Genius
Posts: 821 
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
May 16th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Perhaps tours can be arranged, instead of 1 hunter they could take small groups, 10@$3000 each is the same as 1 @$30,000. Video is almost as good as a rug. Bears that die naturally could be sold for the hide although that could easily be abused.
You would think that the US would now have to get on the bandwagon of reducing the gases that are considered as part of the Global warming problem. (even though there is some dispute, if they 'officially' accept emissions as part of the problem they should take immediate steps to 'do their part'. I wouldn't hold my breath that it goes anything beyond a ban on extracting oil and gas products)
Perhaps tours can be arranged, instead of 1 hunter they could take small groups, 10@$3000 each is the same as 1 @$30,000. Video is almost as good as a rug. Bears that die naturally could be sold for the hide although that could easily be abused.
You would think that the US would now have to get on the bandwagon of reducing the gases that are considered as part of the Global warming problem. (even though there is some dispute, if they 'officially' accept emissions as part of the problem they should take immediate steps to 'do their part'. I wouldn't hold my breath that it goes anything beyond a ban on extracting oil and gas products)
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,471 
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
May 16th, 2008, 08:53 PM
My suggestion would be to continue the hunt and thin the population. Northern packs? prides? (WTH do you call a bear community?) will continue to hunt as before as they stay on the pack ice. Southern ones are going to have a long (and suicidal) swin to the pack so as cold as it sounds, culling them out may be the kindest option.
Quoting MHz
I never call something that can eat me Teddy.
My suggestion would be to continue the hunt and thin the population. Northern packs? prides? (WTH do you call a bear community?) will continue to hunt as before as they stay on the pack ice. Southern ones are going to have a long (and suicidal) swin to the pack so as cold as it sounds, culling them out may be the kindest option.
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
May 16th, 2008, 09:29 PM
Pack works for polar Bears, other bears are sloth or sleuth.
The southern bears (ones that spend time on land) wait for the ice to come to them. Hunting usually takes the biggest bears, those are the strongest, take them away (through something as stupid a trophy hunting) and the weakens the survival of the fittest. All hunters should be required to eat the whole bear also before he can take the hide home.
Pack works for polar Bears, other bears are sloth or sleuth.
The southern bears (ones that spend time on land) wait for the ice to come to them. Hunting usually takes the biggest bears, those are the strongest, take them away (through something as stupid a trophy hunting) and the weakens the survival of the fittest. All hunters should be required to eat the whole bear also before he can take the hide home.
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,471
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
May 16th, 2008, 09:38 PM
Quoting MHz
Yeah ... I have found a few skinned and rotting carcasses of Blackbears - even when we still had the spring hunt. Really burns my butt that they gave their lives only for the hide, sex parts and a gall bladder. Killing the spring hunt may have been the stupidest thing Ontario ever did - but I wonder what they'd have to say about a poacher vanishing into the depths of some good ol' Northern Ontario muskeg?
Pack works for polar Bears, other bears are sloth or sleuth.
The southern bears (ones that spend time on land) wait for the ice to come to them. Hunting usually takes the biggest bears, those are the strongest, take them away (through something as stupid a trophy hunting) and the weakens the survival of the fittest. All hunters should be required to eat the whole bear also before he can take the hide home.
The southern bears (ones that spend time on land) wait for the ice to come to them. Hunting usually takes the biggest bears, those are the strongest, take them away (through something as stupid a trophy hunting) and the weakens the survival of the fittest. All hunters should be required to eat the whole bear also before he can take the hide home.
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
May 17th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Going down would seem to be a bit slower way to go than being eaten by a bear. We do it for every species, even moose are not exempt from becoming a trophy.
How long is the list Ontario has that fall under 'stupid things'?
Any plans out yet as to how to fill up the Great Lakes from James Bay with fresh water, I seem to recall that sea-ice is fresh water.
When farming peat you have to add sand at a certain ratio(66% more topsoil) that stops any possibility of it catching fire and this also allows for the passage of roots.
Going down would seem to be a bit slower way to go than being eaten by a bear. We do it for every species, even moose are not exempt from becoming a trophy.
How long is the list Ontario has that fall under 'stupid things'?
Any plans out yet as to how to fill up the Great Lakes from James Bay with fresh water, I seem to recall that sea-ice is fresh water.
When farming peat you have to add sand at a certain ratio(66% more topsoil) that stops any possibility of it catching fire and this also allows for the passage of roots.
