jimmoyer
Posts: 5,038 
Location: Winchester Virginia
Location: Winchester Virginia
February 23rd, 2006, 05:47 PM
i recognize the very real need for humanity to face a major set-back in the near future in order for the errs of today to be fully recognized and overcome.
--------------------Caracal Kid--------------------------
If that isn't tough love, then what love is there
for you? And if that isn't at least a Tough Love
statement, then you are more tired and dis-interested
and care less, as in careless, as in a careless
wisdom loyal to no soul, hatefully repeating a
mantra: We deserve this. We got it coming.
A lot of hateful people are smug on that point.
It's a righteousness more egotistical and smug
than anything else I can imagine.
Sure you're tired. Sure you got a point.
But who the hell are you to say we deserve this ?
You're a good guy, but I find you to be carelessly
righteous.
Yeah we got what's coming to this?
Do you know the rainbow of people who say this?
and, a little side point: Has Caracal Kid ever noticed
the occurrence of HISTORICAL AMNESIA by succeeding
generations dimly viewing the changing fog of history ?
Caracal Kid presumes we'll learn from the holocaust
only to spawn future generations doubting it ever happened,
even speculating it was all some manipulative propaganda. )
i recognize the very real need for humanity to face a major set-back in the near future in order for the errs of today to be fully recognized and overcome.
--------------------Caracal Kid--------------------------
If that isn't tough love, then what love is there
for you? And if that isn't at least a Tough Love
statement, then you are more tired and dis-interested
and care less, as in careless, as in a careless
wisdom loyal to no soul, hatefully repeating a
mantra: We deserve this. We got it coming.
A lot of hateful people are smug on that point.
It's a righteousness more egotistical and smug
than anything else I can imagine.
Sure you're tired. Sure you got a point.
But who the hell are you to say we deserve this ?
You're a good guy, but I find you to be carelessly
righteous.
Yeah we got what's coming to this?
Do you know the rainbow of people who say this?
and, a little side point: Has Caracal Kid ever noticed
the occurrence of HISTORICAL AMNESIA by succeeding
generations dimly viewing the changing fog of history ?
Caracal Kid presumes we'll learn from the holocaust
only to spawn future generations doubting it ever happened,
even speculating it was all some manipulative propaganda. )
Hawkings former plumber
Posts: 10,206
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
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February 23rd, 2006, 05:53 PM
SIX POINT FIVE BILLION SATURDAY, THATS ALOT OF PROTIEN TO FEED OR EAT.
SIX POINT FIVE BILLION SATURDAY, THATS ALOT OF PROTIEN TO FEED OR EAT.
the clan of the claw
Posts: 1,976
February 23rd, 2006, 05:55 PM
no emotions at all. no ego, no righteousness, no love, no hate.
merely the Gaia system and the permutations possible.
for one thing you did get right, is that it is nothing more than modeling for me. I must disconnect myself from the process to analyze the possibilities fairly. In the end, short of total human anhilation, the "sides" which one camps on are all superficial. THey all consist of humans, that progress in parallel and as such if Gaia is to have humanity upon her it does not matter really which "tribe" "wins".
I encourage you, jim, to put your own ego aside.
no emotions at all. no ego, no righteousness, no love, no hate.
merely the Gaia system and the permutations possible.
for one thing you did get right, is that it is nothing more than modeling for me. I must disconnect myself from the process to analyze the possibilities fairly. In the end, short of total human anhilation, the "sides" which one camps on are all superficial. THey all consist of humans, that progress in parallel and as such if Gaia is to have humanity upon her it does not matter really which "tribe" "wins".
I encourage you, jim, to put your own ego aside.
jimmoyer
Posts: 5,038
Location: Winchester Virginia
Location: Winchester Virginia
February 24th, 2006, 02:45 PM
no emotions at all. no ego, no righteousness, no love, no hate.
merely the Gaia system and the permutations possible.
for one thing you did get right, is that it is nothing more than modeling for me. I must disconnect myself from the process to analyze the possibilities fairly. In the end, short of total human anhilation, the "sides" which one camps on are all superficial. THey all consist of humans, that progress in parallel and as such if Gaia is to have humanity upon her it does not matter really which "tribe" "wins".
----------------------------Caracal kid------------------------
Ah, my little voyeur God, wisely disengaged
from the folly below, aware that all sides are
morally equal, and sinfully equal. So it matters little
which side, or what tribe survives. And whoever
gets hurt, well, that's understandable too.
It's just all part of the process.
And so little voyuer Gods won't lift a pinky to
stop any harm from either tribe, accepting its own
powerlessness, its own futility, the hallmark of
the highest wisdom Gaia can teach us all.
It won't rage away at the night.
It will sit in the night, blinking its eyes occasionally
like a cartoon Homer Simpson.
Perhaps this "attachment" to "dis-attachment"
is an illusion too, no better than the illusions of
combatants.
And so whether Iran strokes it nice new big dick
or whether someone cuts that member off, it little
matters.
Only the voyeur Gods will blink occasionally.
Mute, dispassionate, ego-less, on a cloud above.
Perhaps the vicarious life is as vacant as all the
sound and fury signifying nothing ?
Perhaps reprehensible conclusions spring from this
attitude such as:
1. If you run a race and you lose, why run in the race ?
2. If winning a race is deemed ultimately impossible
why are people so brainwashed to even try?
3. All the hypocrisy and sin in the world means everyone
deserves what's coming at them.
4. If your neighbor is hypocritical, why help them?
5. If your enemy is hypocritical, why bother stopping
them ?
6. If you are hypocritical why try at all ?
Perhaps the depth of disattachment is strangely
enough a very teleological tautology, a philosophy
that presumes that life has a goal but paradoxically
that goal is never achieveable.
Why try, if all is folly ?
Will it matter 1000 years from now ?
Does this philosophy of dis-attachment know that it
is too exclusionary to accept other truths ?
no emotions at all. no ego, no righteousness, no love, no hate.
merely the Gaia system and the permutations possible.
for one thing you did get right, is that it is nothing more than modeling for me. I must disconnect myself from the process to analyze the possibilities fairly. In the end, short of total human anhilation, the "sides" which one camps on are all superficial. THey all consist of humans, that progress in parallel and as such if Gaia is to have humanity upon her it does not matter really which "tribe" "wins".
----------------------------Caracal kid------------------------
Ah, my little voyeur God, wisely disengaged
from the folly below, aware that all sides are
morally equal, and sinfully equal. So it matters little
which side, or what tribe survives. And whoever
gets hurt, well, that's understandable too.
It's just all part of the process.
And so little voyuer Gods won't lift a pinky to
stop any harm from either tribe, accepting its own
powerlessness, its own futility, the hallmark of
the highest wisdom Gaia can teach us all.
It won't rage away at the night.
It will sit in the night, blinking its eyes occasionally
like a cartoon Homer Simpson.
Perhaps this "attachment" to "dis-attachment"
is an illusion too, no better than the illusions of
combatants.
And so whether Iran strokes it nice new big dick
or whether someone cuts that member off, it little
matters.
Only the voyeur Gods will blink occasionally.
Mute, dispassionate, ego-less, on a cloud above.
Perhaps the vicarious life is as vacant as all the
sound and fury signifying nothing ?
Perhaps reprehensible conclusions spring from this
attitude such as:
1. If you run a race and you lose, why run in the race ?
2. If winning a race is deemed ultimately impossible
why are people so brainwashed to even try?
3. All the hypocrisy and sin in the world means everyone
deserves what's coming at them.
4. If your neighbor is hypocritical, why help them?
5. If your enemy is hypocritical, why bother stopping
them ?
6. If you are hypocritical why try at all ?
Perhaps the depth of disattachment is strangely
enough a very teleological tautology, a philosophy
that presumes that life has a goal but paradoxically
that goal is never achieveable.
Why try, if all is folly ?
Will it matter 1000 years from now ?
Does this philosophy of dis-attachment know that it
is too exclusionary to accept other truths ?
jimmoyer
Posts: 5,038
Location: Winchester Virginia
Location: Winchester Virginia
February 25th, 2006, 12:20 PM
1. If you run a race and you lose, why run in the race ?
2. If winning a race is deemed ultimately impossible
why are people so brainwashed to even try?
3. All the hypocrisy and sin in the world means everyone
deserves what's coming at them.
4. If your neighbor is hypocritical, why help them?
5. If your enemy is hypocritical, why bother stopping
them ?
6. If you are hypocritical why try at all ?
Perhaps the depth of disattachment is strangely
enough a very teleological tautology, a philosophy
that presumes that life has a goal but paradoxically
that goal is never achieveable.
Why try, if all is folly ?
Will it matter 1000 years from now ?
Does this philosophy of dis-attachment know that it
is too exclusionary to accept other truths ?
1. If you run a race and you lose, why run in the race ?
2. If winning a race is deemed ultimately impossible
why are people so brainwashed to even try?
3. All the hypocrisy and sin in the world means everyone
deserves what's coming at them.
4. If your neighbor is hypocritical, why help them?
5. If your enemy is hypocritical, why bother stopping
them ?
6. If you are hypocritical why try at all ?
Perhaps the depth of disattachment is strangely
enough a very teleological tautology, a philosophy
that presumes that life has a goal but paradoxically
that goal is never achieveable.
Why try, if all is folly ?
Will it matter 1000 years from now ?
Does this philosophy of dis-attachment know that it
is too exclusionary to accept other truths ?
