Christopher Hitchens: Dies
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Oh, when you think for yourself in a religious family, you are a disappointment for sure.
I have always thought for myself and as for Hitchens, what terrible thing did he say? He
merely pointed out that people should live their lives and explore the world around them
with an open mind.
He also cautioned about getting caught up in religious doctrine and the forgiveness and
guilt complexes that accompany them. For one I don't think he said anything that has
not been said before. Is the world not made up of billions of opinions? Oh forgive me
some believe we should all think alike, less God might not love us or something.
I have always thought for myself and as for Hitchens, what terrible thing did he say? He
merely pointed out that people should live their lives and explore the world around them
with an open mind.
He also cautioned about getting caught up in religious doctrine and the forgiveness and
guilt complexes that accompany them. For one I don't think he said anything that has
not been said before. Is the world not made up of billions of opinions? Oh forgive me
some believe we should all think alike, less God might not love us or something.
I'm still good on three of them, I guess, but I'm not done either.
Yikes....oh well.
No I don't realize that, in fact I deny it. Mine is the only standard I'll take seriously. I certainly won't accept being judged by yours, despite your implicit claim that it's god's standard. You're making exactly the argument that Hitchens so sharply criticized, and I vote with him on this one. After decades of thought and study on the matter I am convinced that what you think of as god is a delusion and all the things you derive from that belief have no substance, no value, and no roots in reality. They are false and indefensible conclusions derived from a defective premise. I'll do my own thinking thanks, I will not accept submission to an absolute authority, the offer of certainty, or the gift of salvation that supposedly comes with it. That's the gift not worth having, I see nothing there but a closing of the mind, the end of learning, and an abdication of responsibility.
Ever heard of Godwin's Law? It's a sign that one side of the argument has gone bankrupt.
all, every single person. Every single child of God will be welcomed into his kingdom.
He was one to change his mind about many subjects. One was early in his career when he condemned American interventionism overseas. Then later on in life he defended what he used to condemn. Same with Israel - he was a guy whose words bordered on antisemitism. Then late in life he defended Israel.
The man was exceptionally knowledgeable in many topics. Had an excellent understanding of politics. Funny as hell. But he flip flopped several times and this led to him having many detractors.
Is it "flip flopping" or is it adjusting your opinion to correspond with changing situations or upon getting a clearer view of a situation? You don't improve if you don't change. :smile:
Would you bet on Saddam's chances? :lol:
"Agreeing" might be more the point. Sylvia Browne would beg to differ. According to her those guys just fly along in limbo for eons.
I've broken all but two of them. The majority of the ten commandments are totally useless.
But he did so there ends that. And I do not believe that the sins of Adam / Eve are passed on.
Some detest religion just because of some that condemn others because of their beliefs - I am not implying you did this.
Some use Religion as a box to live inside - Myself i use it as a guide. Now who is right?
God placed us on this Earth to live, love, enjoy, help others, care for the poor and so on.
There are so many differing interpretations that an ordinary person can get confused by another.
And whether Hitchens did indeed enter Heaven, we as Christians have no input on that now do we?
I am Christian - Go by the big 10 - and then it is over to God the Creator if you will.
He was for the Iraq war from the start - He was a left wing socialist that saw it was not viable. When asked about his past beliefs - He compared it to an amputee longing for his limb. Quite forthright and honest answer.
When he ditched socialism many set him aside much like some do with a person who has lost their path or the woeful sinner. He was great as long as they agreed with him - Shallow people I would say, quite shallow.
I found him to be an interesting man, said what he believed and from what i understand was funny as hell and a good person, loved his family.
It is flip flopping. If you read his earlier stuff about, say, USA interventionism over the years, and then see what a big turn around he made you, too, would be convinced it was classic flip flop. Do a Google search on Hitchens flip flops and you will find several links on the subject.
No one holds the same views on every subject their entire life. Changes of opinion are bound to happen.
"flip flopping" has negative conotations for some reason.
Flip flopping would entail going from one position to another and then back to the original. If it is only one way, it would be simply changing the mind.
Far left Wingers get so upset when someone leaves the farm. Thye never forget or forgive having a change in beliefs.