#31
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
If Sudbury gets "put on the map" a few more times, we'll name the planet after it....
Is the English Language being bastardized?
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#32Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
English began as a "bastardized" language, and it will always be one. That is is strength, unlike many other languages, it is infinitely changeable.
It is primarily based on Germanic languages, Romance languages and a smattering of Celtic, and other languages. But, it has added words from virtually every language known to mankind over the years.
There is NO other language on earth that can be so horribly mangled, yet still be comprehensible.
The classic example is of the Old West, when a Chinese laundryman said, "No tickee, no shirtee"! The words are not even words, but the meaning is still VERY clear.
That is EXACTLY why English is THE International language today. Unlike French, which is highly UNadaptable, you can adjust, massage and otherwise utilize English to get the message across.
Thank God for the English language, and just how wonderfully flexible it is.
It is primarily based on Germanic languages, Romance languages and a smattering of Celtic, and other languages. But, it has added words from virtually every language known to mankind over the years.
There is NO other language on earth that can be so horribly mangled, yet still be comprehensible.
The classic example is of the Old West, when a Chinese laundryman said, "No tickee, no shirtee"! The words are not even words, but the meaning is still VERY clear.
That is EXACTLY why English is THE International language today. Unlike French, which is highly UNadaptable, you can adjust, massage and otherwise utilize English to get the message across.
Thank God for the English language, and just how wonderfully flexible it is.
#33
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
WTF sup with dat?
I can't stand internet/texting slang.
I can't stand internet/texting slang.
#34
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
Really?English began as a "bastardized" language, and it will always be one. That is is strength, unlike many other languages, it is infinitely changeable.
It is primarily based on Germanic languages, Romance languages and a smattering of Celtic, and other languages. But, it has added words from virtually every language known to mankind over the years.
There is NO other language on earth that can be so horribly mangled, yet still be comprehensible.
The classic example is of the Old West, when a Chinese laundryman said, "No tickee, no shirtee"! The words are not even words, but the meaning is still VERY clear.
That is EXACTLY why English is THE International language today. Unlike French, which is highly UNadaptable, you can adjust, massage and otherwise utilize English to get the message across.
Thank God for the English language, and just how wonderfully flexible it is.
#35
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
Agreed, JLM.In school (110 years ago) we were taught when there is a choice of using two words with the same meaning, use the shorter one!
#36
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
I heard "no tickee no washee" English began as a "bastardized" language, and it will always be one. That is is strength, unlike many other languages, it is infinitely changeable.
It is primarily based on Germanic languages, Romance languages and a smattering of Celtic, and other languages. But, it has added words from virtually every language known to mankind over the years.
There is NO other language on earth that can be so horribly mangled, yet still be comprehensible.
The classic example is of the Old West, when a Chinese laundryman said, "No tickee, no shirtee"! The words are not even words, but the meaning is still VERY clear.
That is EXACTLY why English is THE International language today. Unlike French, which is highly UNadaptable, you can adjust, massage and otherwise utilize English to get the message across.
Thank God for the English language, and just how wonderfully flexible it is.
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB
I can accept the texting lingo, after all you are just using a form of shorthand to make the process more functional.WTF sup with dat?
I can't stand internet/texting slang.
#37
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by The Old Medic
I'm pretty sure that 'no' is a word.
The classic example is of the Old West, when a Chinese laundryman said, "No tickee, no shirtee"! The words are not even words, but the meaning is still VERY clear.
#38
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
A growing medium can be water. Not everything is grown in soil. I think, like, it's totally good, like. You know.
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#39Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy
And if the "growing medium" was water, why the f**k wouldn't you just say "water"?A growing medium can be water. Not everything is grown in soil. I think, like, it's totally good, like. You know.
#40
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
Because you may be looking at several options to grow some plant. All vegetable are plants, but not all plants are vegetables.
Sometimes longer words are bafflegab/jargon, sometimes they display more choices than the obvious. Like hydroponics. And a "nutrient solution" may be neither hydroponics nor soil.
Sometimes longer words are bafflegab/jargon, sometimes they display more choices than the obvious. Like hydroponics. And a "nutrient solution" may be neither hydroponics nor soil.
#41
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
D. B. Eaver LANGUAGE BASTARDIZATION MADE EASY 78 pages big prnt
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#42Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
Beside the point, when they are using soil why the not say "soil"? That's almost as bad as the "preowned car salesman"!
who the hell would want a preowned car salesman?? Slavery is illegal in Canuckistan. Wouldn't get much work out of a car salesman, preowned or tutherwise, anyhow.
#43
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler
who the hell would want a preowned car salesman?? Slavery is illegal in Canuckistan. Wouldn't get much work out of a car salesman, preowned or tutherwise, anyhow.
#44
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
Pre-owned may mean the salesman was owned, but not owned any more. He's now free.
#45
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy
It COULD mean that but it may NOT mean that. Pre-owned may mean the salesman was owned, but not owned any more. He's now free.
#47
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011
English stayed the same for years because of the King James bible. It's fallen off and so now the language evolves faster than it normally would. I don't know if it's good or bad. I don't really care except for how things are translated now. It changes that. That can be an issue.
#48
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy
Pre-owned may mean the salesman was owned, but not owned any more. He's now free.
A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
#49
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
I like that. I was previously enjoyed... A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
but now, sorrowfully ignored.
Waaaaa!!!
#50
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
I like that. I was previously enjoyed...
but now, sorrowfully ignored.
Waaaaa!!!
It was the rental industry. Rent-to-Own, etc....poor term when dealing with beds.
#51
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
Pretty unethical considering it may have been a previous headache! A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
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#52Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
Pre-owned is the term we use for wastewater/sewage. When somebody's sewer backs up into their basement, we call it off site storage.A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
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#53Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
I liked that septic tanker that had "Yesterday's Meals on Wheels" written on the back.Pre-owned is the term we use for wastewater/sewage. When somebody's sewer backs up into their basement, we call it off site storage.
#54
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
Yesterday's Big Macs might also be appropriate! I liked that septic tanker that had "Yesterday's Meals on Wheels" written on the back.
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#55Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
Just as places ask for your "gently used" items for donation! I guess it's the nicer way of saying - don't bring us your crap!A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
#56
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Oct 31st, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by VanIsle
Not to mention 50 varieties of "challenged". Just as places ask for your "gently used" items for donation! I guess it's the nicer way of saying - don't bring us your crap!
#57
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Nov 2nd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina
It's funny, and some people sort of buy it. If it's not a total wreck I suppose. But pre-owned is what they often use instead of used by used car dealers.A previous occupation I was in used the term "previously enjoyed" instead of
"pre-owned" or "used."
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#58
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Nov 7th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
What kid ever "gently uses" his toys? What kid really cares (as long as it works).?Not to mention 50 varieties of "challenged".
I collect Fisher Price toys and once dropped off a box of "well played with" toys at the children's hospital.
The wooden ones never break -unless of course, you provide the child with a saw, hammer and nails as well!
It's quite sad how these wonderful wooden toys - never got there. I just sell them now.
We recycle boxes here at work but they call them "previously loved".
In that context, I guess I've recycled a few people as well. :P
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#59Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Nov 9th, 2011
I just heard a beauty (repeated five or six times) on C.B.C. radio this morning. A woman was talking about restoring an old cemetary and trying to locate the old graves and was explaining how equipment was being brought in to determine where people were "interned".
Another one you see quite often is "mute" for the word "moot".
Another one you see quite often is "mute" for the word "moot".
#60
Re: Is the English Language being bastardized?
Nov 9th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler
and I don't want my slaves always lying.who the hell would want a preowned car salesman?? Slavery is illegal in Canuckistan. Wouldn't get much work out of a car salesman, preowned or tutherwise, anyhow.
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