Do you think Ignatieff can lead the Liberals to power?

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Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff is expected to be unanimously endorsed as the party's interim leader Wednesday at the party's caucus meeting, at which the fate of the coalition with the NDP will be the top issue.

Ignatieff replaces leader Stéphane Dion, who this week said he would move up his departure date, originally scheduled for May, when the party was to pick his replacement at a leadership convention.

But Liberal MP Bob Rae's decision on Tuesday to bow out of the race left Ignatieff uncontested for the party leadership.

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Colpy

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I think he has a hell of a lot better chance than Dion, and a somewhat better chance than Rae had........as to whether or not he deserves power....decision reserved, for the time being.

He's a Liberal, which is a big strike against him, IMHO.

Let's see how he handles the coalition issue....
 

mit

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I think Harper's shine was starting to come off - His arrogance in the recent fiscal update did turn off a few folks - Hopefully Mr Ignatief can temper his own arrogance - The Libs actually have some pretty good team members - If they can get their fundraising in order - reach out to the grass roots - have them sanction Ignatieff's appointment then they can sweep this episode in their history under the rug and move forward - They need to revamp the whole party - I doubt they will be able to do it in time for Jan 27 so parliament will survive - Spring 2010 after the Olympics and record budget deficits - you might see a Liberal PM again to clean up Harper and Mr Flatulence's mess.
 

Colpy

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Well, from the scuttlebutt I'm hearing, and the commentary on the CBC, Mr.Ignatieff is all for a Coalition......with the Conservatives.

Heh Heh

Say Good night, Jack and Gilles.
 

mt_pockets1000

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That's right Colpy. He's extending an olive branch. With a warning. Either Harper agrees to work together with Ignatieff to govern the country or it's back to bringing down the Conservatives with a non-confidence vote. How can Harper refuse without tipping his hand about his real goal...that is to govern with impunity without regard for his minority status or the people of Canada.
 

mt_pockets1000

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Michael Ignatieff to Stephen Harper: change your divisive, ruthlessly partisan ways or we’ll bring you down.

Atta boy Iggy. Throw down the gauntlet.
 

#juan

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Do you think Ignatieff can lead the Liberals to power?

I don't think there is any doubt. Ignatieff is better educated, better equipped, and better suited for Canadian federal politics than anyone on the federal scene. Here are some of his credentials:

Photo: © Sheppard Ferguson
Biography

Michael Ignatieff was born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada on 12 May 1947, the son of a Russian émigré father and a Canadian mother. He read History at the University of Toronto and gained a doctorate at Harvard University. He is a former Senior Research Fellow at King's College, Cambridge, and has held teaching posts at Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, the University of California, the University of London and the London School of Economics.

A regular broadcaster and critic on television and radio, Michael Ignatieff has hosted many programmes including Channel 4's Voices, the BBC's arts programme The Late Show, and the award-winning series Blood and Belonging: Journeys into the New Nationalism, first screened by the BBC in 1993, examining the issue of nationalism in the late twentieth century. His first book, A Just Measure of Pain: Penitentiaries in the Industrial Revolution, 1780-1850, a study of the English penal system, was published in 1978. The Russian Album (1987) is a memoir of his family's experience in nineteenth-century Russia and its subsequent exile to Europe and, eventually, Canada. It won the Governor General's Award for Non-Fiction (Canada) and the Heinemann Award. His first novel, Asya, a love story about a Russian living in Paris and London during World War II, was published in 1991, and was followed by Scar Tissue (1993), a powerful examination of love and the acceptance of loss, which was shortlisted for both the Booker Prize for Fiction and the Whitbread Novel Award.

His acclaimed biography of Isaiah Berlin, the result of ten years' research, was published in 1998. It was shortlisted for both the Jewish Quarterly Literary Prize for Non-Fiction and the James Tait Black Memorial Prize (for fiction). The Warrior's Honour: Ethnic War and the Modern Conscience (1998) is an examination of modern warfare and its complex moral implications, and Virtual War: Kosovo and Beyond (2000), which won the George Orwell Prize, is a study of the NATO bombing of Kosovo, and Human Rights as Politics and Idolatry (2001) is an account of the successes, failures and prospects of advances in human rights. His most recent book on ethnic war and intervention, Empire Lite: Nation Building in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, was published in 2003. Charlie Johnson in the Flames: A Novel, the story of a veteran war correspondent whose rash expedition into the war-torn Balkans has life-changing consequences, was published in the same year. The Lesser Evil: Political Ethics in an Age of Terror was published in 2004.

Michael Ignatieff is also the author of a television play, Dialogue in the Dark, an exchange between the dying philosopher David Hume and the writer James Boswell, based on Boswell's diary and Ignatieff's own book The Needs of Strangers (1984). It was directed by Jonathan Miller for BBC Television in 1989.

Michael Ignatieff is the Carr Professor and Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University.
 

mt_pockets1000

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Here are some of Harper's credentials:

He graduated in 1978, at the top of his class with a 95.7% average, and was a member of Richview Collegiate's team on Reach for the Top, a television quiz show for Canadian high school students.[6] Harper then enrolled at the University of Toronto but after two months he dropped out, then moved to Edmonton, Alberta, where he found work at Imperial Oil, in the mail room.[7] Later, he would advance to work on the company's computer systems.
 

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Best of a poor lot. Better than DIon, who can't decide which country he is a citizen of. Question is will he remain in Canada or change his mind and move back to the US?
 

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Here are some of Harper's credentials:

He graduated in 1978, at the top of his class with a 95.7% average, and was a member of Richview Collegiate's team on Reach for the Top, a television quiz show for Canadian high school students.[6] Harper then enrolled at the University of Toronto but after two months he dropped out, then moved to Edmonton, Alberta, where he found work at Imperial Oil, in the mail room.[7] Later, he would advance to work on the company's computer systems.
Harper is also working on a book about hockey - geek - policy wonk - prime minister - author - not bad for a guy who has yet to turn 50
For the first time in my life I am older than both the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Canada and I am not impressed!
 

Colpy

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Do you think Ignatieff can lead the Liberals to power?

I don't think there is any doubt. Ignatieff is better educated, better equipped, and better suited for Canadian federal politics than anyone on the federal scene. Here are some of his credentials:

Photo: © Sheppard Ferguson
Biography

Michael Ignatieff was born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada on 12 May 1947, the son of a Russian émigré father and a Canadian mother. He read History at the University of Toronto and gained a doctorate at Harvard University. He is a former Senior Research Fellow at King's College, Cambridge, and has held teaching posts at Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, the University of California, the University of London and the London School of Economics.

A regular broadcaster and critic on television and radio, Michael Ignatieff has hosted many programmes including Channel 4's Voices, the BBC's arts programme The Late Show, and the award-winning series Blood and Belonging: Journeys into the New Nationalism, first screened by the BBC in 1993, examining the issue of nationalism in the late twentieth century. His first book, A Just Measure of Pain: Penitentiaries in the Industrial Revolution, 1780-1850, a study of the English penal system, was published in 1978. The Russian Album (1987) is a memoir of his family's experience in nineteenth-century Russia and its subsequent exile to Europe and, eventually, Canada. It won the Governor General's Award for Non-Fiction (Canada) and the Heinemann Award. His first novel, Asya, a love story about a Russian living in Paris and London during World War II, was published in 1991, and was followed by Scar Tissue (1993), a powerful examination of love and the acceptance of loss, which was shortlisted for both the Booker Prize for Fiction and the Whitbread Novel Award.

His acclaimed biography of Isaiah Berlin, the result of ten years' research, was published in 1998. It was shortlisted for both the Jewish Quarterly Literary Prize for Non-Fiction and the James Tait Black Memorial Prize (for fiction). The Warrior's Honour: Ethnic War and the Modern Conscience (1998) is an examination of modern warfare and its complex moral implications, and Virtual War: Kosovo and Beyond (2000), which won the George Orwell Prize, is a study of the NATO bombing of Kosovo, and Human Rights as Politics and Idolatry (2001) is an account of the successes, failures and prospects of advances in human rights. His most recent book on ethnic war and intervention, Empire Lite: Nation Building in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, was published in 2003. Charlie Johnson in the Flames: A Novel, the story of a veteran war correspondent whose rash expedition into the war-torn Balkans has life-changing consequences, was published in the same year. The Lesser Evil: Political Ethics in an Age of Terror was published in 2004.

Michael Ignatieff is also the author of a television play, Dialogue in the Dark, an exchange between the dying philosopher David Hume and the writer James Boswell, based on Boswell's diary and Ignatieff's own book The Needs of Strangers (1984). It was directed by Jonathan Miller for BBC Television in 1989.

Michael Ignatieff is the Carr Professor and Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University.

That is pretty damn impressive.

He is much closer to the political position of the Conservatives than the vast majority of other Liberals, which makes him much more of a threat to the Conservatives electoral prospects.

Gotta love that the guy is a History prof.....he just might know something :)

Best Liberal leader offered since Louis St Laurent, or so it looks so far.

Let's see how he does in Parliament..........
 

#juan

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Here are some of Harper's credentials:

He graduated in 1978, at the top of his class with a 95.7% average, and was a member of Richview Collegiate's team on Reach for the Top, a television quiz show for Canadian high school students.[6] Harper then enrolled at the University of Toronto but after two months he dropped out, then moved to Edmonton, Alberta, where he found work at Imperial Oil, in the mail room.[7] Later, he would advance to work on the company's computer systems.

I'm not a Harper fan but Harper does have a couple degrees:


  • BA - University of Calgary 1985
  • MA - University of Calgary 1991
 

VanIsle

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That's right Colpy. He's extending an olive branch. With a warning. Either Harper agrees to work together with Ignatieff to govern the country or it's back to bringing down the Conservatives with a non-confidence vote. How can Harper refuse without tipping his hand about his real goal...that is to govern with impunity without regard for his minority status or the people of Canada.
An olive branch! You've got to be kidding. He's extending an ultimatum like he was already the man in charge of the county. He's more arrogant then Harper. To mit - no - I don't think he will stay in the country. He's here for himself for the time being. I don't believe he would have hung around for long had he not been made leader of the liberal party.:roll: