Death knell for AGW

L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

More -- is coming out about --. What an anal sphincter he is. I'm sure there's more AGW stuff about to hit the fan, but Al and David ain't sayin' nothin'.

And I am sure if Rajendra Pachauri, Suzuki, and Gore met you, they'd think they had met a Neanderthal. So? lol
 
Walter
#602
Climategate gets -- all the time.
 
Avro
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#603
Why climate gate is bogus and based on lies.

Writing for the UK's Gaurdian news today, Fred Pearce has a very in-depth analysis of how the --
Pearce explains that,
"Almost all the media and political discussion about the hacked climate emails has been based on brief soundbites publicised by professional sceptics and their blogs. In many cases, these have been taken out of context and twisted to mean something they were never intended to."
Couldn't have said it better myself. The so-called 'climategate' has been hyped by an over-the-top right-wing press and an over-excited gang of bloggers who use everything other than actual scientific research to prove their point.

What keeps getting and better is the desperate denier cabal.
 
Walter
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Even the -- know there is no AGW.
 
Walter
#605
Delingpole is a great --.
 
Avro
#606
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Even the -- know there is no AGW.

Yep, they are having cold weather right now in Florida.
 
Avro
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#607
Plimer gets owned by a journalist.

YouTube - George Monbiot debates Ian Plimer part 3



Imagine what a scientist could do.
 
Tonington
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#608
I have to say, I prefer this twitter style of spamming other peoples opinions by Walter. I'd still prefer to hear him actually show that his brain has consolidated the information, and attempt to show some reasoning and use of logic, at least discuss the content.

But if he's not going to do that, it's far easier on the eyes to read his tweets, than it is to wade through the muck in his cut and paste jobs.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I have to say, I prefer this twitter style of spamming other peoples opinions by Walter. I'd still prefer to hear him actually show that his brain has consolidated the information, and attempt to show some reasoning and use of logic, at least discuss the content.

But if he's not going to do that, it's far easier on the eyes to read his tweets, than it is to wade through the muck in his cut and paste jobs.

lol Ditto.
 
AnnaG
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#610
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Even the -- know there is no AGW.

Perhaps the corals don't like the temperature changes. Gee, I wonder what causes temperature changes and other weather anomalies, couldn't be climate change, could it? Corals in the Maldives, the Seychelles, and Jamaica seem to be suffering from warmer temperatures, but I guess that means nothing to you. Perhaps you should warm up your mind a little, it seems to be getting numb.
Oh, but look, the article did mention Florida's coral reefs are not the same as they used to be and are suffering from higher temps than normal, too.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

Perhaps the corals don't like the temperature changes. Gee, I wonder what causes temperature changes and other weather anomalies, couldn't be climate change, could it? Corals in the Maldives, the Seychelles, and Jamaica seem to be suffering from warmer temperatures, but I guess that means nothing to you. Perhaps you should warm up your mind a little, it seems to be getting numb.
Oh, but look, the article did mention Florida's coral reefs are not the same as they used to be and are suffering from higher temps than normal, too.

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"The result is known as coral bleaching, which some scientists believe is a result of global warming. "

From the article. Just curious as to the effect of warming and coral reefs. Aren't they tropical? The water around Florida I am sure is a lot cooler than the South Pacific. Why aren't all those reefs gone completely IF climate change i.e warming, is a factor?
 
Tonington
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Not all corals have the same thermal tolerance.
 
pgs
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#613
Not all kool-aid tastes the same either.
but be my guest ,keep drinking it.
 
ironsides
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#614
Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Yep, they are having cold weather right now in Florida.



During the cold weather snap we had here in Florida last week, the water temperature never dropped below 71-72F, in the summer it goes up to about 85-88. Not sure if that is enough changed to effect the coral. Boats I know destroy them as well as star fish and other creatures.
 
Walter
#615
Another post for the Climategate deniers.
 
Avro
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#616
Umm, when are you ever gonna answer a rebuttle to one of your spams Walt?

You don't read them do you?
 
AnnaG
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#617
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

"The result is known as coral bleaching, which some scientists believe is a result of global warming. "

From the article. Just curious as to the effect of warming and coral reefs. Aren't they tropical? The water around Florida I am sure is a lot cooler than the South Pacific. Why aren't all those reefs gone completely IF climate change i.e warming, is a factor?

For about the 9 millionth time: critters have certain temperature ranges they can survive in. The corals around Florida (among many others) have been getting warmed and cooled past their tolerable temp range. They are also very sensitive to the pH of the water in their habitat.
BTW, corals are not limited to tropical waters. --
 
AnnaG
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#618
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Another post for the Climategate deniers.

"Server not found". That's kind of what I imagine a brain scan on you would result in.
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

"Server not found". That's kind of what I imagine a brain scan on you would result in.



Anna is in white.
 
Walter
#620
Sorry about #615; this link works. Another post for the Climategate deniers.
 
Walter
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Lawrence Solomon: IPCC faces another desertion – its own past chair!
February 08, 2010,
The past chairman of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has joined the growing list of IPCC critics. According to the Sunday Telegraph, Rajendra Pachauri, the disgraced current IPCC chair, now faces criticism from his immediate predecessor, Robert Watson. The Telegraph reports that Watson “stressed that the chairman must take responsibility for correcting errors.” In another indication that Watson is taking pains to distance himself from the organization he once headed, the Sunday Times, in a story entitled Top British scientist says UN panel is losing credibility, reports that Watson warned the IPCC that it must tackle its blunders.
Watson’s comments come on the heels of another glaring embarrassment to come out of the IPCC, this time a claim that global warming could cut crop production in north Africa by up to 50% by 2020. “Any such projection should be based on peer-reviewed literature from computer modelling of how agricultural yields would respond to climate change,” Watson stated. “I can see no such data supporting the IPCC report.”
In this latest high-profile IPCC gaffe, which has been repeated around the world, including by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, the IPCC seems to have relied on a 2003 report from a Winnipeg-based think tank called the International Institute for Sustainable Development. The report, which was not peer-reviewed, in turn seems to have relied on submissions to the UN by civil servants from Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco, which also appear not to have been peer-reviewed.
Apart from his post as past IPCC chair, Watson is also the UK’s highest level environmental scientist, as Chief Scientist at the UK’s environment ministry. Prior to his current position, which he assumed in 2007, Watson was Chair of Environmental Science and Science Director of the Tyndall Centre at the University of East Anglia, the same university caught up in the Climategate scandal.
Watson’s new-found scepticism of the science being produced by the IPCC represents an ironic reversal. In 2002, he remarked that "The only person who doesn't believe the science is President Bush."
 
AnnaG
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#622
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Sorry about #615; this link works. Another post for the Climategate deniers.

Opinions are rampant and myriad. So what?
The facts remain; the oceans are rising millimeter by millimeter, they are becoming acidic, the mean average temperature of them is rising, etc.
 
Slim Chance
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That cycle has bee occurring for millennia
 
AnnaG
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#624
Quote: Originally Posted by Slim ChanceView Post

That cycle has bee occurring for millennia

No shyte, Sherlock. This is the first time the cycle has been held for this long in a warm period, though.
And warming doesn't account for the acidification of the oceans; CO2 does. Warming doesn't account for the ozone layer being depleted; human activity does. Warming doesn't account for the hundreds of thousands of square miles of garbage in the oceans; human activity does.
 
Walter
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#625
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

No shyte, Sherlock. This is the first time the cycle has been held for this long in a warm period, though.
And warming doesn't account for the acidification of the oceans; CO2 does. Warming doesn't account for the ozone layer being depleted; human activity does. Warming doesn't account for the hundreds of thousands of square miles of garbage in the oceans; human activity does.

This thread is about AGW, not ocean acidification or ozone or garbage. Stick to the issue .
 
AnnaG
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#626
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

This thread is about AGW, not ocean acidification or ozone or garbage. Stick to the issue .

Why? You don't. Someone else's opinion on whether there is warming or not has little to do with whether GW was caused by humans, nature, or a combination of the two. BTW, Ozone layer has a LOT to do with GW and we definitely did cause a depletion of that.
Go back to school and learn a bit about what you babble about. It might help you from looking so much like a fool. Just a suggestion.
 
Slim Chance
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

No shyte, Sherlock. This is the first time the cycle has been held for this long in a warm period, though.


The "first"the cycle was held this long? When did the second longest occur?
 
AnnaG
#628
Look for yourself:
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Slim Chance
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Interesting document, but it doesn't answer my question
 
AnnaG
#630
Quote: Originally Posted by Slim ChanceView Post

Interesting document, but it doesn't answer my question

You missed the pretty pictures? I thought they were quite evident.
 

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