Clarifying the meaning of Left and Right

[petros]

Just because it pisses me off there is something I'd like to clear up when it comes to the terms Left and Right and the political spectrum.


First off Right is not Conservative and Left is not Socialist, Libertarian or Commie.


Far Right is zero government at all. None. Zip zant doodly squat.


Far Left is totalitarian dictators whether Nazi or Commie or Fascist.


We sit in the middle whether Con or Lib in the fine nation of Canada so thank your lucky stars that none of us are far right or far left.


As you were!

 

[DaSleeper]

Aye Aye Sir!






That is all

 

[MHz]

Don't we lean to the far left as we do have that little thing that can be invoked quite easily, even by a trick, called Martial Law. There is no voting by the public on that and it is brought on by our 'employees' to stifle dissent from the 'employers'. That seems a tad backwards to me. Get a group of crooked 'employees' who are shafting the 'employer' and it should be the emnployers who invike Martial Law and all
employees' would be arrested or whatever it takes to return control to the voting citizens.

 

[petros]

If you really want to see how fast our govt can go far Left totalitarian, simply don't pay your taxes. At first they will send nasty notices. If you don't act upon the notices then they send armed people to round you up, take away your house and anything else they can sell off.

Hooray for freedom and democracy!!!

 

[wulfie68]

I was taught differently.

What my understanding has always been is that extreme left is communism, extreme right is fascism, both totalitarian dictatorships, just one insists on nationalized industry while the other is OK with privately owned industry.

Now in the Canadian scheme, Retired Soldier called it spot on, in my opinion. We call the Conservatives "far right" in Canada, when in reality they are a centrist to center right party by a more international viewpoint. We don't have a far right party in Canada as much as many try to claim because even our "right wing" party firmly supports a lot of social programs such as our universal Medicare. The Liberals are probably farther from center than the Conservatives but on the Left side of the spectrum and the NDP is even farther yet but the quasi intellectuals who support these utopian agendas don't like to admit that they are radical when imposed on the real world.

 

[CDNBear]

Don't we lean to the far left as we do have that little thing that can be invoked quite easily, even by a trick, called Martial Law. There is no voting by the public on that and it is brought on by our 'employees' to stifle dissent from the 'employers'. That seems a tad backwards to me. Get a group of crooked 'employees' who are shafting the 'employer' and it should be the emnployers who invike Martial Law and all
employees' would be arrested or whatever it takes to return control to the voting citizens.

Irony aside.

The Emergencies Act, which is still subject to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, exists in Canada, not Martial law.

 

[MHz]

Now in the Canadian scheme, Retired Soldier called it spot on, in my opinion. We call the Conservatives "far right" in Canada, when in reality they are a centrist to center right party by a more international viewpoint. We don't have a far right party in Canada as much as many try to claim because even our "right wing" party firmly supports a lot of social programs such as our universal Medicare. The Liberals are probably farther from center than the Conservatives but on the Left side of the spectrum and the NDP is even farther yet but the quasi intellectuals who support these utopian agendas don't like to admit that they are radical when imposed on the real world.

It's starting to sound like a circle jerk with the voter being bound and gagged and laying on the floor in the middle.

 

[petros]

I was taught differently.

What my understanding has always been is that extreme left is communism, extreme right is fascism, both totalitarian dictatorships, just one insists on nationalized industry while the other is OK with privately owned industry.

The Cons and Libs we vote for are left of center. We are told there is a left and right side to two parties that front the race but they are so politically close it's like voting for the same.

 

[taxslave]

It's starting to sound like a circle jerk with the voter being bound and gagged and laying on the floor in the middle.

I don't know about a circle jerk but taxpayers are bound and gagged with their butts up in the air awaiting the bureaucratic shaft.

 

[wulfie68]

It's starting to sound like a circle jerk with the voter being bound and gagged and laying on the floor in the middle.

In a lot of ways, it is...

 

[petros]

Get your political raincoat on.

 

[MHz]

How about they just stop jerking off and untie us.

 

[taxslave]

How about they just stop jerking off and untie us.

Then what would they do? few of them have any real job skills.

 

[petros]

All you have to do is say so and they will.

 

[SLM]

The Cons and Libs we vote for are left of center. We are told there is a left and right side to two parties that front the race but they are so politically close it's like voting for the same.

That would be why we flip flop between them like we do.

 

[petros]

Exactly and why things never change when one takes over from the other. We only vote for personalities of a schizophrenic and nothing more

 

[SLM]

Exactly and why things never change when one takes over from the other. We only vote for personalities of a schizophrenic and nothing more

I don't remember who posted it but I recall reading in a different thread a while back that we Canadians say we want change but we don't really want change. I think that's probably true. We can delude ourselves that we are "voting for change" when we elect the Cons to oust the Libs or vice versa, but it really is a delusion.

We are a complacent nation.

 

[cranky]

imo, there is nothing liberal about the Liberal's gun control agenda of disarming law abiding citizens. imo, there is nothing conservative about the Conservative's bailout package that was designed to protect corporate incompetance for the sake of saving jobs.

 

[GreenFish66]

@Trivs T_R_A_V_I_S
When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.-Gary Lloyd

Left or Right Brain ?..Ecology/Economy.? .Socialist Dictator /Capitalist Dictators..?--
Left /Right in politics? Is all 1side against another /sometimes more... A game to play..for/with the People....

Who knows?

Left/Right?

Best to have/use, best of both/All , less of others,... more of some other ones, at other times....

All for/in/on 1 ...)?)

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1Ecosytem..1 Global Economy....Many Socialist/Capitalist Dictators and Zombie Slave Drone Sheeples...

To BigBad Gov/Biz..There are no little Sheeples,. Just Progress/Profits/Personal Perks/lotsa Numbers (#/$$)

Left/Right ...Wing?

I don't Know/Care

What I do know is that ..

- Saying/Doing the Same things over and over again....Expecting a different Result ..Is ...Governmental Insanity...!
- Democrazy, is to Control the masses. Peacefully..

( I'm an Environmentally Minded/Social/Conservative....Non-Partisan..Colours are Green/Blue ..)


Is all Governmental Insanity, This Democrazy is...I tell ya all..


There, did that clarify the meaning of Right and Left?

Peace..

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

We have it a lot better than most, though we often whine more than most.