100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering


Danbones
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100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering


"The adjustments being correlate almost perfectly with atmospheric CO2. NOAA is adjusting the data to match global warming theory. This is known as PBEM (Policy Based Evidence Making.)"
100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog (external - login to view)

I won't C and P the whole article, but it clearly shows we are being hosed.
goes with the jail sentence for that other global warming guy
 
pgs
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I don't think Mentalfloss wants to agree with this .
 
captain morgan
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Looks like the NOAA has taken a page outta East Anglia U's playbook
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Looks like the NOAA has taken a page outta East Anglia U's playbook

The questions are - NOAA and NASA scientists ARE complaining that their research is being distorted and/or misinterpreted. But the heads of these agencies continue following their plan of attack. And we're even led to believe that if the American Horticulturist Association supports their claims that it MUST be true.

At one time it was the job of the media to protect the citizens from these sorts of Hoaxes. Now they are the propaganda arm of the socialist party.

I was shown a picture of a ISIS member holding the severed head of a Christian. Beside it was a picture of this same man in Greece as he was being processed to come to America as a "refugee". The DHS has NO idea where this man is in this country now.

And these same "refugees" are now pouring out of America and into Canada via back roads that can't be protected by the rather inadequate Canadian border guards.

Perhaps we should start questioning how this is happening?
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

The questions are - NOAA and NASA scientists ARE complaining that their research is being distorted and/or misinterpreted. But the heads of these agencies continue following their plan of attack. And we're even led to believe that if the American Horticulturist Association supports their claims that it MUST be true.

At one time it was the job of the media to protect the citizens from these sorts of Hoaxes. Now they are the propaganda arm of the socialist party.

I was shown a picture of a ISIS member holding the severed head of a Christian. Beside it was a picture of this same man in Greece as he was being processed to come to America as a "refugee". The DHS has NO idea where this man is in this country now.

And these same "refugees" are now pouring out of America and into Canada via back roads that can't be protected by the rather inadequate Canadian border guards.

Perhaps we should start questioning how this is happening?

Perhaps you should probably stop reading fake news.
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

Perhaps you should probably stop reading fake news.

Another poster who, frightened by the real news, simply denies it.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering


"The adjustments being correlate almost perfectly with atmospheric CO2. NOAA is adjusting the data to match global warming theory. This is known as PBEM (Policy Based Evidence Making.)"
100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog (external - login to view)

I won't C and P the whole article, but it clearly shows we are being hosed.
goes with the jail sentence for that other global warming guy

All this clearly shows is that like your love for Rassmusen, you tend to seek out alternative websites from which to snatch your news, DB. Credibility, man........show some. Okay.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Looks like the NOAA has taken a page outta East Anglia U's playbook

Geez, Cap........consider the source. NOAA has nothing to gain by skewing data. Take a look at some of the other articles on that site - it's barely a step up from the National Enquirer, fps.

Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Another poster who, frightened by the real news, simply denies it.

Sleep, Wake..............sleep.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Perhaps we should start questioning how this is happening?

It's may have something to do with the fluoride in you drinking water. Were you given Ritalin when in school?
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Another poster who, frightened by the real news, simply denies it.

No - I simply actually check more than one news source instead of one that justifies my own prejudices. You should try it sometime.
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

All this clearly shows is that like your love for Rassmusen, you tend to seek out alternative websites from which to snatch your news, DB. Credibility, man........show some. Okay.



Geez, Cap........consider the source. NOAA has nothing to gain by skewing data. Take a look at some of the other articles on that site - it's barely a step up from the National Enquirer, fps.



Sleep, Wake..............sleep.

Anyone else notice that the true believers simply de3ny anything that doesn't fit their political stance?

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The world is too complicated to be understood even by the highest level scientists but we're being inundated by claims from high school students. Go home and get your spanking.
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Anyone else notice that the true believers simply de3ny anything that doesn't fit their political stance?

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I notice that you do not have the integrity to post accepted credible news sources for to bolster your claims.

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The world is too complicated to be understood even by the highest level scientists but we're being inundated by claims from high school students. Go home and get your spanking.

Said by an obvious high school student.........or someone who never made it past grade 8.

Look, the climate is changing. PERIOD. I don't buy all the claims that it is man-made as there have been so many climatic events over the millennia brought on by numerous different events, but denying that changes are affecting the Earth is infantile.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Looks like the NOAA has taken a page outta East Anglia U's playbook

As always
 
Curious Cdn
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100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering

That sure explains why it hit 17.5°C on Feb.23rd, here today.The NOAA tampered with our thermometers.

If Breitbart sez it's true, it must be true. Everything Else is FAKE NEWS!!

Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

I notice that you do not have the integrity to post accepted credible news sources for to bolster your claims.

Said by an obvious high school student.........or someone who never made it past grade 8.

Look, the climate is changing. PERIOD. I don't buy all the claims that it is man-made as there have been so many climatic events over the millennia brought on by numerous different events, but denying that changes are affecting the Earth is infantile.

It's been warming for 15,000 years, steadily, which is why there isn't a kilometer or two of ice on top of your head.
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by MowichView Post

I notice that you do not have the integrity to post accepted credible news sources for to bolster your claims.

Said by an obvious high school student.........or someone who never made it past grade 8.

Look, the climate is changing. PERIOD. I don't buy all the claims that it is man-made as there have been so many climatic events over the millennia brought on by numerous different events, but denying that changes are affecting the Earth is infantile.

Apparently the scientists stating these things and their credentials isn't enough for you. You want it to come from NASA or NOAA.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering

That sure explains why it hit 17.5°C on Feb.23rd, here today.The NOAA tampered with our thermometers.

If Breitbart sez it's true, it must be true. Everything Else is FAKE NEWS!!



It's been warming for 15,000 years, steadily, which is why there isn't a kilometer or two of ice on top of your head.

I was questioning before why people would believe that we had AGW when the warming started in 1886 and man didn't really start generating large amounts of CO2 until the later half of WW II.

If you look at a global CO2 chart you can see that the growth in CO2 since circa 1960 is essentially linear. But the global use of fossil fuels grew exponentially.

So you have to wonder what the hell is going on.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Apparently the scientists stating these things and their credentials isn't enough for you. You want it to come from NASA or NOAA.

The Climate Catastrophe - A Spectroscopic Artifact (external - login to view)

The Four Known Scientific Ways Carbon Dioxide Cools Earth's Climate - Principia Scientific International (external - login to view)


I was questioning before why people would believe that we had AGW when the warming started in 1886 and man didn't really start generating large amounts of CO2 until the later half of WW II.

If you look at a global CO2 chart you can see that the growth in CO2 since circa 1960 is essentially linear. But the global use of fossil fuels grew exponentially.

So you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

Maybe, the graph is an "alternate fact" graph.


Where did it come from, anyway?
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Maybe, the graph is an "alternate fact" graph.


Where did it come from, anyway?

I'm sure it is an "alternate fact" since it came from NOAA. And it would appear that you are an alternate fact as well since you couldn't so a simple search and find it. If you don't have the capacity to do that what makes you think that you have the capability of making one single comment that doesn't look like it came from a 12 year old?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

I'm sure it is an "alternate fact" since it came from NOAA. And it would appear that you are an alternate fact as well since you couldn't so a simple search and find it. If you don't have the capacity to do that what makes you think that you have the capability of making one single comment that doesn't look like it came from a 12 year old?

Yet again, here's the Alt-Reich good 'ole boys in another idiotic anti-science circle jerk and here you are calling ME a twelve year old?

You are one of the most ignorant, idiotic human beings walking the planet.
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Apparently the scientists stating these things and their credentials isn't enough for you. You want it to come from NASA or NOAA.

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The Four Known Scientific Ways Carbon Dioxide Cools Earth's Climate - Principia Scientific International (external - login to view)


I was questioning before why people would believe that we had AGW when the warming started in 1886 and man didn't really start generating large amounts of CO2 until the later half of WW II.

If you look at a global CO2 chart you can see that the growth in CO2 since circa 1960 is essentially linear. But the global use of fossil fuels grew exponentially.

So you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

Yes, I've seen pseudoscientific garbage like this before. The trick is to present an argument filled with mathematical formulas that the average person cannot understand and then claim that they support your position. Of course, such a technique ignores much stronger facts that would cut your position to shreds. It is an old technique known in scholarly circles as the "bullschitt baffles brains" argument.

As for global warming, more than simple CO2 production is responsible. A fact that is incredibly important, but is generally ignored is the elimination of much of the world's forested areas during the 20th Century. These were replaced by cropland which absorb a good deal less CO2 than woodland. Still another factor is the enormous increase in livestock in the last 150 years. Farm animals produce a great deal of methane, a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. And finally in 1900 the world population was only one-fifth of what it is now. That rapid increase has resulted in an enormous increase in the production of greenhouse gases of all types.
 
Cliffy
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Damn cow farts. They will be the death of us.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Damn cow farts. They will be the death of us.

Stop putting your head in there, then.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

It's been warming for 15,000 years, steadily, which is why there isn't a kilometer or two of ice on top of your head.

No it has not been warming steadily for 15,000 years. It's been cooling steadily.

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Damn cow farts. They will be the death of us.

Your lifestyle is going to kill you. Without intervention and bypass surgery you would have died a long time ago.
 
Danbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Stop putting your head in there, then.

he can't back up till you move yours



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them damned Minoans and their damned factories
geez....
 
EagleSmack
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Congress Investigates Fraudulent Science Used by NOAA to Push UN Global Warming Treaty

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Wake
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I would love to see a good paper written on the methodology used to measure the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere over the last couple hundred years. There is likely to be a large offset of chemical analysis and more modern electronic means.

I designed and programmed a poison gas detector because too many soldiers were being injured by those "non-existent" WMD in Iraq. In the process of programming this thing I simply could NOT get it to operate properly. After working on it for days it finally came to me in a flash that the mathematics used by the physicists GREATLY overestimated the difference between the electronic version and the actual chemical analysis at low levels. Correcting it to my own calculations and it matched the actual values in the test chamber exactly.

So there possibly could be a large error between previously measured values by one method and the change of methods of measurement over the last couple of centuries.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by WakeView Post

Apparently the scientists stating these things and their credentials isn't enough for you. You want it to come from NASA or NOAA.

The Climate Catastrophe - A Spectroscopic Artifact (external - login to view)

The Four Known Scientific Ways Carbon Dioxide Cools Earth's Climate - Principia Scientific International (external - login to view)


I was questioning before why people would believe that we had AGW when the warming started in 1886 and man didn't really start generating large amounts of CO2 until the later half of WW II.

If you look at a global CO2 chart you can see that the growth in CO2 since circa 1960 is essentially linear. But the global use of fossil fuels grew exponentially.

So you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

The short answer would be "there are countervailing mechanisms in the ecosystem that cause the increase in net CO2 to be less than the amount of CO2 generated."

The even shorter answer would be "plants."

Me, I figure that since the most important greenhouse gas is water, what we really need is a whole bunch of dehumidifiers working 24/7. That'll fix it. Well, that and cowfart capture bags.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

No it has not been warming steadily for 15,000 years. It's been cooling steadily.

Well, that would explain why those continental glaciers in Eurasia and North America kept on advancing, since then.

My advice to you is: Don't try to judge whether the ice advance has peaked or not by looking out you kitchen window in Saskatchewan in late February. It skews your data, a bit and the cabin fever affects your perception of it, a lot.
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

he can't back up till you move yours



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them damned Minoans and their damned factories
geez....

You do realize that Greenland is melting don't you?

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pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

You do realize that Greenland is melting don't you?

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Is the ocean getting deeper yet ? I hear it is going to and Vanatu is going down down down , has it happened yet ? Good get back to me when it does .
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Is the ocean getting deeper yet ? I hear it is going to and Vanatu is going down down down , has it happened yet ? Good get back to me when it does .

Yes. Yes, it is. The Maldives are "sinking" fast. Wait until half of Florida is gone at the end of the century.
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

You do realize that Greenland is melting don't you?

Greenland Is Melting - The New Yorker (external - login to view)

You do realize it was covered by glaciers in the little ice age only some 400 years ago don't you? Or are you one of those who actually believe that it was named "Greenland" as a sales ploy to cause more Vikings to move there?

As the glaciers melt what are they finding? The remains of forests and farms from Viking settlers.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Yes. Yes, it is. The Maldives are "sinking" fast. Wait until half of Florida is gone at the end of the century.

Are you aware that the Maldives are a string of Islands? That the majority of them are less than 3 feet above normal high tide? That the composition of these islands are the tops of a small undersea mountain range and are composed of almost entirely soil that is washed away in bad weather? That 9 months out of the year it rains over half of each month and that the average rainfall per month is over 10"? That these SAME conditions are what recently caused the horrendous flooding problems in California?

What is the proof that there is ocean rise? "When I was a child I used to play soccer on a beach that is now a deep lagoon". Don't look now but that doesn't mean a thing about sea level rise and means that the rains on the soft land and the occasional storm cuts away land areas.

On the other side of the globe the Solomon Islands are the same sort of island chain and they have gained land area.
 
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