BC elections

BC elections

insignificant

#31

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

"yeah we do, but what about the fact that the tuition fees have been doubled?"

There is no shortage of people trying to get into medical school! There's a line up a mile long. Once they become doctors, they will have more than enough money to pay back their student loans.

if you freeze tuition rates for ever, and you don't even make allowances for inflation, where is the money going to come from? Who's going to cover the cost of inflation?

Bigger Debt or More Taxes - you decide.

I went to a "technical school" after high school, and I can tell you that I had to cover 100% of the education costs. the taxpayers covered 0%. I worked the entire time I went to school so that I could pay my own way.

Why do so many people "EXPECT" the government should be paying their way through life?

I agree with government student loans and grants (and scholarships) for people who truly need the assistance.

mrmom2

#32

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Bigger debts ?

The olympics are going to make sure where in debt up to our eyeballs!Just go ask Athens and what for so the elite can go have a party and a new highway to get to their winter retreats

What a joke and the jokes on us average
joe taxpayer

insignificant

#33

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Was Expo 86 a mistake too? The initial outlay for that was millions!

I think 2010 is going to change this province for the better. BCers should put their entrepreneurial spirit to work and capitalize on this rare/exciting event!

mrmom2

#34

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Your a Liberal spin doctor you work for Campbell don't you

Friggin Neocon

insignificant

#35

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

This is quickly turning into an uncivalized discussion.

Just because we disagree on our political views does'nt make me a neoconservative - that is simply ridiculous - as for working for Campbell, currently I do not, however, I think I may volunteer during the election.

galianomama

#36

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

insig - like i say, i like to vote for a party that has 'humanity' in the forecast. so far, i haven't seen too much 'humanity' coming from the liberal side of things. i dunno, maybe they will change their ways, but i don't think so.

my impression was that a lot of university enrollment was down - therefore the qualifications have been dropped to enter. this was due to dropped enrollment during the last three years.

i was under the impression that there was a lot of funding 'cut' from the liberal government last term, those ministries that are more on the 'humane' side of things, i.e. teachers salary, room size, special needs for kids, social assistance, hospital funding, long term beds, basically anything to do with the environment, etc.

there was also a fairly hefty tax relief given to corporate tax payers. somehow, this doesn't feel like a real balance. whenever i have attended liberal fund raisers the same players are in the room, fat cats, not the average 'joe'. makes me kinda wonder where they are coming from - kinda like well i'm okay, and i am receiving tax benefits, and guess who will be paying for them.

mrmom2

#37

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Quote:

Exactly my point. Janitors/cleaning staff/support staff were forced to take cuts, and a lot of those positions have been contracted out to private companies in order to facilitate a raise for the skilled staff (doctors and nurses) 2 years ago.

Quote:

I think 2010 is going to change this province for the better. BCers should put their entrepreneurial spirit to work and capitalize on this rare/exciting event!

Quote:

Bigger Debt or More Taxes - you decide.

Thers was some more Quotes you said too These are right out of the liberal playbook Our local Libs are saying the exact same thing

Kind of fits right in with the fake calls into talk shows the Libs have been caught doing

insignificant

#38

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

If you want to have jobs in BC you need to entuice big business whether you like it or not. Provincial governments have to compete.

mrmom2

#39

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Okay Liberalcon :P Lets just sell the rest of the province of to big corporate crime syndicates so they can take all our tax dollars

insignificant

#40

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Fine - be unemployed then

mrmom2

#41

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

I'm just messing with you

What makes you think anything the Libs have done has improved our lot in life in BC?That tax cut I got didn't even cover the cost of renewing my drivers licsense oh thats right the Libs raised that fee 85% along with every other fee in the prov

galianomama

#42

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Quote:

If you want to have jobs in BC you need to entuice big business whether you like it or not. Provincial governments have to compete.

do we really need 'big business' in order to do this, at the expense of every person who makes bc their home. i dunno, i still have the gut feeling that the people who benefit from that type of thinking are those who have the most already.

insignificant

#43

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

"do we really need 'big business' in order to do this, at the expense of every person who makes bc their home. i dunno, i still have the gut feeling that the people who benefit from that type of thinking are those who have the most already."

I don't think you understand economics very well. It is the old UNION mentality that put us down the hole in the first place.

If you think you can sustain an economy such as ours without big business, you should go and take an econ 101 course!

galianomama

#44

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

i am talking about 'big business' in the sense of very large corporations here in bc which benefitted very well during the last four years in terms of tax write offs and reduced taxes. i am not talking about businesses which we all know we need to run an economy. i mean those businesses which tip the table where monies could be spent to help individuals they have gone to help the corporations.

i mean the forest industries, the mining industries which have paid back the liberals thru donations and made one heck of a lot of money in the last four years in return - by having less 'government interference' in their plans.

peapod

#45

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Hey mom lets play nice with sig he is one of us...living in lotusland.
Sig can you list or show any new job creations that the liberals have done since coming into power. What new business have they created? I do feel his policies on the enviroment will decrease our tourist trade. Many people come here for the beauty and the wilderness, not to see a mcdonalds in manning park. The commericalization of nature will not work, I feel this strongly and if you speak with any european tourist they will tell you the same thing.
Making a fast buck off nature might help the coffers, but in the long run it will only do more damage to the province. What are your thoughts on this.

insignificant

#46

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

well...lets not go wild here!

Here are the facts:

Since 2001: 200,000 new jobs - 97% of which are full-time positions.

Dec '04: Unemployment rate dropped to 6.1% - the lowest monthly rate since June 1981.

After-tax family income grew at five times the national average in 2002. In 2001, income grew at 4.7%, the largest increase in after-tax income in 20 years.

For the first time in almost seven years, B.C. is recording a net increase in inter-provincial migration.

The proportion of B.C.'s workforce making 16 dollars an hour or more is higher than any other province in Canada at 57.2%.

These are jobs created mainly in the private sector. Remember the NDP's way of creating jobs: increase the size of the BCGEU.

mrmom2

#47

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Quote:

After-tax family income grew at five times the national average in 2002. In 2001, income grew at 4.7%, the largest increase in after-tax income in 20 years.

I don't know where that came from but a poll of my kids school will tell you thats a lie

Nobodys income around here has grown like that and we are considered middle class.Maybe in Vans British propertys .The only ones who benifited from that tax cut were the rich just like the W's tax cut .Trickle down economics yea right !Thats the feeling taxpayers get from the goverment pissing all over us

Quote:

The proportion of B.C.'s workforce making 16 dollars an hour or more is higher than any other province in Canada at 57.2%.

Where are these jobs not in the interiormaybe the lower mainland !6 bucks an hour won't even pay the rent on house down there

Since 2001: 200,000 new jobs - 97% of which are full-time positions.
[/quote]

Quote:

Most of these jobs are in constuction soon as intrest rates go up there gone

galianomama

#48

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

you know, i always thought that government was in power to represent all the people....not just corporations.

Since 2001: 200,000 new jobs - 97% of which are full-time positions.

yeah, no doubt, seeing how the new minimum wage is $6 an hour.

Quote:

Dec '04: Unemployment rate dropped to 6.1% - the lowest monthly rate since June 1981.

well that's kinda weird. according to stats can the bc unemployment rate is higher than it has ever been since the mid 1980's - well above 7% with the interior reaching double digits. mind you, that is stats can. but then i don't have the ol' spin doctor to put a twist on stuff either.

Quote:

The proportion of B.C.'s workforce making 16 dollars an hour or more is higher than any other province in Canada at 57.2%.

but what about the fact that the bc workforce average use to be $17.80 and the alberta wage is $18.04? what happened there? mind you, the $17.80 was under the ndp government.......

[/quote]These are jobs created mainly in the private sector. Remember the NDP's way of creating jobs: increase the size of the BCGEU.

Quote:

so the liberals have managed to create quite a few 'private sectors' with hydro, health industry, long term care to name a few.

insignificant

#49

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

weve got the same argument going on in 2 forums here!

By the way

MARCH '04: STATS CAN UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR BC 2004 6.7% down 1.2% from 2003! Making us #4 in the country!

galianomama

#50

Re: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

yeah, i love talking about this stuff, it amazes me the spin that all sides can place on it BUT i have to go back to work.....so i will catch up later!

mrmom2

#51

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

We need an advisor to fold the two threads together

no1important

#52

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

or lock one of them.

Reverend Blair

#53

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Merging them is going to be confusing as heck.

Which one do you guys want locked? The other one has the poll, this one has more stats, I believe. Not really having followed BC politics this election, I can't really make the call myself.

insignificant

#54

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

I SAY KEEP THE ONE WITH THE POLL

mrmom2

#55

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Me too

Reverend Blair

#56

RE: BC elections

Apr 14th, 2005

Done.

Similar Threads

Municipal Elections
by Kreskin | Nov 15th, 2008

Municipal Elections
by missile | Apr 28th, 2008

The Canada Elections Act
by FiveParadox | Jan 18th, 2006

Elections Forum!
by Andem | Apr 4th, 2005

Ukrainian Elections
by Rick van Opbergen | Dec 4th, 2004