Member
Posts: 58 
Location: Red Deer Alberta
Location: Red Deer Alberta
May 28th, 2004, 09:23 AM
My $0.02:
I think filesharing should be illegal. It gives pirates more freedoms to infringe on the rights owned by music companies. The music and movie industries are big to our economy here in North America and being able to just give and take what you want is not right. I have to admit thoough guys, that I did use kazaa when my son put it on my computer. I did not like it because of the advertising. THAT IS WRONG! Kazaa is putting advertising on and making money off of the work of artists and infringing on the copyrights of music industry.
The average Joe Blow Canadian probably is not aware of how much this takes from our economy. It is not just American companies that pay, it is the Canadian subsidiaries that also have to cut the workforce to help cope with the loss of profits because of this newwave filesharing craze.
My $0.02:
I think filesharing should be illegal. It gives pirates more freedoms to infringe on the rights owned by music companies. The music and movie industries are big to our economy here in North America and being able to just give and take what you want is not right. I have to admit thoough guys, that I did use kazaa when my son put it on my computer. I did not like it because of the advertising. THAT IS WRONG! Kazaa is putting advertising on and making money off of the work of artists and infringing on the copyrights of music industry.
The average Joe Blow Canadian probably is not aware of how much this takes from our economy. It is not just American companies that pay, it is the Canadian subsidiaries that also have to cut the workforce to help cope with the loss of profits because of this newwave filesharing craze.
Genius
Posts: 783
May 28th, 2004, 09:24 PM
I do not think by any means that file sharing is illegal. What should be illegal is the presumed value that stars such as Brittney Spears seems to hold. I dont know how it is the economy has assigned such a value to an economic activity so devoid of merit. I would much rather pay for some live music down here in Mexico by some random mariachi singing songs full of meaning than ever even think on indulging in listening to such empty garbage as is found performed by many many individuals. What should be illegal is to allow our future generations to place such high value on "being cool" and even worse - on somebody telling them how to "be cool."
I am sorry to say, the problem is not file sharing, it is that many people really want these files. That is the real problem. It is sad that so much of the wealth of the US is concentrated on a group so small. I dont mean to critisize the US but it seems to me that if all the money spent in the immoral salaries of these individuals was spent on solving the problems that have become so prevalent in the USA lately (education/welfare/etc...) the USA could once again become a place an educated individual would want to live in. Imagine if all the economic activity spent sueing individuals and devising ne ways to kepp the rich rich was spent in educating your young? What could the USA accomplish?
I do not think by any means that file sharing is illegal. What should be illegal is the presumed value that stars such as Brittney Spears seems to hold. I dont know how it is the economy has assigned such a value to an economic activity so devoid of merit. I would much rather pay for some live music down here in Mexico by some random mariachi singing songs full of meaning than ever even think on indulging in listening to such empty garbage as is found performed by many many individuals. What should be illegal is to allow our future generations to place such high value on "being cool" and even worse - on somebody telling them how to "be cool."
I am sorry to say, the problem is not file sharing, it is that many people really want these files. That is the real problem. It is sad that so much of the wealth of the US is concentrated on a group so small. I dont mean to critisize the US but it seems to me that if all the money spent in the immoral salaries of these individuals was spent on solving the problems that have become so prevalent in the USA lately (education/welfare/etc...) the USA could once again become a place an educated individual would want to live in. Imagine if all the economic activity spent sueing individuals and devising ne ways to kepp the rich rich was spent in educating your young? What could the USA accomplish?
Clever Clogs
Posts: 548
Location: Kamloops, BC
Location: Kamloops, BC
May 28th, 2004, 09:36 PM
So T.Rex in your post a clear point you have there is you think music should be illegal because of programs like Kazaa that make money from the Ads within the programs themselves? I understand how much money the industry loses from downloaded media but its a small chunk of the big picture, they make billions.. Im not endorsing people to go wildly downloading anything they want, if its good I buy it, if its not its gone. It's that simple.
But as for the Ads, how do you think programmers who make FREE software get paid? One of two ways.
1) User donations -- yeah not something to rely on very much at all (trust me I make free software lol).
2) Banner Ads -- Although not very lucrative, if there are enough users it more than covers the cost of hosting the website so its not an out of pocket expense.
Most of use open source programmers and freeware programmers don't program because we want to 'get rich' we program to contribute to the online communities we 'live' in.
For most of us making a program ShareWare and making people register it does not appeal to us because we believe in the freedom and free-ness of the Internet and all it entails.
So T.Rex in your post a clear point you have there is you think music should be illegal because of programs like Kazaa that make money from the Ads within the programs themselves? I understand how much money the industry loses from downloaded media but its a small chunk of the big picture, they make billions.. Im not endorsing people to go wildly downloading anything they want, if its good I buy it, if its not its gone. It's that simple.
But as for the Ads, how do you think programmers who make FREE software get paid? One of two ways.
1) User donations -- yeah not something to rely on very much at all (trust me I make free software lol).
2) Banner Ads -- Although not very lucrative, if there are enough users it more than covers the cost of hosting the website so its not an out of pocket expense.
Most of use open source programmers and freeware programmers don't program because we want to 'get rich' we program to contribute to the online communities we 'live' in.
For most of us making a program ShareWare and making people register it does not appeal to us because we believe in the freedom and free-ness of the Internet and all it entails.
May 29th, 2004, 03:36 PM
I personally like programs like emule. It's opensource and there's a huge community involved with the whoe project. They do not profit off of the software. I think they might receive donations, but as Shmad said, that's nothing.
Software becomes great when there's a massive community flourishing around it. People help each other out and bugs are usually fixed rapidly.
I personally like programs like emule. It's opensource and there's a huge community involved with the whoe project. They do not profit off of the software. I think they might receive donations, but as Shmad said, that's nothing.
Software becomes great when there's a massive community flourishing around it. People help each other out and bugs are usually fixed rapidly.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
June 1st, 2004, 01:16 PM
You thing is positive, all parties wish to bring back the youth into politics. File sharing, is an issue directly connected to youth. I'm sure their advisors made sure they are aware of this issue, and I hope they will address it.
You thing is positive, all parties wish to bring back the youth into politics. File sharing, is an issue directly connected to youth. I'm sure their advisors made sure they are aware of this issue, and I hope they will address it.
Genius
Posts: 783
June 1st, 2004, 04:02 PM
It is rather better to legalise file sharing rather than trying to stop pirates... It's a lot more cost effective... How do you think you'll stop file sharing? It 's not just on the net where file sharing happens... Artists still make money because of conservative people who think file sharing is wrong..
I never heard of a musician go bankrupt because of file sharing yet... I do not think that it will happen either,,, Rather than spending billions of $$$ it's rather easier for them to spend millions i would guess..
It is rather better to legalise file sharing rather than trying to stop pirates... It's a lot more cost effective... How do you think you'll stop file sharing? It 's not just on the net where file sharing happens... Artists still make money because of conservative people who think file sharing is wrong..
I never heard of a musician go bankrupt because of file sharing yet... I do not think that it will happen either,,, Rather than spending billions of $$$ it's rather easier for them to spend millions i would guess..
