The Doomed Mercury

This is in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 20: 105-107

I couldn't edit; so I add that:
The heat of the sun, specially on the side of Mercury [and later on the earth in like manner] facing the sun, will lead to heating the rocks of mountains, which in turn will lead to the liberation of CO2 from the calcium carbonate of the rocks, causing the rocks to be some fine sand and dust which will be transmitted - by the effect of the wind - to the valleys and low lands.

moved to "alternate theories"

July 03, 2008

New view of Mercury provides surface details, promises deeper revelations

Case Western Reserve University professor co-authors findings paper in Science magazine


Scientists now have a much clearer view of the surface of Mercury -- as well as data that could lead to new theories about the planet's interior -- from the first direct topographic data sent back from the MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry and Ranging (MESSENGER) spacecraft in January. Steven A. Hauck II, assistant professor of geological sciences in the College of Arts and Sciences at Case Western Reserve University, is part of the team collecting and analyzing the data.
A paper, "Laser Altimeter Observations from MESSENGER's First Mercury Flyby," co-authored by Hauck with lead author Maria T. Zuber (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) detailing the analysis is one of 11 articles on the NASA-funded Mercury mission published in the July 4 issue of Science.
The team used data collected by the Mercury Laser Altimeter (MLA) housed on MESSENGER to create a topographic profile of a 3,200-km stretch of Mercury's surface, approximately 20 percent of the circumference of Mercury's equator. When MESSENGER's primary mission is completed, now scheduled for 2012, a complete picture of the northern hemisphere and some areas south of the equator will be collected.
The device directs a laser toward Mercury and measures the time, in milliseconds, it takes for the beam to reflect back to the craft. The higher the altitude of the area covered by the laser, the shorter the reflection time back to MESSENGER. The precision of the altitude measurements is ˜15 cm.
Initial Findings

Findings include the fact that the radius of Mercury apparently decreases by 1.4 km along the equator from 10° to 90° E longitude, corresponding to a 0.02° slope down to the east.
Such a long-wavelength slope, if additional research proves it to be a fundamental feature of the equatorial shape of the planet, might be the result of crustal thickness or crustal density variations, global-scale mantle density, or topography along the planet's core-mantle boundary, located approximately 600 km beneath the planet's surface.
A series of impact craters were profiled. While they are shallower than similar craters on the Moon, due in part to Mercury's higher gravity, the floors of the sampled craters on the planet's surface also varied in roughness and slope. These differences imply complex post-impact modification.
Such modifications may include volcanic resurfacing, tectonic subsidence, wall slumping, viscous relaxation, and emplacement of debris from younger nearby impacts -- all important geological processes.
Just the Beginning

Findings at this point are the result of data compiled from MESSENGER's flyby in January. Two more flybys are scheduled for October 2008 and September 2009. In 2011, MESSENGER will begin orbiting Mercury for approximately one year, collecting data the entire time.
Previous topographic data about Mercury's surface were based on images collected during three flybys by Mariner 10 in 1974 and 1975. Additional insights also were provided by Earth-based radar measurements taken over the last two decades.
"Those results were of lower and more variable resolution than what we're getting from MLA on MESSENGER," Hauck said. "We can pull much more detailed topographic information from the new data."
The team of researchers found that MESSENGER was able to collect MLA data from a position farther from Mercury's surface than originally planned.
"We expected that once MESSENGER reached a distance of 1,200 km from Mercury, it would be difficult to receive reflected laser pulses from the surface," he said. "It turns out that MLA is able to receive reflected laser pulses at a distance of up to 1,500 km. As a result, we will be able to expand our field of study. Previously, we were focusing on the northern hemisphere, but now we are able to see a bit below the equator."
Over the course of the MESSENGER mission, Hauck expects that our understanding of Mercury inside and out will be greatly enhanced.
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Scientists, keep up moving my posting.

Such crustal thickness and mantle density indicate that Mercury has lost its internal heat to a large extent so that its crust and mantle have increased in thickness.



These craters are almost due to the impact of a large number of comets; which will be attracted by the cold planet (after it lost its intenal heat);
and when the comet impacts the planet, it will melt the rocks and the ground and dip or immerse to be buried under the ground.

This is like the effect of the high temperature of the flame used in cutting metals in the welding process; so that following the comet impact: nothing will be left on the ground other than finely ground flat bottom of the crater.

See the subject of Comets at our web page:

Gee eanassir tell me more of this super science!





Funny stuff.

"So now look carefully to this word and think about its meaning: Can any human being be able to give a synonym of it? Or can any man express in such [few] words all this information and knowledge?"
This word, alone, suffices as a proof of the truthfulness of Mohammed – peace be on him – and a proof of the existence of a Creator for the universe; because the sphericity of the Earth was unknown to people until the present time [the Quran was revealed more than 1400 years ago], and this knowledge and statement have not been discovered and become a reality except in these present days.

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But some ignorant people speak about the Quran words that they do no know their meaning; in addition, they do not know the interpretation of some ambiguous ayat;
and there are many cunning charlatans [followers of some political parties, communists and atheists] take that in a way against God in order to disprove the Quran; but the truth cannot be covered; on the contrary their devilish efforts will be against them, and the word of God will spread just like His light has filled the earth and the planets.

As He said – be exalted – in the Quran 3: 7

فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ في قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَابَهَ مِنْهُ ابْتِغَاء الْفِتْنَةِ وَابْتِغَاء تَأْوِيلِهِ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُ إِلاَّ اللّهُ

The explanation:
(Those, in whose hearts is a deviation [from the truth]; these follow the 'similitudes' therein [: the ambiguous ayat of the Quran]: seeking
to seduce [people and turn them away],
and seeking to interpret it.
But none but God [only] does know its interpretation.)


eanassir
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Last edited by eanassir; Oct 16th, 2008 at 10:26 PM..

That's cryptic, ambiguous and therefore meant for fools.

As for the rest: religionists make their text fit whatever science is current. This is because it offers nothing new but can be twisted to mean anything.

If your foolish book were really from god you would be leading science not playing catchup.

You only try to overcome with asserting some words.

No answer should be given to you unless you specify your points and understand the evidence then yield to God to Whom you will submit willingly, or dragged by force in your afterlife.

And why playing catchup; you already have been caught by Satan and his party.

Exactly right. Islamic apologists find passages in their scriptures anticipating science only after science has announced its results. Any fool can make post hoc predictions, and lots of them do. If the Quran really was dictated directly by god via Gabriel, or Jibril, to Mohammed, for the benefit of humanity, why does it not contain any information that would have been unknown to the people of the 7th century that would have been immediately useful and could have ended much human misery long before we figured out ourselves how to do it? For instance, why doesn't it say that infection is caused by living creatures too small to see that can be killed, and give a list of ways to kill them? Allah must have known that, he set it up that way; why didn't he tell us? There's no information explicit in the Quran that wasn't common knowledge at the time it was written down, and any claims to the contrary are at best post hoc rationalizations. And if eanassir's grasp of science is any indication, that's being charitable.

No. I am not being ambiguous. You cannot mistake the meaning of my words.

The magic of cryptic religious texts is that they are meant to be misinterpreted so people such as yourself can twist them into any meaning you like. It is you who asserts words.

You have no answer that's why you can't offer one

Where is this super science of your god? Why do you always try and make the ramblings of the insane seem scientific? What proof do you have? Reveal something unknown that will shake the scientific world to its knees!

Do it now! Show me something before it is discovered by science! Before you can twist the Qu'ran with your stupid little word games.

If you can not do this then you and your god are fools!

You mean the Satan that lives in my nose according to your ridiculous Qu'ran?

What a fool.

I'll spit on him and call him a liar and a bully, and dare him to do his worst. I'll be irrevocably condemned already at that point anyway according to you, might as well get a few shots in while I can. What could he do to me at that point to make it worse, condemn me for eternity plus a week? He'll get no respect from me if he's anything like what you describe.

To all readers here; I shall not reply to such as Dexter and Scott; not because I have no answer but because - with their bad words - they revile God, His apostle and His books.

You would let a single arrow drive you from the battle?

lol

God and his apostles, if such there be (which I don`t believe for a second), don`t need any help from you. I call you coward, and ignorant.

I agree Dexter. His arguments don't hold weight and even the threats of his sky god are impotent.

Just had another thought about that. You're going to withdraw from the fray because you don't like what some of us say about your treasured beliefs. You lack the courage of your convictions, you prefer to hide behind self-righteous indignation.

Allah would not be pleased. See you in Hell. And I'll kick your ass there too.

To confirm our idea about Mercury see the following points:
1- There is no atmosphere or there is only a very thin atmosphere.
2- There is no water on the surface of Mercury, at least in the hemisphere of Mercury facing the sun.
3- The mountains on the side facing the sun either there are no mountains or the mountains there will be low, and generally the surface will be almost flat other than:
4- The large number of craters, and
5- There are many trenches and fissuring of the crust of the planet.

any theory presented without hard evidence (or even a reference) goes to alternate theories. Perhaps you'd like to submit your theory to "science" or "scientific american", and see if they're nicer about it

God - be celebrated His praise - said in the Quran 73: 14


The explanation: (And on the day when the earth and the mountains shall quake, and priorily the mountains shall become a heaping mass of sand.)

It means: like sand-hills in which the sand easily sweeps away of their sides with the least movement, and the wind carries it away to the low lands.

Another point indicating the coldness of both Venus and Mercury: is the absence of active volcanoes which are not existent on Mercury and Venus, but are active on both the Earth and Mars. Earth and Mars are continuously spinning around their axes and had liquid and hot cores.

eanassir
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Last edited by eanassir; Oct 18th, 2008 at 12:44 PM..

Actually, I think you are being overly generous in tagging eannasirs ideas as "theories".

From Princeton University Press: "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world" is the definition of "theory".
From NASA:"An explanation for some phenomenon that is based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning."

Eanassir's postings contain no substantiation at all. Hearsay is not acceptable as substantiation. His ideas are not based on experimentation and indeed, I highly doubt they have much to do with reasoning.

The spacecraft MESSENGER have taken its orbit around Mercury and started sending its pictures of the doomed planet.
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/me...cury-image.jpg

Which confirm the explanation of the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible:
1- No atmosphere and the surface appears clearly.
2- The surface of Mercury is full of a large number of craters --- because of the falling of a large number of comets on it.
3- There are many fissures and trenches and grooves because Mercury cooled down and so contracted and its surface had such grooves and fissures because of the contraction and shrinkage.
4- No water is now on Mercury: all of its water and atmosphere escaped to the outer space following the weakness of its gravity.

If the images are precise like that of Google-earth then we may see the river beds empty and the sea bottoms scorched by the sun- heat, and the houses without people after all its people had perished.

The findings now on Mercury are like those of Venus and in fact more severe; because Mercury had stopped its axial spinning a long time before did Venus; therefore:

"[Mercury and] Venus, in the past, was inhabited; for there were human beings, animals, plant, trees and other things; but the life on [Mercury and] Venus ended because of its standstill from axial rotation, and all its inhabitants died, its rivers dried and its trees burnt;

therefore, whosoever was on the day-side died from excessive heat and thirst, and whosoever was on the night-side died from excessive coldness and starvation.

If anyone goes to [Mercury or] Venus and lands on the day-side, he will die from excessive heat; and if he lands on the night-side, he will suffer there from severe coldness and lack of food.

The traveler to [Mercury or] Venus, then, will find towns, houses, clubs and shops, but will not see anyone dwelling therein; he will see furniture and property, but will not see any owner of them; he will see rivers but without water; and trees but they have been burnt by the Sun heat."

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Last edited by eanassir; Mar 31st, 2011 at 04:57 PM..

Back for more abuse, eh.

Which of the 4 points that I said, that you deny?

#3 is not the correct explanation. Also, neither Mercury nor Venus have stopped their axial rotation, and neither were they ever inhabited. But since divine authority means everything and evidence means nothing to you, I don't expect you'll believe that.

I have no idea what you are talking about so I don't have an opinion. I don't believe in the validity of any of the so called holy books so it all seems rather silly to me. I was referring to Dexter coming in (right on cue Dex!) and making hamburger out of your beliefs.

Name a place on this planet that doesn't have life? No matter how far we poke into the rock or how deep the ocean or how deep the ice we have found life in ABUNDANCE.

True, but hardly to the point, eanassir believes Mercury and Venus were once inhabited by humans. Funny how he can believe that the trees burned there, but the towns, houses, clubs, shops, and furniture survived. They must all have been made of rock. I'm getting a vision of a Bedrock-type village, Fred, Wilma, Barney, Betty, et al, fried to a crisp in their yards, leaving a ghost town of stone buildings...