#181
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
You recognize that number? 
Deep Space
#182
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
I'd guess about 10^-43 seconds.
Answer
The Planck length is the scale at which classical ideas about gravity and space-time cease to be valid, and quantum effects dominate. This is the ‘quantum of length’, the smallest measurement of length with any meaning.
And roughly equal to 1.6 x 10-35 m or about 10-20 times the size of a proton.
The Planck time is the time it would take a photon travelling at the speed of light to across a distance equal to the Planck length. This is the ‘quantum of time’, the smallest measurement of time that has any meaning, and is equal to 10-43 seconds. No smaller division of time has any meaning. With in the framework of the laws of physics as we understand them today, we can say only that the universe came into existence when it already had an age of 10-43 seconds.
Good day Dexter, thank you for your great knowledgeable contribution. That is so fast to put this universe in place in such a small measurement of time.
#183
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009
NASA - Voyager Enters Solar System's Final Frontier
Image Right:The Voyagers are identical but on different flight paths. Voyager 1 is about 8.7 billion miles from the Sun and traveling at a speed of 3.6 AU per year while Voyager 2 is about 6.5 billion miles away and moving at about 3.3 AU per year. One 'AU' equals the distance between the Sun and Earth, or 93 million miles. In July 2004 scientists used Voyagers to track a solar blast to the edges of the solar system. Credit: NASA/Walt Feimer
#184
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009
Again Socrates great pics and info..Outta this world!..lol...I Always check here 1st for the best of space ..
Over and out there from here...
Over and out there from here...
#185
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
Great day to you Green Fish, oh it is as you say out of this world, Again Socrates great pics and info..Outta this world!..lol...I Always check here 1st for the best of space ..
Over and out there from here...
I wish I would be able to meet an extraterrestrial being in this lifetime.
#186
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009
Socrates there are many Aliens here .lol
Cheers to all us aliens on this special/1 of a kind/yet lonely planet.(so far).
Glad to be here...
There is life out there...I just know it!
P.E.U..
Person/earth/Universe
Amazing !
Cheers to all us aliens on this special/1 of a kind/yet lonely planet.(so far).
Glad to be here...
There is life out there...I just know it!
P.E.U..
Person/earth/Universe
Amazing !
#187
Re: Deep Space
Jun 10th, 2009
Especially when we see all around us the brilliant duplication of color and objects. If our solar system exists because of our sun, 200 Billion stars in the Milky Way alone the answer is yes, as you acknowledge how can we be the only life amongst 200 billion stars with in the Milky Way, which is only representative of a small fraction of 47 Billion light years Universe?.
Timothy Leary before he died he asked that his remains will be burned and the ashes spread out in space.
Dr. TIMOTHY LEARY
60'S LSD GURU, SCIENTIST, AUTHOR, PHILOSOPHER, COMPUTER SOFTWARE GENIUS, PROFESSOR OF ORIGINAL THOUGHT
One afternoon, his assistant, Vicki Marshal, and I asked him what he wanted to do with his body. He said that he wanted to be cremated, and that he wanted me to get his ashes into space. I've accepted this mission, with the joy he expressed as he ordered it. An essence of Timothy's ashes will be launched on board the Pegasus rocket, organized by the first entrepreneurial space burial company in Houston, Texas, Celestis, Inc., in late September or in October, from Vandenberg Air Force Base. (The entire fee for space burial is only $4800.) Timothy was thrilled to hear that he will be launched along with other space pioneers including Gene Rodenberry, creator of "Star Trek," Dr. Gerard O'Neill, author of "The High Frontier" and physist at Princeton University who designed fabulous space stations and who educated us about the mass driver which can mine the moon and asteroids, and Todd Hauley, of the International Space University.
Timothy Leary before he died he asked that his remains will be burned and the ashes spread out in space.
Dr. TIMOTHY LEARY
60'S LSD GURU, SCIENTIST, AUTHOR, PHILOSOPHER, COMPUTER SOFTWARE GENIUS, PROFESSOR OF ORIGINAL THOUGHT
One afternoon, his assistant, Vicki Marshal, and I asked him what he wanted to do with his body. He said that he wanted to be cremated, and that he wanted me to get his ashes into space. I've accepted this mission, with the joy he expressed as he ordered it. An essence of Timothy's ashes will be launched on board the Pegasus rocket, organized by the first entrepreneurial space burial company in Houston, Texas, Celestis, Inc., in late September or in October, from Vandenberg Air Force Base. (The entire fee for space burial is only $4800.) Timothy was thrilled to hear that he will be launched along with other space pioneers including Gene Rodenberry, creator of "Star Trek," Dr. Gerard O'Neill, author of "The High Frontier" and physist at Princeton University who designed fabulous space stations and who educated us about the mass driver which can mine the moon and asteroids, and Todd Hauley, of the International Space University.
YouTube - Timothy Leary on LSD Dying Church Internet etc 1 of 2
Last edited by Socrates the Greek; Jun 10th, 2009 at 05:36 PM..
#188
Re: Deep Space
Jun 11th, 2009
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
During the last decade cosmology/astronomy has become increasingly friendly to the Creator model. Discoveries about the origin of the Big Bang as well as the requirements for life on a planet like earth reveal more and more the hand of a Creator and make it less and less likely this could all have happened by mere chance. This chapter will investigate the possible cause of the Big Bang and the fine tuning of the universe towards life.
☼ Exhibit #1: How Could the Big Bang Happen?
The scientific community has made a lot of claims that 15-20 billion years ago some hard-to-define event, the Big Bang, started time, gave us spatial dimensions (length, width, height) and initiated the universe. Over time this model has been refined to explain how subsequently stars and galaxies, our own galaxy the Milky Way, our solar system, and our home planet earth were formed.
However, it intrigues me how little attention is given to the question: why did this Big Bang happen? How could it happen? Before the Big Bang there was nothing; no time/space, no universe, no energy, no matter. Then boom, suddenly all the energy and matter required to develop into our universe “pops” into existence. How can that be?
Assuming this would happen independently of an outside force such as a Creator directly violates one of the best proved and observed natural laws of science: the law of preservation of energy (or matter), technically known as the First Law of Thermodynamics. This principle states:
“Within a closed system, during any transformation the net energy increase or decrease is zero.”
Windmill Ministries - Christian Apologetics
During the last decade cosmology/astronomy has become increasingly friendly to the Creator model. Discoveries about the origin of the Big Bang as well as the requirements for life on a planet like earth reveal more and more the hand of a Creator and make it less and less likely this could all have happened by mere chance. This chapter will investigate the possible cause of the Big Bang and the fine tuning of the universe towards life.
☼ Exhibit #1: How Could the Big Bang Happen?
The scientific community has made a lot of claims that 15-20 billion years ago some hard-to-define event, the Big Bang, started time, gave us spatial dimensions (length, width, height) and initiated the universe. Over time this model has been refined to explain how subsequently stars and galaxies, our own galaxy the Milky Way, our solar system, and our home planet earth were formed.
However, it intrigues me how little attention is given to the question: why did this Big Bang happen? How could it happen? Before the Big Bang there was nothing; no time/space, no universe, no energy, no matter. Then boom, suddenly all the energy and matter required to develop into our universe “pops” into existence. How can that be?
Assuming this would happen independently of an outside force such as a Creator directly violates one of the best proved and observed natural laws of science: the law of preservation of energy (or matter), technically known as the First Law of Thermodynamics. This principle states:
“Within a closed system, during any transformation the net energy increase or decrease is zero.”
Windmill Ministries - Christian Apologetics
#190
Re: Deep Space
Jun 11th, 2009
THE BIG BANG
GLOSSARY
Baryons-- common particles including photons and neutrinos created at approximately 10^-33 seconds after the Big Bang
Deuterium-- a heavy isotope of hyrogen containing on proton and one neutron
Hadrons-- composite particles such as protons and neutrons forming after the temperature drops to 300 MeV
Leptons-- light particles existing with hadros including electrons, neutrinos and photons
Red Shift-- shift toward the red in the spectra of light reaching us from the stars in distant galaxies
Tritium-- transitional element between deuterium and the formation of a helium nucleus
Where did the water come from?
GLOSSARY
Baryons-- common particles including photons and neutrinos created at approximately 10^-33 seconds after the Big Bang
Deuterium-- a heavy isotope of hyrogen containing on proton and one neutron
Hadrons-- composite particles such as protons and neutrons forming after the temperature drops to 300 MeV
Leptons-- light particles existing with hadros including electrons, neutrinos and photons
Red Shift-- shift toward the red in the spectra of light reaching us from the stars in distant galaxies
Tritium-- transitional element between deuterium and the formation of a helium nucleus
Where did the water come from?
#191
Build a colony on Mars while your all up there..
Jun 12th, 2009
Veteran astronaut Julie payette goin back to space station...13 of them up there...Must be gettin pretty crowded..Need a bigger space station..Couple more shuttles . Why stop there .Lets Build a colony on mars while their out there...lol..Lots of work to be done....I know ..easier said than done..
canadaeast.com - Astronaut Payette's life has been marked by keen focus on goals | Nelson Wyatt, THE CANADIAN PRESS - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada
All the best to our fearless space dwellers...Always Amazing
..I know ..easier said than done..canadaeast.com - Astronaut Payette's life has been marked by keen focus on goals | Nelson Wyatt, THE CANADIAN PRESS - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada
All the best to our fearless space dwellers...Always Amazing
#192
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
Only to people who don't really understand the science. That statement is simply false. The more science figures out, the less is left for a creator to do.During the last decade cosmology/astronomy has become increasingly friendly to the Creator model.
#193
Jesus was an alien
Jun 12th, 2009
Jesus was an alien..!....Adam(man of red earth) came from mars....Space leaves plenty of room for anything to be possible...Odds R evolution but miracles happen...Jackpot.!..
Have faith in the future of science..
..Adam(man of red earth) came from mars....Space leaves plenty of room for anything to be possible...Odds R evolution but miracles happen...Jackpot.!..Have faith in the future of science..
#194
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
No, it's just another hydrogen isotope, one proton and two neutrons. It's also poisonously radioactive, so doesn't hang around very long. Its half-life is about 12 years, so there wouldn't be any left over from the Big Bang. The Big Bang produced only hydrogen, helium, and traces of lithium, all other elements were cooked up in stellar interiors. That's where the oxygen to combine with hydrogen to make water came from. Tritium-- transitional element between deuterium and the formation of a helium nucleus
Baryons are the particles made of three quarks and includes protons and neutrons, hadrons are *all* particles made of quarks, leptons are not made of quarks, they appear to be fundamental on their own and include electrons, but not photons. Photons are bosons, one of the force-carrying particles.
#195
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
Great day to you Dexter, I fully agree with you on this fact, I just put it out for debate material.Only to people who don't really understand the science. That statement is simply false. The more science figures out, the less is left for a creator to do.
#196
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
Dexter I truly thank you for your great impute, I am your student in science and physics, truly respect your knowledge as I am sure many others value your impute the same way as I do.. Enjoy the weekend.No, it's just another hydrogen isotope, one proton and two neutrons. It's also poisonously radioactive, so doesn't hang around very long. Its half-life is about 12 years, so there wouldn't be any left over from the Big Bang. The Big Bang produced only hydrogen, helium, and traces of lithium, all other elements were cooked up in stellar interiors. That's where the oxygen to combine with hydrogen to make water came from.
Baryons are the particles made of three quarks and includes protons and neutrons, hadrons are *all* particles made of quarks, leptons are not made of quarks, they appear to be fundamental on their own and include electrons, but not photons. Photons are bosons, one of the force-carrying particles.
#197
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009
My ex-girlfriend is "deep space".....LOL..get it?....that means she's a *****!
#198
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
Great day to you Green Fish, yes what a remarkable women, she is actually able to fly the shuttle under her command. The human race needs more like Julie Payette..Veteran astronaut Julie payette goin back to space station...13 of them up there...Must be gettin pretty crowded..Need a bigger space station..Couple more shuttles . Why stop there .Lets Build a colony on mars while their out there...lol..Lots of work to be done..
canadaeast.com - Astronaut Payette's life has been marked by keen focus on goals | Nelson Wyatt, THE CANADIAN PRESS - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada
All the best to our fearless space dwellers...Always Amazing
Veteran astronaut Julie Payette
#200
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
Thanks, but don't think I keep all this stuff in my head. I knew enough to know the categories of subatomic particles weren't correct, but I had to look up the details. With Google and a little time, it's easy to appear omniscient. Dexter I truly thank you for your great impute, I am your student in science and physics, truly respect your knowledge as I am sure many others value your impute the same way as I do.. Enjoy the weekend.
#201
Re: Deep Space
Jun 12th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
I understand, Thanks, but don't think I keep all this stuff in my head. I knew enough to know the categories of subatomic particles weren't correct, but I had to look up the details. With Google and a little time, it's easy to appear omniscient.
The interesting element I appreciate and many others here I am sure do as well, is your knowledge on the subject of physics and science.
Also the desire to research and become more familiar with the complex subject of the scientific world and share your researched understanding.
A world many humans find pointless to explore yet they have legitimate questions about how and why we are here.
#202
Re: Deep Space
Jun 13th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Well if you look at the construction of most planets is gravity. Because there is limited space and some gases are too light, it forms as a sphere. If Jupiter for example had no gravity it would not be a planet as the gas would be spread out in the universe. However, with newton law in place some planets aren't perfecly round, even our earth has this. It all depends on mass, sizes, speed of rotation and its gravity pull.I wonder if any of those planets are flat?
#203
Re: Deep Space
Jun 14th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
It is a certainty that you have already met extraterrestrial life Socrates, the universe is teeming with lifeforms, it is impossible for any of us to have not been exposed.Great day to you Green Fish, oh it is as you say out of this world,
I wish I would be able to meet an extraterrestrial being in this lifetime.
#205
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009
If someone can stay n space for 6 months/Why not 8?
If we had New shuttles. we could go 2 mars ,like now!
How long before we go to mars?..Now That would be Universally Exciting!...
What would we do there.?.Possibilities are endless!!!
Just ask Socrates the greek..
If we had New shuttles. we could go 2 mars ,like now!
How long before we go to mars?..Now That would be Universally Exciting!...
What would we do there.?.Possibilities are endless!!!
Just ask Socrates the greek..
#206
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
Paradox of the heap?If someone can stay n space for 6 months/Why not 8?
If we had New shuttles. we could go 2 mars ,like now!
How long before we go to mars?..Now That would be Universally Exciting!...
What would we do there.?.Possibilities are endless!!!
Just ask Socrates the greek..
If someone can drink 6 bottles of beer, why not 8? Then, why not 10...
I don't know if Mars itself is as interesting as going to Mars. There are genuine issues involved getting there.
#207
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66
If someone can stay n space for 6 months/Why not 8?
If we had New shuttles. we could go 2 mars ,like now!
How long before we go to mars?..Now That would be Universally Exciting!...
What would we do there.?.Possibilities are endless!!!
Just ask Socrates the greek..
Great day to you Green Fish66,
interesting thought about Mars human habitation, it looks like Mars will be used by mankind for space colonization in the next 5 to 10 years, NASSA already has experimental stations on wheels surveying the mars surface and soon men will be working on the surface of Mars.
I like the idea of space truism where your holiday in space will be to mars and back. Or work on Mars for 6 months and come back to earth for 6 months as we have cosmonauts on the International Space station. Interesting world...........
#208
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009
Future space ship for mars with less time travel then previous methods of space
ships.
NASA - Propulsion Systems of the Future
#209
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009
Thanks for that Socrates , Very interesting...Lets hope new shuttles are in the near future..Lots of talk about it..
Niflmir..Yes there are always issues gettin anywhere......But the science is there..People have been planning a mars trip for years..Alot of the technology that would be needed to colonize mars is being used here or tested...
The best Dream(4 me) would be to travel the stars , visit other worlds , explore planets...And still be able to come home to mother earth, and the human family for a good meal..Some clean water.(as opposed to filtered P water...lol)
Sorry , the 8 month bit was in reference to how long it takes to get there..
Green/clean tech is the best way to get there from here..
Oh damn.. batteries are dying on my laptop ..Gotta go..
Over and out there from here...
Niflmir..Yes there are always issues gettin anywhere..
....But the science is there..People have been planning a mars trip for years..Alot of the technology that would be needed to colonize mars is being used here or tested...The best Dream(4 me) would be to travel the stars , visit other worlds , explore planets...And still be able to come home to mother earth, and the human family for a good meal..Some clean water.(as opposed to filtered P water...lol)
Sorry , the 8 month bit was in reference to how long it takes to get there..
Green/clean tech is the best way to get there from here..
Oh damn.. batteries are dying on my laptop ..Gotta go..
Over and out there from here...
#210
Re: Deep Space
Jun 16th, 2009
Yeah, the science is there, but there is the issue of the money, which is politics. Then there is the issue of building it, testing it, and carrying it through without problem.
All this to put colonies on a desert rock planet, it is a hard sell for all but the dreamers. Of course, I am all for it.
All this to put colonies on a desert rock planet, it is a hard sell for all but the dreamers. Of course, I am all for it.
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