000 attended. 8000, how much was accomplished. It is bloated beyond reason.

Usually there is a reason for bloated beyond reason though. Further to that it may be found that the reason for the bloat may itself be bloated giving rise to compound unreasonable bloating. Bloating beyond reason begets more bloating beyond reason. Perhaps this is why today we have exponential bloating beyond reason.

 

[Goober]

Theories just theories.



Usually there is a reason for bloated beyond reason though. Further to that it may be found that the reason for the bloat may itself be bloated giving rise to compound unreasonable bloating. Bloating beyond reason begets more bloating beyond reason. Perhaps this is why today we have exponential bloating beyond reason.

I guess those Drs. and Nurses being murdered in Nigeria,Pakistan and Afghanistan for performing Polio vaccinations are just theories as well.

 

[DaSleeper]

And how about the UN responsibility for the restrictions on ddt in malaria infected countries causing an estimated 50 million deaths????

Malaria Victims: How Environmentalist Ban on DDT Caused 50 Million Deaths - Discover the Networks

 

[Tonington]

As for food security, Canada doesn't face that issue directly like other nations do

That's stupid. Canada certainly does. The last one cost us about $6 billion. And of course drought threatens the food security of a nation. That is not even an arguable comment at all.

the UN is tying this dept to their global warming hobby horse.

Gee, who would have thought that climate might be related to drought...

And how about the UN responsibility for the restrictions on ddt in malaria infected countries causing an estimated 50 million deaths????

Malaria Victims: How Environmentalist Ban on DDT Caused 50 Million Deaths - Discover the Networks

Horse crap. DDT is still used to this day for vector control; in fact it was and still is used by the World Health Organization for vector control. See for yourself:
http://www.who.int/whopes/Insecticides_IRS_Malaria_09.pdf

This is one of those talking points that people love to use, that is totally devoid of substance and fact.

Like I said, some people are just ideologically opposed to the idea that they might just do some good...

 

[Angstrom]

For once a "for smaller government" government actually is trying to shrink the government. Let them do it for god sake... Our government is to big no one can deny that can they?


It's not like Canada is withdrawing from all UN comity's. just the ones that pretend they give a crap about The environment but actually are only planing to profit from this popular environmentalist movement.

 

[DaSleeper]

That's stupid. Canada certainly does. The last one cost us about $6 billion. And of course drought threatens the food security of a nation. That is not even an arguable comment at all.



Gee, who would have thought that climate might be related to drought...



Horse crap. DDT is still used to this day for vector control; in fact it was and still is used by the World Health Organization for vector control. See for yourself:
http://www.who.int/whopes/Insecticides_IRS_Malaria_09.pdf

This is one of those talking points that people love to use, that is totally devoid of substance and fact.

Like I said, some people are just ideologically opposed to the idea that they might just do some good...

For indoor spraying.....................for bed bugs...... roaches etc.....got anything for outside skeeters that carry malaria??

 

[taxslave]

And how about the UN responsibility for the restrictions on ddt in malaria infected countries causing an estimated 50 million deaths????

Malaria Victims: How Environmentalist Ban on DDT Caused 50 Million Deaths - Discover the Networks

DDT, much like Asbestos is not PC even tho both can be used safely.

 

[petros]

I for one appreciate when politicians treat me like an adult, instead of bothersome children that don't really need to know why a decision was made.

When was the last time a UN decision was made after public consultation?

 

[darkbeaver]

I guess those Drs. and Nurses being murdered in Nigeria,Pakistan and Afghanistan for performing Polio vaccinations are just theories as well.

Since wherever the polio vaccines go so goes polio epidemics. You'd do what? Roll up your sleeve and stand in line? All the world are not as stupid as we in the west Goober.

The number of polio cases was declining before the widespread administration of the Salk vaccine. Cases which had previously been reported as polio are now reported as meningitis. The risk of contracting polio from the live virus vaccine is greater than the risk of acquiring the disease from naturally occurring viruses.



Untested vaccines causing new wave of polio-like ... - Natural News

Apr 20, 2012 ... (NaturalNews) The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is financially backing and publicly endorsing mass polio virus vaccinations in India.
www.naturalnews.com/035627_polio_vaccines_paralysis_India.html




Study: Polio vaccine campaign in India has caused ... - Natural News

Apr 17, 2012 ... (NaturalNews) The mainstream media has been busy hailing the supposed success of India's polio vaccine campaign over the past few years, ...
www.naturalnews.com/035588_polio_vaccine_India_paralysis.html



78 percent of Pakistani children with polio were ... - Natural News

Jun 2, 2011 ... (NaturalNews) In the last year, as Pakistan has lost favor with the US and UNICEF, polio virus has paralyzed increasing numbers of Pakistani ...
www.naturalnews.com/032587_polio_vaccines_Pakistan.html


Vitamin C cured polio during the epidemic of 1948 - 49 - Natural News

Apr 27, 2012 ... (NaturalNews) It's common for shills and Internet "trolls" commenting on vaccination articles to reference the "eradication of polio" as a vaccine ...
www.naturalnews.com/035696_polio_vitamin_C_history.html

Dr. Jonas Salk, inventor of polio vaccine, exposed as ... - Natural News

Mar 2, 2011 ... Dr. Jonas Salk, inventor of polio vaccine, exposed as criminal-minded scientist who conducted illicit medical experiments on mental patients.
www.naturalnews.com/031564_Jonas_Salk_medical_experiments.html

 

[Tonington]

When was the last time a UN decision was made after public consultation?

Can't remember how to use a search engine?
United Nations News Centre - Global public outreach helping to shape future development agenda, UN reports

Since wherever the polio vaccines go so goes polio epidemics.

No, it's the other way around dim rodent. I suppose we shouldn't send firefighters to fight fires by your brilliant logic...

 

[petros]

Can't remember how to use a search engine?
United Nations News Centre - Global public outreach helping to shape future development agenda, UN reports

Wow!

I never knew somebody could be that thick, niave and big of an azzhole.

That's all I have to or can say.

 

[tay]

World 195 - Canada 1

The Harper government has pulled Canada out of the U.N. convention to fight drought in the world.

We're officially the only country to exit the drought agreement. Every other nation remains a party to the convention.

We stand alone, supposedly because John Baird wasn't pleased with "the results" the group had achieved. With a government as duplicitous and secretive as Harper's we can only guess at this government's true motives. It certainly wasn't the trifling amount Canada was contributing to the effort. For the period 2010 to 2013 Canada kicked in a whopping $283,000.

The government’s decision to pull Canada out of the convention came just one month before a major scientific gathering to be hosted by the Bonn-based secretariat of the UN convention.

The meeting would have forced Canada to confront scientific analysis on the effects of climate change, droughts and encroaching deserts. The Harper government has been vilified an as outlier on climate change policy in past international meetings.

“Anything that they’re involved in that can lead to more evidence that we’re a planet in crisis environmentally they don’t want to be part of,” said Maude Barlow, head of the Council of Canadians and the author of a forthcoming book on global droughts.

“They simply do not want this information coming forward.”

Harper & Co. have made Canada a disgrace to the world community and they have disgraced all of us. Their conniving secrecy and dishonesty reveals the depth of their loathing and contempt for our country and our people. They are a collective abomination on our land.

Harper defends pulling out of UN desert convention, says it is too bureaucratic - The Globe and Mail

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: World 195 - Canada 1

See http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/114882-un-calls-canada-s-pullout.html

 

[captain morgan]

That's stupid. Canada certainly does. The last one cost us about $6 billion.

I suppose that all depends on how one goes about defining the cause-du-jour and applies the math to come up with this number... Fact is; based on the running definition the issue of food security will never be solved (practically speaking).

So, what's the point in having a UN body formed to address this issue - that's right, it's another convenient opportunity to pry more money from the pockets of member nations to fund this pseudo-governmental body

Gee, who would have thought that climate might be related to drought...

Solar activity is related to global warming too... How come no tax to combat this?

Like I said, some people are just ideologically opposed to the idea that they might just do some good...

They haven't done any good for years. The 'ideological problem' is entirely that of the UN