"Here’s an example of the way the House plan would work. California has very strict limits on who can get a permit to carry a concealed weapon, involving extensive background checks by local law enforcement. Utah, on the other hand, is really mellow about the whole thing. You don’t even have to live there to get a Utah permit. Just ask the 215,000 non-Utah folks who’ve gotten one. And, in Florida, “it is so easy that a staffer in one of our offices was able to complete the form in less than 30 minutes,” said Representative Alcee Hastings, a Florida Democrat. Under this bill, California’s strict rules on gun permits are now expanded to include anybody who drives into the state waving a Florida or Utah permission slip.
The bill passed 272 to 154. It’s a law-enforcement nightmare for states that take gun regulation seriously. There’s no national database cops can check if they stop someone who’s carrying a gun with an out-of-state permit. Some state records aren’t available at all."
" “A common-sense solution to adapt to today’s needs,” said Representative Steve Chabot, an Ohio Republican, cheerfully."
Where do you start with a statement like this? The fact that common-sense might dictate the exact opposite outcome of this bill?
And what exactly does he mean by 'today's needs'? I have such a hard time getting my head around that one. Why, I ask, would anyone bother visiting another state if they felt the 'need' to carry a concealed weapon - save for emergency family visits. What about 'today' would make the carrying of a concealed weapon necessary? Is it really that dangerous in the US today that a law such as this is not only necessary but passes so easily? Gaia help us all if such is the case.
" “This bill is about freedom,” said Representative Chris Gibson, a Republican from upstate New York."
"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose" Kris Kristofferson
" “As millions of American families can attest, there is no greater threat to our families than — the ability to protect,” said Representative Renee Ellmers, a Republican of North Carolina, flung into incoherence by the drama of the moment."
"Actually, the evidence suggests very strongly that a gun in the house will most likely be used to take out a relative. And guns in the house are not the subject of this bill anyway, since we’re talking about weapons being carted across state lines. So maybe the danger here is a crazed knife-wielding zombie breaking into the station wagon while the family is stopped for gas on the way to Disneyland.
Anyway, God wants everybody to be armed. “Mr. Speaker, rights do not come from the government. We are, in the words of the Declaration of Independence, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights,” said Representative Marlin Stutzman, an Indiana Republican.
Among these rights are life, liberty and a pistol in the glove compartment."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/o...t-for.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
The bill passed 272 to 154. It’s a law-enforcement nightmare for states that take gun regulation seriously. There’s no national database cops can check if they stop someone who’s carrying a gun with an out-of-state permit. Some state records aren’t available at all."
" “A common-sense solution to adapt to today’s needs,” said Representative Steve Chabot, an Ohio Republican, cheerfully."
Where do you start with a statement like this? The fact that common-sense might dictate the exact opposite outcome of this bill?
And what exactly does he mean by 'today's needs'? I have such a hard time getting my head around that one. Why, I ask, would anyone bother visiting another state if they felt the 'need' to carry a concealed weapon - save for emergency family visits. What about 'today' would make the carrying of a concealed weapon necessary? Is it really that dangerous in the US today that a law such as this is not only necessary but passes so easily? Gaia help us all if such is the case.
" “This bill is about freedom,” said Representative Chris Gibson, a Republican from upstate New York."
"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose" Kris Kristofferson
" “As millions of American families can attest, there is no greater threat to our families than — the ability to protect,” said Representative Renee Ellmers, a Republican of North Carolina, flung into incoherence by the drama of the moment."
"Actually, the evidence suggests very strongly that a gun in the house will most likely be used to take out a relative. And guns in the house are not the subject of this bill anyway, since we’re talking about weapons being carted across state lines. So maybe the danger here is a crazed knife-wielding zombie breaking into the station wagon while the family is stopped for gas on the way to Disneyland.
Anyway, God wants everybody to be armed. “Mr. Speaker, rights do not come from the government. We are, in the words of the Declaration of Independence, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights,” said Representative Marlin Stutzman, an Indiana Republican.
Among these rights are life, liberty and a pistol in the glove compartment."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/o...t-for.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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