Belinda Stronach appointed to Cabinet

Ottawa — Christian activists have secured Conservative nominations in clusters of ridings from Vancouver to Halifax -- a political penetration that has occurred even as the party tries to distance itself from hard-line social conservatism.

At least three riding associations in Nova Scotia, four in British Columbia, and one in suburban Toronto have nominated candidates with ties to groups like Focus on the Family, a Christian organization that opposes same-sex marriage.

But organizers say many more will be on the ballot during the next federal election, a feat achieved by persuading parishioners, particularly new Canadians, to join the party and vote for recommended candidates.

Think maybe Belinda escaped the clutches of the Conservatives because she saw the party was being taken over by religious zealots?

And we'd have to invade the outer Hebrides.

Nobody cares if you are religious, it's people entering politics with the goal of inflicting their religion on others that is the problem.

The thing is that my viewpoints would cause you no difficulty. I wouldn't force you to get married to somebody of the same sex. I wouldn't force your wife to have an abortion. I wouldn't even force you to breathe the nice, clean air.

See...those provinces should put me in charge.

Nice attempt at dodging the issue, BTW. Perhaps you switch things up and try to Chrysler it for a change.

I know the truth about my air. What you have no clue about is how it got that way or what people are doing about it.

Well tell me then, I am interested in how Manitoba is one of the three highest emitters of lead pollution in North America, right behind Ontario and Quebec.

Why don't you try dealing with the issue at hand instead evading it. Your party is being taken over by religious zealots again. Their goal is to force their relgion on the rest of us. You support them. You support them taking rights away from the rest of us.

The Conservatives SSM policy would take away rights. You advocate that.

You also need to learn the difference between normal religious people, which there are plenty of on the left, and the freaks that your party invites in.

So now any religious person on the right is a freak?

And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

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So now any religious person on the right is a freak?

Nope, somebody seeking political office with the goal of forcing their religious beliefs on others is a freak.

How about somebody with the goal of forcing their socialistic and social engineering beliefs on others? Like the NDP? That is the real definition of freaks.

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And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Except the right to marry. Hmmm...that strikes me as a pretty basic right.

Well not exactly...there bluealberta...mostly is the fundies that are wacked out. I know plenty of church goers that give a rats ass if gays marry in a church or on queer as folk.

You only have one poll indicating that, Blue.

So now any religious person on the right is a freak? That is unbelievable, that arrogant attitude. It must be nice to be out on that island of perfection you are on. And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. All legal rights and benefits under a SS union are the same as that under a traditional marriage. But then you know that already, just as you know I support SS unions.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealbertaSo now any religious person on the right is a freak? That is unbelievable, that arrogant attitude. It must be nice to be out on that island of perfection you are on. And there are no legal rights or benefits denied anyone by maintaining the definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. All legal rights and benefits under a SS union are the same as that under a traditional marriage. But then you know that already, just as you know I support SS unions.I don't think that's what Derry meant, Bluealberta. In fact, his response clears that up. Anyone who forces their religion on another is a freak ... right, left or centre, in my book.
Denial of SSM is based in religion so it logically follows that it is forcing people to follow christian dogma.
It is not only Christians who oppose SSM.
It doesn't belong in politics. Your words about supporting SS unions are empty platitudes ... either we can get married, or we can't. That half measure is exclusionary and unacceptable. It's like saying women could vote in school elections but not in federal ones ... but thankfully we ended up with full right to vote.
I know you disagree with Derry, but please don't make it personal. If his posts are...

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Make sure you use the same standards on Derry then. You are somewhat selective at times about censoring posts, as we have discussed before.