Harper can win in 2015

B00Mer

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Question:

Can Stephen Harper win the next federal election?

Answer:
Yes. Absolutely.

He will win as long as the economy — that's jobs, employment security, pensions, health insurance, the whole ball of wax — remains the pre-eminent bundle of issues, or fears, in the minds of Canadian voters. And as long as Harper can maintain his message that, thanks to sound Harper policies, Canada is performing outperforming every other significant country in the whole wide world, including the United States — and that, without Harper's wise leadership, Canada would be a basket case, like Greece.

If he can continue to sell that message — and we know from recent history that the Conservatives are prepared to spend bottomless amounts of their supporters' and taxpayers' money to sell their messages — the rest won't matter.

The "rest" includes: his government's disregard for the environment; its indifference to the widening gap between rich and poor; its disdain for international organizations, especially the UN (serves them right for not giving Canada that Security Council seat, doesn't it?); his penchant for lecturing countries that are not blessed with abundant resources like the Alberta tar (oops, sorry, oil) sands. Not to mention the Tories' contemptuous disregard for Parliament, which no one outside the Ottawa bubble seems to care about.

But, you say, what about the polls? Don't they show Harper's party in a dead heat with Thomas Mulcair's New Democrats? Yes, they do. But the election is not due until October 2015. When it comes to forecasting an election more than two and a half years in the future, today's polls today are as useful as the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Older readers (or their parents) may recall the early 1970s. Pierre Trudeau was at the mid-point of his first mandate and his universe was unfolding badly. The Conservatives under Robert Stanfield were closing in on the Liberals in the polls by October 1970, when the FLQ kidnapped James Cross and Pierre Laporte and the Trudeau government responded by proclaiming the War Measures Act.

That show of strong leadership turned the polls on their head. Within weeks, the government's approval rating shot up to an unheard-of 87 per cent, and Liberals opened a lead of nearly 40 points in popular support. They could have won every seat in Parliament. But the lead evaporated. When Canadians went to the polls, two years after the War Measures Act, the Liberals barely survived, taking 109 seats to the Conservatives' 107.

So ignore the polls for now. They will become important as the election draws nearer.

One big difference between 1972 and now is the evolution of negative advertising. The attack ad has become a deadly weapon in the hands of the government party. If the New Democrats (or, just conceivably, the Liberals) are within, say, six or eight points of the Conservatives by the late spring of 2015, expect a tsunami of Tory attack ads that will make the vicious assault on Michael Ignatieff in the lead-up to the 2011 election look like a nursery-school exercise.

In the 1992 U.S. presidential election, Democratic party strategist James Carville framed the issue for Bill Clinton in four celebrated words: "It's the economy, stupid!" If "the economy, stupid" is still the issue in Canada in 2015, Harper will win re-election.

Canadians will re-elect him for a fourth term without any great enthusiasm. Canadians have never really warmed to this prime minister. Chances are they never will. He is too cold, too distant, perhaps too mean, to encourage affection. He is the exemplar of the cult of non-personality, the champion of charisma-free politics in an era when, sadly, anti-intellectualism, rules the national stage.

But he can win — and I think he will win — as long as he commands the one issue that concerns most Canadians: the economy. It's not going to be a whole lot of fun. But Mackenzie King was no fun, either, and he ruled Canada off and on for a total of 22 years.
 

petros

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Now well see the Socialist hand outs to buy the next election. ALL ruling parties do it in the 2 years running up to an election.

Harper has been a top tier Socialist for the past 6 years, now comes the gravy.

What are you hoping he'll blow your tax money on to buy your soul?

A box of Hamburger Helper?
 

Angstrom

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Most of Ontario looks like this.
Con 15 000
Liberal 12 000
NDP 8 000

Unite the left and its lights out for the Tories.
Can Harper win next election?

Yes

If the left Stay's devided..... Pure and simply.
 

WLDB

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I didnt have to read the article. The title of the thread is an obvious truth, its like saying "I breathe air."
 

Cobalt_Kid

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The next few years is going to test the conservative version of reality versus the mainstream scientific one, who's do think will bear out.

On the climate change issue alone Canadians have already been footing a multi-billion dollar bill, this will likely keep increasing.

Throw in how Harper likes to walk over everybody in his rush to being ruler of us all and it's much more likely Canadians will burn him in effigy in 2015 rather than vote for his party.

You can only pretend for so long and the conservatives time is just about up.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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The next few years is going to test the conservative version of reality versus the mainstream scientific one, who's do think will bear out.

On the climate change issue alone Canadians have already been footing a multi-billion dollar bill, this will likely keep increasing.

Throw in how Harper likes to walk over everybody in his rush to being ruler of us all and it's much more likely Canadians will burn him in effigy in 2015 rather than vote for his party.

You can only pretend for so long and the conservatives time is just about up.

God I almost wish your little GQ Prancy Boy Prince would win so we could avoid the board being spammed.
 

Mowich

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The next few years is going to test the conservative version of reality versus the mainstream scientific one, who's do think will bear out.

On the climate change issue alone Canadians have already been footing a multi-billion dollar bill, this will likely keep increasing.

Throw in how Harper likes to walk over everybody in his rush to being ruler of us all and it's much more likely Canadians will burn him in effigy in 2015 rather than vote for his party.

You can only pretend for so long and the conservatives time is just about up.

Were I you, kid............I would not be holding my breath.
 

Trex

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As it stands right now I would suggest that a Harper led majority Conservative Government after the next Federal election is highly likely.
If the Con's become bogged down in issues involving scandal or poor governance and the Lib's run a perfect campaign I could see the Con's falling to a minority Government.
But thats about it.

The never ending horror show that is the Liberal Government of Ontario is going to sway Ontario voters federally.
The Dip's will hang on to a bunch of seats in Quebec thus splitting the center left in that Province.
And in a couple of years the Canadian economy will start to gain a little steam and Harpo will get the credit for it.

And the recent Provincial elections in both BC and Alberta show how much voters tend to favour the encumbent no matter what the pollsters predict.

I think we may be stuck with Harper as the PM until he finally decides he doesn't want to do it anymore.
 

JamesBondo

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If you consider the degree of liberal corruption this far into the Cretien Dynasty, the conservatives are doing a bang up job.
 

WLDB

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If you consider the degree of liberal corruption this far into the Cretien Dynasty, the conservatives are doing a bang up job.

"Lesser of two evils" isnt a very good argument. It should be accepted by no one. Not "oh you're not as bad as the last guy so we'll give you a pass."
 

winniethepooh

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I believe he can win the next election, but he's going to have to step up his game. Liberal victories in Ontario, Alberta and now BC show that the Liberals are trending, IMO mainly because too many people think Justin Trudeau is the next Messiah who lead them to the promised land.