Turks and Caicos to join Canada?


Hamlet
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Periodically, I've come across news items of a proposal to have the British Caribbean territory of Turks and Caicos Islands to join Canada. What does everyone think? A good or bad idea? Any problems or difficulties with achieving this?

Or does a Canadian playland in the sun sound too good to be true?
 
athabaska
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We can't go to the Caribbean now? Why would we want to pay for their health, education and so on? We'd just be setting ourselves up for future political issues. Canada already has too much diversity and multi this and multi that as it is.

question: Do you think the average Joe sixpack would benefit from this sun and surf?
 
#juan
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First of all

The Turks and Calcos are not going to join Canada.

But if they did, it would be the best thing to happen to them. It would be expensive but Canada would build a decent water and sewer system. Can you think of a tropical paradise where you can drink the water? There must be one or two out there, but I can't think of any right now. The currency would be the Canadian dollar. Compare that to Cancun where even the locals don't want Mexican money. It would be a great outlet for Canadian food products, meat, fish, etc. But, as I said, it's not going to happen.. .. Stupid turks and Calcos...
 
tamarin
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Anyone supporting this nonsense should be impaled. We have enough problems already with integration issues and we don't need our own little border fifth column planted thousands of kilometres offshore.
 
wallyj
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Yes,Yes,let's do it. They are a stable country with a small population.I work for the gov't and would immediately put in for a transfer.
 
Hamlet
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I think the biggest question is would the Turks be drain or a benefit to Canada? I'm not convinced that it's a hornets nest. After all, the population is only 32,000. That's peanuts in a country of 32 or 33 million. I don't see them all jumping on the first flight to Fort Mac to work for the big money. I imagine most would prefer to stay where their homes are, provided they can make a living.

Now as far as paying for health care, schools and all the rest, well, Canadians are doing that already. But it's in the form of tourist dollars, instead of taxes.

Now, as for the suggestion that people should be impaled for supporting such a proposal, I find that much too meadieval. In keeping with the Turks and Caicos Islands pirate history, I propose that future supporters of this nonsense should walk the plank!
 
Daz_Hockey
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Hangon a moment, so Turks and Caicos's government seem to want to connect with Canada, and to me this looks like a deal put together by Britain and Canada, personally I'd do a referendem to see if the islanders want it, cus it sounds to me like a deal the big boys have put together for the future of a couple of islands that they dont really give 2 hoots to, besides, what if they want to stay british?.
 
Hamlet
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Well, naturally the residents of the islands should have a say. A survey taken in 1985 or '86 revealed 90% of the islanders wanted an association with Canada. How much that has changed today, I don't know.
 
Daz_Hockey
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I dont understand it to be honest, if I'm perfectly honest, it's like Joining Man City instead of Man United (no offence), but why dont they join the US?
 
sine000
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To much man...to much....we are already dealing with Quebec and the soverigenty of our northern island and water....we dont even have the resources to deal with some Caribbean island....were SOOO FAR away from it...
 
Daz_Hockey
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I think your starting to understand the situation Britain found itself in sine00
 
sine000
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haha....i think so too...haha...Britain SOOO FAR waay from Canada....haha
 
#juan
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Out of curiosity,

how much do Canadians spend in Hawaii, The Grand Caymans, Jamaica, and other tropical resorts. With modern hotels and facilities how much would Americans spend in the "New" Turks and Calcos? Wouldn't it be a better thing for Canadians to spend their money "in Canada" so to speak? Like I said before, it's not going to happen anyway.
 
Daz_Hockey
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Yeah, so that I can move to Turks and Caicos without the need for documentation...and you cant ;p lol
 
Hamlet
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Are the Turks and Caicos really all that far away? Compare the following distances.

Toronto to Vancouver: 3366 km
Toronto to Whitehorse: 4093 km
Toronto to Turks and Caicos: 2579 km
 
sine000
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hamlet

Are the Turks and Caicos really all that far away? Compare the following distances.

Toronto to Vancouver: 3366 km
Toronto to Whitehorse: 4093 km
Toronto to Turks and Caicos: 2579 km

I mean as a country....HARD to rule from so far away....agree Daz_Hockey?
(like Canada and Britain)
 
Daz_Hockey
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see, I think they value their EU passports more than a canadian one anyway, see, it's a tricky one, for me it's like getting rid of another bit of history, the way I see the deal being done here is a sly backhander of a deal from britain to Canada to keep it in the commonwealth and not into the US or small republic hands.

Administoring the island might be less tricky now, so it shouldnt be TOO hard.
 
Hotshot
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Quote: Originally Posted by sine000

Quote: Originally Posted by Hamlet

Are the Turks and Caicos really all that far away? Compare the following distances.

Toronto to Vancouver: 3366 km
Toronto to Whitehorse: 4093 km
Toronto to Turks and Caicos: 2579 km

I mean as a country....HARD to rule from so far away....agree Daz_Hockey?
(like Canada and Britain)

Your response makes no sense, but I'm glad to see you now have a buddy.
 
Zzarchov
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I think they wouldn't really need our help, hell they probably don't even care about health care, they probably just want NAFTA.

It would be infinately easier to manage them than the arctic..but no one would suggest making Nunuvut an indepdant nation so we don't have to deal with them.

Carribean nations wanting to join Canada should be encouraged, we can create a stronger common market and a stronger nation in general. Hell, I'd even let Haiti join Canada if it wanted..just not nearly as quickly, it would need a helluva lot of work to keep that one from being a horrible disaster, but it still could be done after 10-15 years of improvement.
 
gc
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Quote: Originally Posted by athabaska

We can't go to the Caribbean now? Why would we want to pay for their health, education and so on? We'd just be setting ourselves up for future political issues. Canada already has too much diversity and multi this and multi that as it is.

question: Do you think the average Joe sixpack would benefit from this sun and surf?

Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about defending the north in Canada? We spend a lot of money there too, and there's probably a similar number of people living there. Does the average joe sixpack benefit from the north any more than from the caribbean?
 
tamarin
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Is this one of the bi-products of multiculturalism? Anyone can join Canada? Most days now it seems like a disease.
 
iARTthere4iam
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I think it is sad that some would suggest that Canada couldn't administer it. Aren't we big, rich Canada? I would support it, but do they want it?
How hard would it be? I haven't heard of them in the news at all. No famine, no war, no horrifying poverty. Sounds good, let's do it.
 
athabaska
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Out of curiosity,

how much do Canadians spend in Hawaii, The Grand Caymans, Jamaica, and other tropical resorts. With modern hotels and facilities how much would Americans spend in the "New" Turks and Calcos? Wouldn't it be a better thing for Canadians to spend their money "in Canada" so to speak? Like I said before, it's not going to happen anyway.

Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.
 
Zzarchov
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Canada's federal system with strong provincial powers is enticing to small nations who have trouble defending their national interests from the big fish in the sea in the same way the EU is. They give up their foriegn policy (which isn't much for some nations) and gain stability and and representation on the world stage.
 
#juan
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Athabaska wrote:
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Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.

I've been to Hawaii as well and as far as I'm concerned, I prefer Cacun or the other Mexican beach resorts. From Vancouver or Edmonton, or most major Canadian cities Cancun is a single, non-stop, direct flight. The Turks and Calcos would be no different. Hawaii is a direct flight from Vancouver. I don't know about Edmonton and points east.
 
athabaska
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The T and C's are a dot in the ocean. They aren't in the league of Hawaii or Mexican resorts. There is no room for any scale of development that would make a dent in Canadians going south. I've also been to the Yucatan and I go more for the surrounding hiking, history and more than for laying on a beach (which I never do). The T and C's are probably already an environmental disaster and don't need multiples more development to accomodate wealthy Canadians needing a tropical condo or villa.
 
Mogz
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This'll never happen, there are too many complications from bringing in a parcel of land so far removed from our borders, especially in the 21st Century.
 
#juan
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I've said about three times on this topic that the T & C joining Canada would never happen. The reasons are mainly political, not because there is no room, or whatever.



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Calberty
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Google is a great tool. There's references to these islands and Camnada. "There are 8 islands which combined are twice the size of Denman Island". I looked up Denman Island and it's a small island near Vancouver. It's hard to find but look near a town called Comox. For those out east think of an area 1/14th the size of PEI with 3 times the population density.
 
#juan
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On the other hand, Jamaica is two and a half times the 430 sq. km. of the T & C and has 2.7 million people compared with about 25,000 on the T & C. This is all a futile exercise because it won't happen anyway.
 

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