Why aren't the books of hospital, libraries, and all gov't organizations open and public? What are they trying to hide? People just don't know where the money goes. The bureaucrats who run these organizations, with our tax money, make so many things a secret, when they should be open to the public at any time.
Open the books of all Gov't & Crown corporations
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Agree, open the books and see the examples.Why aren't the books of hospital, libraries, and all gov't organizations open and public? What are they trying to hide? People just don't know where the money goes. The bureaucrats who run these organizations, with our tax money, make so many things a secret, when they should be open to the public at any time.
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Oh hell yeah! I'd like to take a look at the books of all levels of enforcement in Canada too. I'm sure there are some skeletons in those closets.
Well the "books" being open to the public would be non-sense. An audited financial statement is just as good.
Isn't the Auditor General of Canada assigned that task? I Think so.
Individual salaries are not protected. Every gov't employee is classified at a certain designation. The designations are listed on the gov't's website.
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/coll_agre/rates-taux_e.asp
It's probably not that hard to find out the classification of an individual employee....
Does freedom of information grant citizens the right to personal information, like employee classification? The government lists what the professions make based on experience and qualifications, but I don't think I can access what classification Joe Schmoe is. That would be invasion of privacy. I could be wrong on that, but I doubt it.
There are of course ways to find that out, but I'd be surprised and angered, as would many others if the government granted that information.
There are of course ways to find that out, but I'd be surprised and angered, as would many others if the government granted that information.
You people are whacked.
Anyone who wants to look can.
Example....
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/publications/salarydisclosure/2007/
Most however are just to lazy to do any research and expect it hand delivered to them in their comfy chair.:roll:
Anyone who wants to look can.
Example....
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/publications/salarydisclosure/2007/
Most however are just to lazy to do any research and expect it hand delivered to them in their comfy chair.:roll:
Can I find a private* hospital records in public?...
Other than them telling me "OH WE ARA GOOD YEH!"
Other than them telling me "OH WE ARA GOOD YEH!"
Can you translate it?
I don't understand the point about 'private*' hospital records, when this topic was about public hospitals. The rest was relatively easy to figure out.
I don't understand the point about 'private*' hospital records, when this topic was about public hospitals. The rest was relatively easy to figure out.
Oh. Private health records are....private. If you want someone else's records, forget it. Without their consent, it's none of your business (assuming that you are not the legal guardian).
If you want a copy of your own file, you need to see your doctor, sign a form, and probably pay to have it copied.
If you want a copy of your hospital records, go to the Hospital administration, most of them have a patient advocate or ombudsman who can help you.
If you want a copy of your own file, you need to see your doctor, sign a form, and probably pay to have it copied.
If you want a copy of your hospital records, go to the Hospital administration, most of them have a patient advocate or ombudsman who can help you.
Wow, here are hospital salary records from Ontario. Pretty good. Well, some of us are lazy.
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/publications/salarydisclosure/2006/hospit06.html
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/publications/salarydisclosure/2006/hospit06.html
Maybe not, maybe so.
I certainly can see how you don't like to make that information available, but we force people to go beyond their privacy all the time.
From forcing Muslim women against their modesty to show their faces (a growing trend) to the more relevant (to this case) forcing you to get a public record for building permits, having to let everyone know what your building on your property.
If its all public for everyone though, it works out well, and has proven to work well.
Besides, if you wanna get down to it, people in a marketing firm already know what you make, what you buy, how often you buy it, what you invest in, what books you read, what food you eat, how much you drive, what movies you see and when, what X-rated products you buy etc etc etc
So, I think Tax Returns are the least of your problems, people with a vested interest in getting your money already know it all, and sell the information legally.
I certainly can see how you don't like to make that information available, but we force people to go beyond their privacy all the time.
From forcing Muslim women against their modesty to show their faces (a growing trend) to the more relevant (to this case) forcing you to get a public record for building permits, having to let everyone know what your building on your property.
If its all public for everyone though, it works out well, and has proven to work well.
Besides, if you wanna get down to it, people in a marketing firm already know what you make, what you buy, how often you buy it, what you invest in, what books you read, what food you eat, how much you drive, what movies you see and when, what X-rated products you buy etc etc etc
So, I think Tax Returns are the least of your problems, people with a vested interest in getting your money already know it all, and sell the information legally.