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#1Aug 5th, 2002
Dion says all should be bilingual



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Monday, August 05, 2002

FREDERICTON -- The federal minister of intergovernmental affairs says all provinces should become officially bilingual, like New Brunswick.

Stephane Dion has challenged the Ontario government to take the first step by making Ottawa bilingual. He said Monday if the capital of Canada was officially bilingual it would be good for everyone in the country. Dion said Quebec would become more open to English if the rest of the country embraced French.

The minister was in Fredericton on Monday for a ceremony as New Brunswick's new Official Languages Act became law. The 33-year-old act has been revamped to bring it in line with the Charter of Rights.

The federal government has contributed $1 million to help translate municipal bylaws in the province into both English and French.

© Copyright 2002 The Canadian Press
 
Andem
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Aug 5th, 2002
[quote]Stephane Dion has challenged the Ontario government to take the first step by making Ottawa bilingual. He said Monday if the capital of Canada was officially bilingual it would be good for everyone in the country. Dion said Quebec would become more open to English if the rest of the country embraced French.[/qoute]

Quebec has never been open to anybody, not even the real french from france. This guy is trying to say Alberta should embrace french? And as far as I know, Ottawa is bilingual! Signs are in English and French and the whole city speaks one or the other (except for the chinese). Why should Ontario become bilingual? Quebec is french only, we should be English only.

Until Quebec opens up to the rest of Canada, and allows the use of English there, they can screw off. Im not, for the life of me, embracing French. I speak it enough, and thats the end of it. Our province should NOT go bilingual. We're as bilingual as were going to get, and to pass laws is a waste of tax payers` money.

Why dont they impose this on Alberta or BC and see what they get back in their face. That's my opinion.
 
Shmad
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Aug 5th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by Andem

Why dont they impose this on Alberta or BC and see what they get back in their face. That's my opinion.

They'd probably get some rednecks out of Alberta arming themselves and shooting whoever tries to force it upon them
 
Andem
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Aug 5th, 2002
Definately, I could see a revolution starting from this in Alberta, crazy rednecks!
 
Shmad
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 5th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by Andem

Definately, I could see a revolution starting from this in Alberta, crazy rednecks!

Maybe not so much as a bad thing, I mean look what direction we're headed in as it is. :P
 
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Aug 5th, 2002
Hey now, not everyone from BC and Alberta is a redneck! Though you are correct on the fact that this Dion nonsense will NOT fly in the West. Here in the West it is a general feeling that the whole country already revolves Quebec, Ontario and Toronto. There is much dislike towards the double standard that now exists in Quebec in regards to the language laws.

The West would be better served with Cantonese or Punjabi or Urdu as the official second language than French. By far more people speak one of the above than speak french as their first language. With all that said, English outside of Quebec is and should remain the official language.

Quebec and its Liberal policy makers should understand that many Canadians can see the need for Quebec inside of Canada, and the need for Quebec to have some avenues open to them to preserve their culture (let us not forget they too are under attack from the US and Europeans) but to force their way of life onto other Canadians without even asking us is just absurd.

This stupid move is a vote getter in the east and continued distrust and loathing from the West. Dion and cronies dont much care for us out here in the West because we see the Liberals for what they are; sellouts, crooks, thiefs, and traitors to the average Canadian.
 
Shmad
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Aug 5th, 2002
Lol I didnt mean to imply EVERYONE in BC and Alberta is a Redneck, Im quite the opposite of that.

Although there are a vast number of rednecks around this province & especially Alberta :P
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 5th, 2002
being a bilingual all across the country is not a bad plan, i mean our whole country is already bilingual so what makes it so different to make provinces bilingual with french! maybe more of our country will learn more french theres nothing wrong with that!
 
Shmad
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Aug 5th, 2002
I dont agree with your Post Mr. Anonymous. Go to Quebec, everything is French, in most cases you are hard pressed to find someone who will speak to you in English, let alone the signage situation which I wont even get into right now.

If everyone else must be forced to read/speak french while in Quebec, the Quebecers should be forced to read english and speak english while in any other province. Its only fair.
 
Andem
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Aug 7th, 2002
I 100% agree with Shmad... Thats exactly how it is. I've travelled in Quebec before and they just hate people who speak english with a passion. They dont even like serving you if you dont speak french... So to hell with them, they can keep their french and keep it in their own province. However, I do agree with them retaining their culture through whatever methods they like. The signage issue makes sense to me, and i have no problem with it in Quebec. And only in Quebec.
 
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 13th, 2002
I realy disagree with you, Andem.
I'm from Québec. I speak English (at lease I try) and I have worked in restaurant for years. The only way people serve you badly is when your arrogant.
Exemple: you know your are in a French place and you don't event salute in French. Even the American know some words in French. But Canadians are arrogant with French and think they don't need to speak to us in our langage. It's disgusting.
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 14th, 2002
That's because we kicked your ancestors ass and let them live in this country, get used to it
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 18th, 2002
Yeah I know, it's a shame for us to live in this poor USA copy...
 
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 18th, 2002
who cares about provinces all being bilingual we already are SEX is the international language baby!
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 19th, 2002
canada is already a bilingual country, eh?
 
Shmad
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 19th, 2002
Canada has two official languages, that doesnt mean the entire country is bilingual.
 
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 19th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by Shmad

Canada has two official languages, that doesnt mean the entire country is bilingual.

Thats right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And we dont really want the entire country to be bi-lingual thas what makes us unique. Each province has a major difference from the one next to it, let it be language or something else, it makes us unique. I see no need for me to be doing training excersizes and yelling out the commands in french and english since our base is in Alberta.

Its a nice language to learn though, if you can find someone tolerant enough to teach you
 
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Aug 20th, 2002
I agree 100% with military intelligence. Every province has the choice and it should not be imposed on by the government of Canada, which is pretty much french!
 
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Aug 20th, 2002
"Every province has the choice and it should not be imposed on by the government of Canada, which is pretty much french!"

Sorry Andem, it's not true. I work for the federal governemnt for years and I have to call everywhere in each province of Canada and it's very unusual when someone is able to speak to me in french. Only New-Brunswick and Saskatchewan do it sometimes... which is very surprising.

I have conclude that Canada has one official langage (English). Québec have it's own (French).
 
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 20th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by de-Gaules

"Every province has the choice and it should not be imposed on by the government of Canada, which is pretty much french!"

Sorry Andem, it's not true. I work for the federal governemnt for years and I have to call everywhere in each province of Canada and it's very unusual when someone is able to speak to me in french. Only New-Brunswick and Saskatchewan do it sometimes... which is very surprising.

I have conclude that Canada has one official langage (English). Québec have it's own (French).

Just because not EVERYONE knows or wants to learn french does not mean it is not an official language. Theres a lot of people outside of Quebec who speak it, although english is easier for most of them.
 
de-Gaules
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 20th, 2002
Yes, there is a lot of french who live outside Québec...

Less than 4%. And half of them are in New-Brunswick...
So a «big» 2% of french canadians are making your sentence valid: canada have two official languages.

Come on, everybody know it is not true. If I go to BC or somewhere else, can somebody serve me in french? I don't think so. And it's ok, there is no problem with that. We speak English anyway.

Québec governement is actually making a lot of pression to bring this 2%back to Québec. After that, who will be enought courageous to say that Canada have two official languages?
 
czardogs
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Aug 20th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by de-Gaules

Yes, there is a lot of french who live outside Québec...

Less than 4%. And half of them are in New-Brunswick...
So a «big» 2% of french canadians are making your sentence valid: canada have two official languages.

Come on, everybody know it is not true. If I go to BC or somewhere else, can somebody serve me in french? I don't think so. And it's ok, there is no problem with that. We speak English anyway.

Québec governement is actually making a lot of pression to bring this 2%back to Québec. After that, who will be enought courageous to say that Canada have two official languages?

You are so oh wrong de Guales. In BC anyway, we HAVE to learn french in school upto grade 10 if I remember right. Everyone knows some french, it is just up to them as individuals if they want to go on past grade 10 with it. Many do and even take it in college or university. To become a police officer in BC they want a second language, first choice being French. BC also has immigrants from French speaking countries from the rest of the world. Every food, and consumer product has both french and english labeling on it also.

So if you could pull the shroud of " speak my language or we will seperate whin" from your eyes you would see Canada IS already bi-lingual.
 
de-Gaules
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 20th, 2002
So if you could pull the shroud of " speak my language or we will seperate whin" from your eyes you would see Canada IS already bi-lingual.[/quote]

Très bien mon ami.
Parlons en français dans ce cas... que je «vois» que le Canada est un pays bilingue...
 
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Aug 20th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by de-Gaules

So if you could pull the shroud of " speak my language or we will seperate whin" from your eyes you would see Canada IS already bi-lingual.

Très bien mon ami.
Parlons en français dans ce cas... que je «vois» que le Canada est un pays bilingue...[/quote]

Vous remercier pour le voir cela.
Désolé pour la chose de whin. Le besoin de québec et Canada eachother de.

Instead of fighting eachother we should fight off the Americans.
 
Andem
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 21st, 2002
Quote:

Instead of fighting eachother we should fight off the Americans.

Good point
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Aug 21st, 2002
You mean, let's change the subject... héhé.

As a french canadian, I am not that concerned about American suprematy. I think you guys are more in danger of assimilation than us.

You have to stop listening American TV show. Create your own. I eared that on your top 20 TV shows, 19 are Americans. Is that true? If so, what are you waiting for! TV is a first mirror of the society... That statistic talk a lot by herself.

Take exemple Québec, and it's not arrogance or something. On our top 20, 18 are from Québec in french. There is some TV show that had more than 3 millions spectators (half of the Qc). And of course, it was TV show from Québec and in French. That never happened in Canada. Take control of your television. Hurry!
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Sep 27th, 2002
Parlez vous Canajun, eh?
French in Quebec, English everywhere else. That's what I think.
You can't impose this kind of thing on people. Why else do they have the sign police in Quebec? It's a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money.
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Sep 27th, 2002
French in Québec. English everywhere else.
That is the perfect way of thinking... but English are more and more intrusive in Québec. We have to do something before they think they are at home in our French paradise.
 
Anonymous
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Sep 27th, 2002
Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous

French in Québec. English everywhere else.
That is the perfect way of thinking... but English are more and more intrusive in Québec. We have to do something before they think they are at home in our French paradise.

What a joke. Tell that to the indians. they were there before you and just like the indians you french were not only fairly but soundly beaten by the british. just be glad we left quebec to you little whiners.
 
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Re: Bilingual in Canada

Mar 12th, 2003
Ahh, this thread has not been touched upon in a while.

As you all know, this is rubbish. Bilingual provinces? hahaha, there's only one of those in Canada.
 

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