If one murders a policeman or some other member of the law,the penalties are stiffer than for killing an ordinary person. As the police are armed and trained to defend themselves,and we aren't,this policy should be reversed.
The Death Penalty
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Agreed. No man's life is more significant than another man's life, regardless of what school he went to, or what family he was born into.
I want to agree with both of you. However i believe the reason that "cop killers" are treated more harshly is to prevent further cop killings. It's a form of control.
To have killed a cop garners you a level of respect in jail like no other deed. If sentences were equal to a civilian there'd be no "control" No authority in being a police officer.
To have killed a cop garners you a level of respect in jail like no other deed. If sentences were equal to a civilian there'd be no "control" No authority in being a police officer.
I can see both sides of this as well. on the one hand our police are hired to defend our general populations and should be given some degree of respect if they warrent such , if a criminal kills a police officer then they show the lowest respect if any for our society and its values in general and should be delbt with as harshly as the law allows. On the other hand killing if a criminal kills anyone that is really just as wrong an action and if that person was unable to defend themselves it is as bad or mabey worse. If killing a policeman is considered to be a glorious crime amongst the criminal elements then we should be looking at some stiff penalties.
missile said:
This policy really is differentiating the different types of murders committed. To kill a "peace officer" is first degree murder.
That would include Police, or say the captain of a boat or a security guard. It is also first degree murder to commit a murder while engaged in committing another crime .e.g. robbing a bank and in the get away you pushed someone into traffic and they were killed by oncoming traffic.
And of course premeditated murder.
So if you shoot a police officer, and the bullet sails through the police officer and also kills the old lady 20 yards behind the cop....that’s two first degree murder charges, even though the old lady wasn't premeditated, and the intention wasn't there.
If it isn't first degree murder than it is second degree.
This is what I remember from law classes I took.
Democratically all men are held as equals, and as such, every murder is held equal as well. But I think democracy has been reduced to a mythology these days. In a society people tend to be judged by how much they contribute.
A police officer contributes more to society than a hobo, and in my view, more than nearly every other profession. A murder of a police officer can also in some ways be viewed as an attack on the moral fabric of society itself. Because of this, I feel that the penalities should be slightly harsher.
A police officer contributes more to society than a hobo, and in my view, more than nearly every other profession. A murder of a police officer can also in some ways be viewed as an attack on the moral fabric of society itself. Because of this, I feel that the penalities should be slightly harsher.
Re: RE: The Death Penalty
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Twila said:
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But what if the police officer is simply following the orders of a corrupt government he has been brain washed to obey? In that case, it is the hobo who is actually contributing more positivity to society.
Gordon J Torture said:
That's too absurd to even answer.... show me the hobo that puts his ass on the line for you, if called to.
putz.....
putz.....
The hobo does not need to put his ass "on the line" to bring more positivity to society than a cop who is enforcing the selfish agenda of a corrupt government. The fact he IS doing NOTHING is exactly what makes him more positive. Not commiting a crime which you call just, is far more virtuous than commiting it.
Gordon J Torture said:
Now what IS that colour that I'm thinking of.....? Not quite red, but not quite purple, either..... give me a minute now.
Oh, I don't know, but only a moron would attempt such subtlety as an insult directed towards the Iron Fist of Socialism.
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(or up well past your Bed-time, hope Mom and Dad don't find out...)
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GJT is not entirely out of line Tenpacks. Woodie Guthrie was considered to be a Hobo and did contribute in many ways to society.
It is not inconceivable that a family turfed out and now homeless...may need to rely and learn from someone who has lived without things or shelter.
A hobo may know CPR or the Heimlich Manoeuvre and could equally be responsible for saving anothers life in any given circumstance. ..
It can also be said that this duty falls with the job description of a police officer, even if he is corrupt.
It is not inconceivable that a family turfed out and now homeless...may need to rely and learn from someone who has lived without things or shelter.
A hobo may know CPR or the Heimlich Manoeuvre and could equally be responsible for saving anothers life in any given circumstance. ..
It can also be said that this duty falls with the job description of a police officer, even if he is corrupt.
Yes, however in the event of such corruption, it is highly likely his contribution to such corruption has caused either directly or indirectly, far more death and injuries than that which the Officer will even attempt to help with in his entire career.
amazing - we are more than willing to infer that a hobo is trained in the finer points of life-saving, simply because of his "station-in-life", and in the same breath a Police Officer is a miscreant, corrupt and a dupe, for the same reason....
Pretzel Logic.
Pretzel Logic.
Gordon J Torture said:
Absolutely not - just "out of whack"!!!
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For one to be so stereotypical, hurts himself the most.
It may not be a high percentage, but there are many "hobos" that have University Degrees, and many cops who have merely completed highschool before their short police training.