Are Mormons Christians?

[wulfie68]

What is sad is that Romney's religious denomination is possibly a bar to his obtaining the nod from the Republicans. The US was founded and prides itself on the ideals of religious freedom and seperation of Church and State. That fundamentalists of any religion have taken such a large degree of control in the process is disheartening. I realize that people elect leaders based on social values as well as economic ones, but if someone espouses similar values, why should it matter what altar he bows before (or if he bows at all)?

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

You might be waiting a long time as thats been a bone of contention among the various sects of Christianity for hundreds of years...

 

[Goober]

Actually, I can understand how the populace could be swayed with the mythology in the Bible, in the era it was first presented to said populace.

If one were to examine the birth of the Mormon Church, the era it was created in, you would think that the people would have been smarter, and less likely to be swayed with such obviously dubious nuttery.

And lets not even get started on the moronic CoS and the nutters that fell for that.

Ah so - Remember the Kool Aid fellow - Mass suicide in South America - A US Cult.

 

[karrie]

Who said straight out "I'm going to create a religion".

My husband's said that before. He's just waiting for the kids to move out so he can open the Royale Church of Looo-oove. I can't possibly convey the tone in which its name gets said, as it requires a whiskey or ten, and a french background, to get it quite right. It's all planned out on cocktail napkins, and if instituted as he plans, would bring about many loud exultations in God's name.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

Well, you're in luck today ol' buddy. It's rooted in standard Roman Catholic dogma called the apostolic succession, a claim that all duly constituted bishops have had the Spirit instilled in them by men authorized to do so by performing the proper rituals, all the way back to Jesus' disciples. The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, traces his succession directly back to the church's founders, Paul and most particularly Peter, the first Bishop of Rome and the nominal rock on which the church is built, so he gets to be first among equals in the crowd of bishops.

Apostolic Succession | Catholic Answers

 

[Goober]

Well, you're in luck today ol' buddy. It's rooted in standard Roman Catholic dogma called the apostolic succession, a claim that all duly constituted bishops have had the Spirit instilled in them by men authorized to do so by performing the proper rituals, all the way back to Jesus' disciples. The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, traces his succession directly back to the church's founders, Paul and most particularly Peter, the first Bishop of Rome and the nominal rock on which the church is built, so he gets to be first among equals in the crowd of bishops.

Apostolic Succession | Catholic Answers

They decided to have the Spirit- Not God, nor Jesus who picked his disciples. So what they created is man made. And as such open to change.

 

[Spade]

They decided to have the Spirit- Not God, nor Jesus who picked his disciples. So what they created is man made. And as such open to change.

All religions are human constructs, except perhaps Woden and Thor.

 

[VanIsle]

Are Mormons Christians?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/professions-faith

Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is running for the Republican Party’s choice for president of USA.

There was a statement made by other Republicans that Mormons are not Christians they are more of an occult.

Are Mormons Christians or not?

What do you think?

Occult???? Do you mean cult??? The two are very different from each other.

 

[Goober]

All religions are human constructs, except perhaps Woden and Thor.

Do you agree with my point or not.

Next the universe has such an order that I do believe in a Creator. To have such order did not happen by chance?????

Until Einsteins "E=MC2" could be proven to be in error. That will send all the Physicists back to the blackboard now won't it. Then oh my what will they think????????????

And what about Loki. He does run rampant does he not??

Loki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Spade]

I agree Mormonism is man made. But, so are all other religions.

 

[taxslave]

Good luck with that one.




My mother was raised Catholic, but I was not. The only "formal" instruction I ever received as a child was briefly in Sunday school, some non-Catholic Christian church but I cannot remember which one. So my impression of Jesus, to this day, is of someone who surrounded himself with all those who were 'cast out' by society at large. The poor, the homeless, the diseased and disabled. Which is why I cannot reconcile any kind of hatred or rejection of anyone who is different then themselves with anyone calling themselves a Christian.

It was the part about having the one true god that got me. I asked for proof, which I didn't think was an unreasonable request but never got an answer.
Then there was one I read but can't remember who the nut was that said" GOd does not hear the prayers of a Jew". Now I confess to never having met god despite some good drugs but I'm fairly certain that Jews would not bother praying if they thought this was true.
I know that many native cultures have more than one god so how can some so called christian call them pagans or heathens?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Occult???? Do you mean cult??? The two are very different from each other.

I don't think so. Given the dictionary definition of the occult as "any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies," and dictionary definitions of cult as "a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies," or "a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc." it seems that any set of religious beliefs could be fairly described as both occult and a cult. It's just that in common usage they have pejorative overtones, they're used by members of one cult to dismiss the beliefs of another as foolish or unreasonable, while of course their own are held to be perfectly sensible, divinely inspired, rooted in sacred texts and profound convictions of certainty, or whatever. I'm reminded of H.L. Mencken's observation that the chief occupation of mankind is believing in the palpably untrue.

With regard to the OP, it seems to me that debating whether or not Mormons are Christians is foolish beyond description. Of course they are. So are Anglicans, Catholics, Lutherans, Calvinists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Mennonites, Hutterites... It's a big tent, plenty of room in it for Mormons, though I think the United Church might be just outside the flap, its doctrine got watered down so much in the unification that you don't really have to believe much of anything to belong.

 

[TenPenny]

Next the universe has such an order that I do believe in a Creator. To have such order did not happen by chance?????

Of course it could.

Don't be so silly.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Next the universe has such an order that I do believe in a Creator. To have such order did not happen by chance?????

You mean YOU don't believe it happened by chance, not that it didn't, or couldn't, you can't possibly know that, but what you believe--or what anyone believes, I don't mean to single you out--really has nothing necessarily to do with what's actually true. That's why we've developed such elaborate, self-correcting procedures for finding things out about the universe. I also think that if you look deeply enough you'll see that things aren't nearly as ordered as they may superficially appear, nor are some things quite as random as they may appear, but to say much more here would be a serious hijack of this thread.

 

[petros]

What part of Christanity does going to colonize and be God of you own planet when you die come from? OT or NT?

 

[Cliffy]

What part of Christanity does going to colonize and be God of you own planet when you die come from? OT or NT?

Well, you know that many early Christian and Jewish writings were left out of the bible. The Book of Moron claims to contain some of them, to complete the bible, sort o speak.

Of course, if you read it, you would know it is the ravings of a fruit loop, but....

Have you ever come across The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ?

 

[Bar Sinister]

Of course they are. Mormon beliefs simply happen to be a bit more ridiculous than those of most other Christians.

 

[petros]

Well, you know that many early Christian and Jewish writings were left out of the bible. The Book of Moron claims to contain some of them, to complete the bible, sort o speak.

Of course, if you read it, you would know it is the ravings of a fruit loop, but....

Where can I get a magic hat to read the gold tablets that hold the truth about God?

 

[petros]

Not even close.

 

[Cliffy]

Where can I get a magic hat to read the gold tablets that hold the truth about God?

You may have to wear the magic underwear too.

 

[Cliffy]

Deja vu