I voted nah, grade twelve is meaningless, except and perhaps if you're looking for people who will endure torture and mind fornication for twelve straight years without getting up and leaving.
POLL: Should a Grade 12 Education Be Mandatory?
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Hmm... a style that suits them. I dunno. The premise of this thread is that someone is intellectually deficient in some way because they can't quickly and concisely manipulate numbers in their head. They may have college under their belt for all you know, but be weak at mathematic manipulations. So, if the premise is that a simple failing in an individual makes you assume no education, how do you set up an education system that lets that person adapt to their weaknesses?
They sound like intelligent accomplished young people. As soon as the boredom kicks in you have to get up and leave. There is no telling what staying past that has done, but I bet were it studied the results would be shocking.
Does it? The advent of the internet and the push for higher education in our kids, has sparked a hellfire of intellectual superiority that I think people need to rein in, not shower down upon everyone. Not everyone out there is cut out for formal education. Not everyone is wired to learn in our education system. And even those who make it through might seem 'stupid'.
If we had to educate people until they reached the age of reason, half the population would be in school until they were in their 50s.
Not even close to true for what I have seen. At least not in the schools were I work.
I don't believe anything would be achieved by forcing them to sit there for extra time. There are just so many variables as to why some kids don't do well in our "middle class" school system. And the system is already over burdened as it is. The old saying, one can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink would be applicable here.
LMAO....After working in a business environment for most of my life, I now have to pay union dues because I do job coverage for people in a union so yeah I can somewhat understand where you are coming from. Nice gig if you can get it though...lol.
The problem with anything less than grade 12 is that even factories now require it. Also anyone with only a grade 12 isn't really well educated anyway. Not any more.
In fact my mum never went past grade 8 but her grammar was impeccable and her math skills far superior to mine. I am not sure what the answer is in the fast paced environment.
Yes but some kids are coming from such an horrendous environment all they want to do is "their time" and then escape. Can't blame them for that. Besides it isn't like kids can't get their equivalency later when they are in a better head space. And some kids just will be on the welfare teat period.
The problem with anything less than grade 12 is that even factories now require it. Also anyone with only a grade 12 isn't really well educated anyway. Not any more.
In fact my mum never went past grade 8 but her grammar was impeccable and her math skills far superior to mine. I am not sure what the answer is in the fast paced environment.
That skill will be passé come February 4; it will be replaced by rounding to the nearest 5 cents.
Definitely keep the little buggars in school to end of Grade 12 or age 18 (whichever comes first). Too many on the GD golf courses during weekdays!
When I was in high school (Quebec), we only had to go to grade 11. There was an extra year for college prep but it was separate.
School is more like a glorified baby sitting service to keep the kids occupied while both parents work.
I had a friend in high school who played golf. He could pick a squirrel out of a tree will his club and ball. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. I could, however, pick a chipmunk out of a tree with a rock by throwing it.
Most poor folk I know finished school and were, frankly, intelligent people. They're just lazy. Whereas, the dropouts I know are successful businessmen. They were the ones who were too busy getting into the workforce to attend class, and had no interest in being there because they weren't 'smart'.
I think the real problem is that the employer didn't hire qualified people.
I am against forcing everyone to get their grade 12 or equivalent. The entire concept of standardized education is a bad idea. Everyone has their own unique potential and way of learning. The current education system fails children at either end of the bell curve. Children who are too bright or to simple minded both have trouble getting their grade 12. The bright ones are bored silly and the simple minded are overwhelmed.
A better system is one where every child has a unique education plan based on their abilities and potential. I would support standardized tests which prove ability and identify qualifications for work and post secondary education opportunities.
I am against forcing everyone to get their grade 12 or equivalent. The entire concept of standardized education is a bad idea. Everyone has their own unique potential and way of learning. The current education system fails children at either end of the bell curve. Children who are too bright or to simple minded both have trouble getting their grade 12. The bright ones are bored silly and the simple minded are overwhelmed.
A better system is one where every child has a unique education plan based on their abilities and potential. I would support standardized tests which prove ability and identify qualifications for work and post secondary education opportunities.
Just try to get into BCIT or one of the universities without grade twelve. Grade twelve should be a minimum standard.
If a young person has grade twelve she, or he can make their own choice on whether to attend post secondary education
or not. Without grade twelve, the choice is likely to be made for you.
Both of our children finished grade twelve. Our son has been doing graduate work in physics for six years and our daughter
is in another program but both are glad they finished grade twelve.
If a young person has grade twelve she, or he can make their own choice on whether to attend post secondary education
or not. Without grade twelve, the choice is likely to be made for you.
Both of our children finished grade twelve. Our son has been doing graduate work in physics for six years and our daughter
is in another program but both are glad they finished grade twelve.