Layton is soft on capitalist pigs

[darkbeaver]

Canada: 2009 NDP Federal Convention - Say "No" to coalitions

Written by Camilo Cahis in Toronto Monday, 10 August 2009

The effects of the economic crisis have hit Canadian workers hard over the last year. Going into this summer's federal NDP convention, the NDP needs to stand up for workers and not enter into any more coaltions with the bosses' parties.
The effects of the economic crisis have hit Canadian workers hard over the last year. As of the beginning of June, over 362,000 jobs had disappeared in Canada since October 2008. Over half of these job losses have been in Ontario, mostly in the relatively well-paid manufacturing sector. According to Statistics Canada, Canada's unemployment rate currently stands at a 15-year high, but is going to continue to grow for years to come. Most bourgeois economists admit that even in the unlikely chance the economy begins to rebound by the end of this year, it will take much longer for jobs to return.

As one Toronto Star columnist put it, in this situation, one would expect for workers to be turning to Canada's “socialist” party, the NDP, in droves. But, the opposite is the case. In a recent poll, the federal NDP continues t

 

[Machjo]

Say no to co-allitions? So in other words, the NDP should be just as hard-headed and unco-operative and confrontational as the Conservative Party?

Ah, George Orwel's Animal Farm still holds true toda. Left or right, they're all the same.

 

[darkbeaver]

No actually it's a case of the membership having tired of Mr Laytons lazy non confrontational dithering while Rome burns. There's been far to much having of tea and biscuits with the regressive barbaric capitalist pig dogs.

 

[Kreskin]

Who's kidding who about capitalism and what the alternative might be. Everyone, no matter what their stripes are, is into anything for the money. Dress up as many as you want in Mao suits; if you aren't making the money someone else is. Even the communists have their elite tea parties on the backs of the worker. At least capitalists are honest. There is no alternative to making money. Either make it or hang around for handouts.

 

[lone wolf]

Layton knows what side his bread is buttered on....

 

[darkbeaver]

Who's kidding who about capitalism and what the alternative might be. Everyone, no matter what their stripes are, is into anything for the money. Dress up as many as you want in Mao suits; if you aren't making the money someone else is. Even the communists have their elite tea parties on the backs of the worker. At least capitalists are honest. There is no alternative to making money. Either make it or hang around for handouts.

You've been in the sun too long Kreskin, happens every summer. Try and keep in mind that while I applaud the end of capitalism, especially the American variety, twas not I what broke it, twas the greedy capitalist pig dogs themselves. Now as I see it you can pine away for the good old bad days, that are never coming back, or you can adapt to The Pink World Order like an intelligent socially involved person. There was always alternatives to money. Very soon food and firewood will be the currency of choice. Even better than gold and silver at first.

 

[Risus]

The NDP convention ran out of time to chande the name by removing 'New'. If they can't organize their time in a convention , how do they expect to be able to run a country???

 

[Johnnny]

^--- i saw that very same quote in the comments section on ctv... Was that you?

 

[lone wolf]

The NDP convention ran out of time to chande the name by removing 'New'. If they can't organize their time in a convention , how do they expect to be able to run a country???

I hope not the same way Harper operates his fiefdom....

 

[earth_as_one]

The NDP convention ran out of time to chande the name by removing 'New'. If they can't organize their time in a convention , how do they expect to be able to run a country???

You mean set priorities and deal with as many issues as possible in the time alloted starting with the most important ones first?

Personally I don't think a name change is as important as climate change and the environment, sustainable energy, gender violence, foreign aid, immigration policy and first nations land claims.

 

[Kreskin]

You've been in the sun too long Kreskin, happens every summer. Try and keep in mind that while I applaud the end of capitalism, especially the American variety, twas not I what broke it, twas the greedy capitalist pig dogs themselves. Now as I see it you can pine away for the good old bad days, that are never coming back, or you can adapt to The Pink World Order like an intelligent socially involved person. There was always alternatives to money. Very soon food and firewood will be the currency of choice. Even better than gold and silver at first.

It's always something that will happen very soon, then it's on to the next very soon thing... Nothing is broke. What you've witnessed over the last couple of years is the way the world works.

 

[Said1]

Layton is soft on just about everything, IMHO. He isn't as short as he appears on TV, though.

 

[darkbeaver]

It's always something that will happen very soon, then it's on to the next very soon thing... Nothing is broke. What you've witnessed over the last couple of years is the way the world works.

That's what I'v been saying. Don't expect an argument from me about the accuracy of your statement. Your perspective isn't the same as mine. Yours seems very alien to me. If nothings broke then something needs to be smashed. The ways of the world are subject to change without notice.The ways of mankind are predictable. The last couple of years was a tiny byte. If you don't want to make the world a better place you're wasteing it's time and resources. You are here for it, not the other way arround. That's natural capitalism by the way.:lol:

 

[Kreskin]

Beave, the world is full of greed. That's the nature of mankind. It isn't going away. We're all greedy. Unless you can put a stop to greed you will always have capitalism, even if it charades as something else. Converting currency to firewood will just result in people hoarding firewood and selling it to those who don't have it - at the highest price they can get. Fort Western Red Cedar will have stockpiles of pristine logs while people live under bridges and wheel around burnt embers in shopping carts.

 

[darkbeaver]

Beave, the world is full of greed. That's the nature of mankind. It isn't going away. We're all greedy. Unless you can put a stop to greed you will always have capitalism, even if it charades as something else. Converting currency to firewood will just result in people hoarding firewood and selling it to those who don't have it - at the highest price they can get. Fort Western Red Cedar will have stockpiles of pristine logs while people live under bridges and wheel around burnt embers in shopping carts.

Again I got no argument. Unregulated greed is what capitalism nurtures, and nothing else but. Those who lean that right way don't see error they only see vulgar oportunity. If reason and ethics do not inform your greed, loseing your hand surely will. We did not and will not always have capitalism, don't hide behind trade and industry come out into the light, where we can see the horns and cloven hooves. We have always had murder, should we embrace it?

 

[Kreskin]

I think the likelihood of stopping people from trying to make more money than their neighbour will be about as successful as any new regulation intended to eliminate murder.

 

[darkbeaver]

I think the likelihood of stopping people from trying to make more money than their neighbour will be about as successful as any new regulation intended to eliminate murder.

Negative vibrations just get you negative returns all the bright people hope for positive developement and outcome.How does stagnation and regression serve you, and how will it not serve your children less than it has served you?

 

[Risus]

Layton is soft on just about everything, IMHO. He isn't as short as he appears on TV, though.

Yes, jackasses sure are short....

 

[Risus]

^--- i saw that very same quote in the comments section on ctv... Was that you?

Nope. Others have the same opinion of the party...

 

[Risus]

You mean set priorities and deal with as many issues as possible in the time alloted starting with the most important ones first?

Personally I don't think a name change is as important as climate change and the environment, sustainable energy, gender violence, foreign aid, immigration policy and first nations land claims.

Are you referring to handing out out tax dollars to every tom, jane and low life in the country and elsewhere?