Contains Nudity?

karrie

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I watched a show the other day, the disclaimer for which warned...

"This show contains scenes of nudity, parental discretion is advised."

Okay... here we go... hold onto your hats, we might see some skin. *gasp*

I was mortified when the 'nudity' arrived, in the form of a strangled, naked body lying in alleyway.

Can anyone explain to me what is the matter with society when we warn of nudity, but we don't warn about the images of strangled corpses? Which is more shocking and potentially objectionable? Shouldn't it be the fact that it's a dead person? Not the fact that it's a NAKED dead person?
 

Francis2004

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I watched a show the other day, the disclaimer for which warned...

"This show contains scenes of nudity, parental discretion is advised."

Okay... here we go... hold onto your hats, we might see some skin. *gasp*

I was mortified when the 'nudity' arrived, in the form of a strangled, naked body lying in alleyway.

Can anyone explain to me what is the matter with society when we warn of nudity, but we don't warn about the images of strangled corpses? Which is more shocking and potentially objectionable? Shouldn't it be the fact that it's a dead person? Not the fact that it's a NAKED dead person?

Damn you.. The topic attracted me to the topic all to find a morbid subject matter.. :angryfire:

I wanted to see Skin damn it, alive one at that as I am not that desperate.. :p
 

VanIsle

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I watched a show the other day, the disclaimer for which warned...

"This show contains scenes of nudity, parental discretion is advised."

Okay... here we go... hold onto your hats, we might see some skin. *gasp*

I was mortified when the 'nudity' arrived, in the form of a strangled, naked body lying in alleyway.

Can anyone explain to me what is the matter with society when we warn of nudity, but we don't warn about the images of strangled corpses? Which is more shocking and potentially objectionable? Shouldn't it be the fact that it's a dead person? Not the fact that it's a NAKED dead person?
We fail as a society. We accept horrible language as everyday, we allow children to play violent video games, we show every type of sex on TV or the movies. Today, my grandkids were watching a TV show they "said" they were allowed to watch. They usually watch in the bedroom but today they were out in the frontroom with me. The kids are 6 & 9 yrs. old. The show was about kids kissing. The kids appeared to be about 12. I was busy on my computer and not paying much attention at first but something in the conversation caught my attention and I looked up. I said to them that I did not believe they were really allowed to watch that show to which they owned up that they were not. They certainly were glued to the set though. Everything begins somewhere. I think the broad acceptance of foul language by both men and women and the usuage of it everywhere loosened rules of all kinds. Things that once shocked us no longer do. We curse, we're rude, we speak our minds regardless of how it may affect the person we are speaking to never bearing in mind that they have feelings. Children young and grown, no longer respect their parents or others. How can they? They don't see us show respect for others. They say the world is changing and younger people are getting nicer. I hope they are. I hope we all get nicer and more caring and that we pay more attention to what we and our kids watch on TV. I hope people stop lying for their children and teach them to own up to responsibility. I hope we also learn to dress nice again and show self respect.
 
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VanIsle

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Damn you.. The topic attracted me to the topic all to find a morbid subject matter.. :angryfire:

I wanted to see Skin damn it, alive one at that as I am not that desperate.. :p
You live in Surrey! Take a drive. You shouldn't have to go far to see what you want. It's a big city or at least it's very near the "big city". :p;-)
 

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Part of the issue stems from the fact that our "rating" system for TV, movies, video games, etc is closely modeled after, if not entirely based upon the US system where they tend to be pretty uptight about nudity and sexuality. My fiancee (who is an American) and I have shaken our heads many times about the fact that so many people (especially in the US) get riled by a flash of a breast or a butt and don't blink at the violence shown in so much of the media. Its a wierd situation where something artistic can be rated more sternly than something that glorifies the worst aspects of humanity...
 

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Can anyone explain to me what is the matter with society when we warn of nudity, but we don't warn about the images of strangled corpses?

Nudity is looked down upon because the majority of men are perverted. Any glimpse of nudity makes men think of Japanese girls exchanging bodily fluids and then they get paranoid that others know they enjoy dark fantasy. That paranoia feeling gets linked with nudity, and its found detestable.

That, and tv networks are probably just trying to cover their ass from the one idiot who might complain.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Yeah, the warning should have been about scenes of murder or violence, not nudity, but the perversity of this society's "entertainments" seems to trivialize violent death. You can see a dozen murders on tv any day, but gawd forbid somebody should see a naked human for half a second. Pretty skewed idea about what's normal in real life. Most of us do get to see at least a few naked people in real life, most people do have sex in real life, that's normal human experience, but you can't freely depict that reality on tv and in movies. But you can depict killing people by the dozen without getting an X rating.

I don't really know what the matter is when we warn people about scenes of nudity without mentioning that it's a strangled naked corpse, but I tend to think it's a function of all the uptight Protestants who settled this nation and our southern neighbour. Europeans are generally much more casual about nudity, and I think they've got it right.
 

Francis2004

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I watched a show the other day, the disclaimer for which warned...

"This show contains scenes of nudity, parental discretion is advised."

Okay... here we go... hold onto your hats, we might see some skin. *gasp*

I was mortified when the 'nudity' arrived, in the form of a strangled, naked body lying in alleyway.

Can anyone explain to me what is the matter with society when we warn of nudity, but we don't warn about the images of strangled corpses? Which is more shocking and potentially objectionable? Shouldn't it be the fact that it's a dead person? Not the fact that it's a NAKED dead person?

Karrie, I just caught Alley comment an was wondering if this was indeed a Japanese Amine ?

These are extremely violent, sexually explicit and by far do not follow North American Ratings in Canada. My 17 year old daughter watches these all the time and reads the books and although I have watched very little of them, some of it makes Stephen King and XXX shows seem tame.. Homosexuality, Bisexuality and many other topics totally tabu in North America are discussed like everyday topics. From the young to older shows..
 

VanIsle

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Yeah, the warning should have been about scenes of murder or violence, not nudity, but the perversity of this society's "entertainments" seems to trivialize violent death. You can see a dozen murders on tv any day, but gawd forbid somebody should see a naked human for half a second. Pretty skewed idea about what's normal in real life. Most of us do get to see at least a few naked people in real life, most people do have sex in real life, that's normal human experience, but you can't freely depict that reality on tv and in movies. But you can depict killing people by the dozen without getting an X rating.

I don't really know what the matter is when we warn people about scenes of nudity without mentioning that it's a strangled naked corpse, but I tend to think it's a function of all the uptight Protestants who settled this nation and our southern neighbour. Europeans are generally much more casual about nudity, and I think they've got it right.
Why?
 

karrie

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The MAJORITY is perverted!? How can you possibly justify such a statement?

I think it falls into the same category as feeling that nudity is something to be warned about... sexual thought is something to be ashamed about in the minds of some people, a 'perversion' despite the fact that 'majority' and 'perversion' kind of exclude one another, no?

Frankly, my husband proudly tells me what's on his mind, when it's on his mind, and while I've jokingly called him a pervert, I think it's healthy to think of sex.
 

In Between Man

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The MAJORITY is perverted!? How can you possibly justify such a statement?

Not being an expert on human behavior by any means, maybe majority is an exaggeration. But it seems to me that the male mind would rather have sex with a jar of peanut butter that hold it in and try not to think about it.

So I guess what I'm asking, and would like to know is: Are men more guilty of needing sexual release in a pure physical sense, or are we more guilty of lust, fantasying about sex. Either way, there is something in the male mind that is certainly hard to control.
 

karrie

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Not being an expert on human behavior by any means, maybe majority is an exaggeration. But it seems to me that the male mind would rather have sex with a jar of peanut butter that hold it in and try not to think about it.

So I guess what I'm asking, and would like to know is: Are men more guilty of needing sexual release in a pure physical sense, or are we more guilty of lust, fantasying about sex. Either way, there is something in the male mind that is certainly hard to control.

I believe it's called testosterone, and it's a pretty widely documented fact that men are wired to want orgasm. Plain and simple. I don't think they're 'guilty' of it, 'perverted', or wrong in any way to be what they are. To me it's just as ridiculous to think that men are flawed because they think about sex, as it is to think that women are flawed because they think about having babies. It's wiring.
 

Francis2004

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no francis, anime had nothing to do with my OP. lol.

Hey you would be amazed how many people attend / watch these things.. Minimum age for most Amine conventions is 18+ in Canada.. 8O

And they dress like Zena with little to no clothes at UBC.. Me wonders how many a baby was concieved there :|
 

In Between Man

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I believe it's called testosterone, and it's a pretty widely documented fact that men are wired to want orgasm. Plain and simple. I don't think they're 'guilty' of it, 'perverted', or wrong in any way to be what they are. To me it's just as ridiculous to think that men are flawed because they think about sex, as it is to think that women are flawed because they think about having babies. It's wiring.

Right, that's technically what's going on. We are producing testosterone, but men are still guilty of lustful thoughts. Ever seen Dateline's to catch a predator?
 
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VanIsle

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Right, that's technically what's going on. We are producing testosterone, but men are still guilty of lustful thoughts. Ever seen Dateline's to catch a predator?
LOL. Alley, I think that the production of testosterone produces lustful thoughts and it's not just men who have at least some lustful thinking.
 

Cliffy

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Generally speaking, North Americans are up tight and sexually repressed compared to Europeans and that is what causes a warped sexual response to nudity. It seems that Europe has moved on while North Americans (over 40) are stuck in the Victorian era, sexually at least.