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October 4th, 2007, 11:57 AM
I'm back to being a liberal...my stint as an NDP flake is over...this is a Liberal Country...the conservatives are only there to keep the expenses of being a Liberal country in check...right now is not the time for conservative thinking at all....maybe after eight years of Hilary we could use a lil bit of conservatism...
I'm back to being a liberal...my stint as an NDP flake is over...this is a Liberal Country...the conservatives are only there to keep the expenses of being a Liberal country in check...right now is not the time for conservative thinking at all....maybe after eight years of Hilary we could use a lil bit of conservatism...
sick and twisted
Posts: 2,537
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
October 4th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Never thought I would get apathetic about an election, but, when it's a choice between tweedledum and tweedledee................................?
If the liberals get my vote, it won't be a vote for the Libs so much as a vote AGAINST the Cons. Voting NDP would just split things up, and maybe the Cons. would get a MAJORITY??? I don't think so, this time around; but, it could happen............so has to be Lib. (convoluted?)
Mike Hairass and Lyin Bryin are too fresh in my memory to ever want to even CHANCE a con. majority. You can BET they have an agenda, both provincially and federally, and we've seen health care and education take too many whacks in their last reign. Downloading, etc., It makes me physically ill to even think of Mike Harris.............Man should be in jail. Prick.
McLiar took physio and eye exams off OHIP. And gave us the Health TAX. Maybe he'll put those back if he has a MINORITY. Seems that's the only time stuff gets done, or not.
So, just on a personal level, gotta be Libs. The Mc.Liar I know is infinitely better than the HairAss I don't....................Not too sophisticated, but there ya have it.
Xworking stiff.
Never thought I would get apathetic about an election, but, when it's a choice between tweedledum and tweedledee................................?
If the liberals get my vote, it won't be a vote for the Libs so much as a vote AGAINST the Cons. Voting NDP would just split things up, and maybe the Cons. would get a MAJORITY??? I don't think so, this time around; but, it could happen............so has to be Lib. (convoluted?)
Mike Hairass and Lyin Bryin are too fresh in my memory to ever want to even CHANCE a con. majority. You can BET they have an agenda, both provincially and federally, and we've seen health care and education take too many whacks in their last reign. Downloading, etc., It makes me physically ill to even think of Mike Harris.............Man should be in jail. Prick.
McLiar took physio and eye exams off OHIP. And gave us the Health TAX. Maybe he'll put those back if he has a MINORITY. Seems that's the only time stuff gets done, or not.
So, just on a personal level, gotta be Libs. The Mc.Liar I know is infinitely better than the HairAss I don't....................Not too sophisticated, but there ya have it.
Xworking stiff. Executive Member
Posts: 9,534
October 4th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Quoting Colpy
They're crammed into the center because that's where the voters are. Extreme right or left wingers are liars.
Honestly, I think the whole left - right argument is really exagerated in this country.......every party is crammed into the centre..
Electoral Member
Posts: 909
Location: Eastern Ontario
Location: Eastern Ontario
October 4th, 2007, 12:25 PM
what an idiotic statment that always comes up when someone talks about the conservatives..This Agenda issue.....
Conservatives do not have a hidden agenda!! They rather have A agenda..just like any other party. The problem is anyone on the left can't fathom that anyone would agree with a right of centre approach unless it was hidden!!
Mike Harris hid nothing...you may not agree with his ways but he laid it all out..the only difference is that he actually did it!!
Harper is suppose to have one as well....we have not seen it yet....then we are told just wait till he gets a majority THEN it will come out!!! Boy I hust wish the Government could keep something so well hidden!!!
I'd like to hear all about the secret left wing agenda....all working for China..and when all provinces and federal governments are linked up it will come out.....sounds as lame as Conservative aganda does it not??
what an idiotic statment that always comes up when someone talks about the conservatives..This Agenda issue.....
Conservatives do not have a hidden agenda!! They rather have A agenda..just like any other party. The problem is anyone on the left can't fathom that anyone would agree with a right of centre approach unless it was hidden!!
Mike Harris hid nothing...you may not agree with his ways but he laid it all out..the only difference is that he actually did it!!
Harper is suppose to have one as well....we have not seen it yet....then we are told just wait till he gets a majority THEN it will come out!!! Boy I hust wish the Government could keep something so well hidden!!!
I'd like to hear all about the secret left wing agenda....all working for China..and when all provinces and federal governments are linked up it will come out.....sounds as lame as Conservative aganda does it not??
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,995
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
October 4th, 2007, 05:25 PM
I think its high time the Left united in Canada.
There's the NDP
http://www.ndp.ca/
and there's the Communist Party of Canada
http://www.communist-party.ca/
AND the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada, who also claim to be the Communist Party of Canada.
http://www.cpcml.ca/
Isn't that confusing?
Why are they all separate? Can't they see they're splitting the vote?
Oh, and let's not forget the Marijuana Party of Canada.
http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/index.en.php3
Really, now, they should all be the same political party.
I think its high time the Left united in Canada.
There's the NDP
http://www.ndp.ca/
and there's the Communist Party of Canada
http://www.communist-party.ca/
AND the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada, who also claim to be the Communist Party of Canada.
http://www.cpcml.ca/
Isn't that confusing?
Why are they all separate? Can't they see they're splitting the vote?
Oh, and let's not forget the Marijuana Party of Canada.
http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/index.en.php3
Really, now, they should all be the same political party.
October 4th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Quoting DocDred
I didn't say it required legislation. It requires party leaders without super large egos. Idealistic perhaps. Moronic it is not.
how can you legislate free votes....another moronic manning idea....
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,281
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 4th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Wolf
Quoting Toro
Now I know why beer comes in those narrow bottles....
I think its high time the Left united in Canada.
There's the NDP
http://www.ndp.ca/
and there's the Communist Party of Canada
http://www.communist-party.ca/
AND the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada, who also claim to be the Communist Party of Canada.
http://www.cpcml.ca/
Isn't that confusing?
Why are they all separate? Can't they see they're splitting the vote?
Oh, and let's not forget the Marijuana Party of Canada.
http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/index.en.php3
Really, now, they should all be the same political party.
There's the NDP
http://www.ndp.ca/
and there's the Communist Party of Canada
http://www.communist-party.ca/
AND the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada, who also claim to be the Communist Party of Canada.
http://www.cpcml.ca/
Isn't that confusing?
Why are they all separate? Can't they see they're splitting the vote?
Oh, and let's not forget the Marijuana Party of Canada.
http://www.marijuanaparty.ca/index.en.php3
Really, now, they should all be the same political party.
Wolf
Time Out
Posts: 214
Location: Vancouver Island
Location: Vancouver Island
October 4th, 2007, 06:29 PM
The Libs are a right-wing party.... not a left. They signed Kyoto, pollution went up along with corporate welfare.... massive tax shelters for big businesses....
Lots of let-wing words... no left-wing actions. Plenty of right-wing action though.
The Libs are NOT left-wing, nor are they "center" whatever that means.
Plus they stole our money and gave it to their French buddies.... so they are right-wingers who are also corrupt! Great platform for a political party.... and Canadaians are stupid enough to vote for them or stay home in droves.
The Libs are a right-wing party.... not a left. They signed Kyoto, pollution went up along with corporate welfare.... massive tax shelters for big businesses....
Lots of let-wing words... no left-wing actions. Plenty of right-wing action though.
The Libs are NOT left-wing, nor are they "center" whatever that means.
Plus they stole our money and gave it to their French buddies.... so they are right-wingers who are also corrupt! Great platform for a political party.... and Canadaians are stupid enough to vote for them or stay home in droves.
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Posts: 77
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
October 5th, 2007, 04:30 AM
they also created the socialized healthcare
and they try to propagate the image of being soft cuddly wuddlies so that the largely peace-loving socialist canadian will vote for them. also all left wingers consider the liberals a better (if only slightly) alternative to the conservatives. so they definitely split the left wing vote, which is all that matters to me at the end of the day. the libs, NDP, greens, are all fighting over the same pie while the con's dont have to worry about losing their voter base to any other party.
they also created the socialized healthcare
and they try to propagate the image of being soft cuddly wuddlies so that the largely peace-loving socialist canadian will vote for them. also all left wingers consider the liberals a better (if only slightly) alternative to the conservatives. so they definitely split the left wing vote, which is all that matters to me at the end of the day. the libs, NDP, greens, are all fighting over the same pie while the con's dont have to worry about losing their voter base to any other party.
sick and twisted
Posts: 2,537
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
October 5th, 2007, 05:23 AM
And there we have it, the right wing rebuttal, and a good one too. Far be it from me to call anyone and idiot though.
That's the nice thing about Kanadar eh, we all get to have our own opinion, and print or shout it out loud, and we don't get hauled out of our homes during the night for doing so. I think that's kind of ok.
Oh yes, agenda: Try this: When (for eg.) Hairass was in power in Ont., nurses were equated with hula hoop gals and about 7500-8000 of them were laid off, approx. 28 hospitals were closed, and doctor training was curtailed by 10%, welfare was cut drastically. Then you had Snobelen's "create a crisis"; and guess what: He did. We're still paying the price in wait times for the cuts in health care. And the Cons would like to further "help" health care by privatizing it.
Then there's Walkerton. Ask folks there about downloading and "cost efficient" quality control..
Harris never said he would do all these things, but, he was completely honest and transparent. Sure he was. Another "compassionate" conservative.
But, being an idiot, what would I know about such things?
d'oh Nuggler.
Quoting ottawabill
what an idiotic statment that always comes up when someone talks about the conservatives..This Agenda issue.....
Conservatives do not have a hidden agenda!! They rather have A agenda..just like any other party. The problem is anyone on the left can't fathom that anyone would agree with a right of centre approach unless it was hidden!!
Mike Harris hid nothing...you may not agree with his ways but he laid it all out..the only difference is that he actually did it!!
Harper is suppose to have one as well....we have not seen it yet....then we are told just wait till he gets a majority THEN it will come out!!! Boy I hust wish the Government could keep something so well hidden!!!
I'd like to hear all about the secret left wing agenda....all working for China..and when all provinces and federal governments are linked up it will come out.....sounds as lame as Conservative aganda does it not??
Conservatives do not have a hidden agenda!! They rather have A agenda..just like any other party. The problem is anyone on the left can't fathom that anyone would agree with a right of centre approach unless it was hidden!!
Mike Harris hid nothing...you may not agree with his ways but he laid it all out..the only difference is that he actually did it!!
Harper is suppose to have one as well....we have not seen it yet....then we are told just wait till he gets a majority THEN it will come out!!! Boy I hust wish the Government could keep something so well hidden!!!
I'd like to hear all about the secret left wing agenda....all working for China..and when all provinces and federal governments are linked up it will come out.....sounds as lame as Conservative aganda does it not??
And there we have it, the right wing rebuttal, and a good one too. Far be it from me to call anyone and idiot though. That's the nice thing about Kanadar eh, we all get to have our own opinion, and print or shout it out loud, and we don't get hauled out of our homes during the night for doing so. I think that's kind of ok.
Oh yes, agenda: Try this: When (for eg.) Hairass was in power in Ont., nurses were equated with hula hoop gals and about 7500-8000 of them were laid off, approx. 28 hospitals were closed, and doctor training was curtailed by 10%, welfare was cut drastically. Then you had Snobelen's "create a crisis"; and guess what: He did. We're still paying the price in wait times for the cuts in health care. And the Cons would like to further "help" health care by privatizing it.
Then there's Walkerton. Ask folks there about downloading and "cost efficient" quality control..
Harris never said he would do all these things, but, he was completely honest and transparent. Sure he was. Another "compassionate" conservative.
But, being an idiot, what would I know about such things?
d'oh Nuggler.
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,281
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 5th, 2007, 08:39 AM
Wolf
Quoting OakServe
Socialized healthcare was a gift from the late Tommy Douglas NDP. Pearson thought it was a great idea and went with it. Did you know, traditionally, the Liberal Party was the one annointed by the Catholic Church?
they also created the socialized healthcare
and they try to propagate the image of being soft cuddly wuddlies so that the largely peace-loving socialist canadian will vote for them. also all left wingers consider the liberals a better (if only slightly) alternative to the conservatives. so they definitely split the left wing vote, which is all that matters to me at the end of the day. the libs, NDP, greens, are all fighting over the same pie while the con's dont have to worry about losing their voter base to any other party.
and they try to propagate the image of being soft cuddly wuddlies so that the largely peace-loving socialist canadian will vote for them. also all left wingers consider the liberals a better (if only slightly) alternative to the conservatives. so they definitely split the left wing vote, which is all that matters to me at the end of the day. the libs, NDP, greens, are all fighting over the same pie while the con's dont have to worry about losing their voter base to any other party.
Wolf
Senate Member
Posts: 5,591
Location: Saint John, N.B.
Location: Saint John, N.B.
October 5th, 2007, 10:04 AM
The Liberals have long had a reputation of campaigning from the left, and governing from theright.
The Liberals simply do whatever is necessary to get in power..........
Quoting JoeSchmoe
Yeah.
The Libs are a right-wing party.... not a left. They signed Kyoto, pollution went up along with corporate welfare.... massive tax shelters for big businesses....
Lots of let-wing words... no left-wing actions. Plenty of right-wing action though.
The Libs are NOT left-wing, nor are they "center" whatever that means.
Plus they stole our money and gave it to their French buddies.... so they are right-wingers who are also corrupt! Great platform for a political party.... and Canadaians are stupid enough to vote for them or stay home in droves.
Lots of let-wing words... no left-wing actions. Plenty of right-wing action though.
The Libs are NOT left-wing, nor are they "center" whatever that means.
Plus they stole our money and gave it to their French buddies.... so they are right-wingers who are also corrupt! Great platform for a political party.... and Canadaians are stupid enough to vote for them or stay home in droves.
The Liberals have long had a reputation of campaigning from the left, and governing from theright.
The Liberals simply do whatever is necessary to get in power..........
October 5th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Quoting Colpy
Aint that the truth. They have fence sitting down to an art form.
Yeah.
The Liberals have long had a reputation of campaigning from the left, and governing from theright.
The Liberals simply do whatever is necessary to get in power..........
The Liberals have long had a reputation of campaigning from the left, and governing from theright.
The Liberals simply do whatever is necessary to get in power..........
