9/11, an inside job?

9/11, an inside job?

AnnaG

#211

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

What's the point here?
I mean, one would have to be a fool to believe that idiotic tale that the American gov't came up with, and so far one would have to be just as much a fool to believe the conspiracy is as broad as to cover politicians, people that were in the buildings, cops, demolition people, airport workers, etc.

Avro

#212

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

What's the point here?
I mean, one would have to be a fool to believe that idiotic tale that the American gov't came up with, and so far one would have to be just as much a fool to believe the conspiracy is as broad as to cover politicians, people that were in the buildings, cops, demolition people, airport workers, etc.

What's so idiotic about the government account?

AnnaG

#213

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro

What's so idiotic about the government account?

Have you seen its explanation as to why WTC7 fell down?

Avro

#214

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Have you seen its explanation as to why WTC7 fell down?

Nope.

Enlighten me.

AnnaG

#215

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

WTC 7 - Google Search

Avro

#216

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

WTC 7 - Google Search

Buh bye

lone wolf

#217

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

For one, the "fact" that all these terrorists were supposed to be under observation - even to hoisting brews in a peeler bar in celebration (odd for Islamic martyrs) - then managed to board four airplanes unobserved.

For another, the "fact" a student pilot who couldn't manage straight and level flight in a Cessna could manage to fly a jet at 35 thou on VFR into anything but the ground. No! Wait.... They dropped the student pilot cover when they realized how many holes were being poked in the tale....

Way too many inconsistencies. Why won't they just admit they were sloppy and screwed up?

AnnaG

#218

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro

Buh bye

So your interest wasn't really in finding out what the gov't said, you wanted to know what I would say about what the gov't said about WTC 7? Why not just say that in the first place? Otherwise you could google the info just as well as I can.

Avro

#219

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

For one, the "fact" that all these terrorists were supposed to be under observation - even to hoisting brews in a peeler bar in celebration (odd for Islamic martyrs) - then managed to board four airplanes unobserved.

For another, the "fact" a student pilot who couldn't manage straight and level flight in a Cessna could manage to fly a jet at 35 thou on VFR into anything but the ground. No! Wait.... They dropped the student pilot cover when they realized how many holes were being poked in the tale....

Way too many inconsistencies. Why won't they just admit they were sloppy and screwed up?

Geez, not another one.

Didn't realise their were so many crack pots on this subject.

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

So your interest wasn't really in finding out what the gov't said, you wanted to know what I would say about what the gov't said about WTC 7? Why not just say that in the first place? Otherwise you could google the info just as well as I can.

Toodles.

lone wolf

#220

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Av.... I bet you eat your Cheerios from a bowl just because the box tells you to

Avro

#221

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

Av.... I bet you eat your Cheerios from a bowl just because the box tells you to

Hate to tell you but that dosen't prove anything you have stated.

lone wolf

#222

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro

Hate to tell you but that dosen't prove anything you have stated.

Hate to tell you but so what?

Are you interpreting what I said into a conspiracy theorist jab? The only inside job was the cover-my-***-so-I-don't-catch-hell shuffle after the fact. I bet that's familiar ground to you....

Avro

#223

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

Hate to tell you but so what?

Are you interpreting what I said into a conspiracy theorist jab? The only inside job was the cover-my-***-so-I-don't-catch-hell shuffle after the fact. I bet that's familiar ground to you....

No, just telling you that what you have stated proves nothing, if it's even true.

AnnaG

#224

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Why didn't WTC 5 and/or 6 fall down or burn down? WTC 7 was not hit by a plane. The official story is that it burnt down after being hit by debris. The story behind the construction of WTC 7 is that it was impossible to burn down and the debris that got there, if any, was not sufficient to do enough damage to WTC 7 to make it fall down even with the aid of fire.

I'm not going to side with conspiracy nuts here, but the official explanation doesn't cover the bases.

Avro

#225

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Why didn't WTC 5 and/or 6 fall down or burn down? WTC 7 was not hit by a plane. The official story is that it burnt down after being hit by debris. The story behind the construction of WTC 7 is that it was impossible to burn down.

I'm not going to side with conspiracy nuts here, but the official explanation doesn't cover the bases.

So now you want to play?

To funny and to late.

Ciao

AnnaG

#226

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro

So now you want to play?

To funny and to late.

Ciao

Go pout then. *shrugs*

Avro

#227

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Go pout then. *shrugs*

Google

Kakato

#228

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Why didn't WTC 5 and/or 6 fall down or burn down? WTC 7 was not hit by a plane. The official story is that it burnt down after being hit by debris. The story behind the construction of WTC 7 is that it was impossible to burn down and the debris that got there, if any, was not sufficient to do enough damage to WTC 7 to make it fall down even with the aid of fire.

I'm not going to side with conspiracy nuts here, but the official explanation doesn't cover the bases.

My link to the debunking 9/11 website covers every aspect of why it fell in great detail,really,everyone who wants answers should read that site first before posting,hundreds of thousands of hours were put into fact finding and showing exactly what happened and why.They are very thorough.

Avro

#229

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

My link to the debunking 9/11 website covers every aspect of why it fell in great detail,really,everyone who wants answers should read that site first before posting,hundreds of thousands of hours were put into fact finding and showing exactly what happened and why.They are very thorough.

Well gee, that would take someone to go to google and search for that stuff wouldn't it?

Seems to be a lot of kettles accusing pots of things around here.

petros

#230

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

20 is 9 more than 11.

If I see a guy stoned on blow with a box of Qurans should I autmatically assume he is a terrorist?

Those guys drop more Qurans in strip bars, cars, and hotels than Gideons does bibles.

Kakato

#231

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro

Well gee, that would take someone to go to google and search for that stuff wouldn't it?

Seems to be a lot of kettles accusing pots of things around here.

I'm a proud member of the fighting keyboardists on that site and spent many hours reading,researching and fighting foilers for a couple years before I realized it was futile.
Facts are lost on foilers.

Of all the debunking sites,that one is the least partisan and biased of them all.

lone wolf

#232

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

To me, it's that I'm-better-than-'the Foilers' closed-mindedness that makes both poles sound like they're full of crap.

Kakato

#233

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

To me, it's that I'm-better-than-'the Foilers' closed-mindedness that makes both poles sound like they're full of crap.

The thing about fighting foilers is you HAVE to keep an open mind and go over all the possibilities thrown at you with a fine toothed comb.
Foilers never keep an open mind,they believe what they are told because they dont care about facts when their pushing their agenda which is usually against the "man".

lone wolf

#234

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Is that like shouting folks down who don't think along your lines? "Fighting" seems to indicates crossfire - across the gap where truths might be hidden.

Kakato

#235

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 12th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

Is that like shouting folks down who don't think along your lines? "Fighting" seems to indicates crossfire - across the gap where truths might be hidden.

Nope,no shouting,just look at the theorys and slowly pick them apart with facts one at a time,lots of patience required to battle online with a foiler.

That's why they allways jump to a new theory or sub topic when you do pick one apart and dont even try refuting it,one of the reasons that debunking site is so large,it has to be to cover everything the foilers throw at you.

Toro is good at taking on foilers but he gave up also.
I know him from many years ago when 9/11 was in it's ct heyday.

Dexter Sinister

#236 Top Rated Post

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 13th, 2010

I have resisted posting in this thread because of all the tinfoilers I was sure would show up in it, and they have. But I decided to put my $0.02 worth in tonight, aided by a few drinks at a party... No, 9/11 was not an inside job, the idea that the Bush administration could have orchestrated it is absurd, because it worked. There was a conspiracy, certainly, to cover up the incompetence of the people who could and should have prevented it, which worked about as well as anything else the Bush administration tried, and certainly the Bush administration used it shamelessly to promote its agenda, but to believe that the Bush administration did it, or the Israeli's did it as some seem to believe, is just stupid. The basic facts are clear: 19 educated middle class Islamists hijacked four airplanes and crashed two of them into the main WTC towers and a third one into the Pentagon, and the fourth crashed into a field in Pennsylvania instead of the White House thanks to some heroic work by the passengers, because they believed doing so would get them instant access to paradise in the afterlife and it's perfectly acceptable, even desirable, to murder people who don't agree with you. That's all, the rest is detail and most of it's bull****.

CDNBear

#237

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 13th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

20 is 9 more than 11.

Gee thanx Petros, can you show me question 20 now, of the unanswered questions. I went to 911truth.org and found that they have posted, 11 unanswered questions now.

Unless you're going by an older list where some of the questions have been answered.

Bace

#238

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 13th, 2010

While I do not believe that 9/11 was an inside job, there are enough inconsistencies in the "facts" that lead me to believe that there was prior knowledge that was ignored.
1) On Sept 10th, Gov't Officials all canceled their reservations on commercial flights.
2) While apparantly the Gov't was ignorant of the impending attack, they were naming Bin Laden as the mastermind as the second plane was hitting the tower. I'm thinking, wow, there must be all kinds of intelligence coming to light in just 45 minutes.
3) In August 2001, John O'Neill quits the FBI due to repeated obstruction of his investigation of Al Queda. Obstruction by who?
4) Anyone who refuses to believe the Bush Administration would never sacrifice its own citizens for its own agenda, need only look at **** Cheney as a case study. This man was on National TV a year after the Iraq connection was fully debunked, still claiming that Iraq has WMD and was connected to Bin Laden! See also his commitment to torture. The man has no morals or ethics, and I truly believe he is capable of anything.
5) Bush's assertion that he watched the first plane hit the tower in a live feed. There was no footage of that event until the following day.
So yes, it was an act of terrorism, but the American Government needs to come clean on the events of that day.

petros

#239

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 13th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Gee thanx Petros, can you show me question 20 now, of the unanswered questions. I went to 911truth.org and found that they have posted, 11 unanswered questions now.

Unless you're going by an older list where some of the questions have been answered.

I've posted the link to the pdf 3 times.

Kakato

#240

Re: 9/11, an inside job?

Jul 13th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

I have resisted posting in this thread because of all the tinfoilers I was sure would show up in it, and they have. But I decided to put my $0.02 worth in tonight, aided by a few drinks at a party... No, 9/11 was not an inside job, the idea that the Bush administration could have orchestrated it is absurd, because it worked. There was a conspiracy, certainly, to cover up the incompetence of the people who could and should have prevented it, which worked about as well as anything else the Bush administration tried, and certainly the Bush administration used it shamelessly to promote its agenda, but to believe that the Bush administration did it, or the Israeli's did it as some seem to believe, is just stupid. The basic facts are clear: 19 educated middle class Islamists hijacked four airplanes and crashed two of them into the main WTC towers and a third one into the Pentagon, and the fourth crashed into a field in Pennsylvania instead of the White House thanks to some heroic work by the passengers, because they believed doing so would get them instant access to paradise in the afterlife and it's perfectly acceptable, even desirable, to murder people who don't agree with you. That's all, the rest is detail and most of it's bull****.

Bang on.

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