Chemtrails

Chemtrails

quandary121

#1Jun 2nd, 2008

SHREVEPORT, LA

CHEMTRAILS: Is U.S. Gov't. Secretly Testing Americans 'Again'?

Posted: Nov 9, 2007 07:46 PM EST

Could a strange substance found by an Ark-La-Tex man be part of secret government testing program? That's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "Chemtrails." In a KSLA News 12 investigation, Reporter Jeff Ferrell shows us the results of testing we had done about what's in our skies.
story by Jeff Ferrell

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Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

FUBAR

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

If they contain deadly poisons how come your still here?

quandary121

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by FUBAR

If they contain deadly poisons how come your still here?

your inability to see the consequences of these chem-trails or the fact that they are continuing to spray our Sky's does not take away from the fact that many people in the USA have died from unknown respiratory ailments this said the effects are unknown and it would be hard to say how long you would have to be exposed to these before something happens to you and by then it could be to late.

scratch

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121

your inability to see the consequences of these chem-trails or the fact that they are continuing to spray our Sky's does not take away from the fact that many people in the USA have died from unknown respiratory ailments this said the effects are unknown and it would be hard to say how long you would have to be exposed to these before something happens to you and by then it could be to late.

Grammar.

FUBAR

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

I never said I've seen them so they can't hurt me. Your the one worried about them not me....

scratch

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by FUBAR

I never said I've seen them so they can't hurt me. Your the one worried about them not me....

As the merit points mount.

#juan

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Nobody is deliberately spraying toxic chemicals into the upper atmosphere. I'm not wild about the billions of gallons of kerosine that we are burning in our airliners every month but contrails are mostly water and CO2 and a dozen or two other elements. Every once in a while somebody dusts off the stupid old "chemtrail" story and we all go round the bush once again.

scratch

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Nobody is deliberately spraying toxic chemicals into the upper atmosphere. I'm not wild about the billions of gallons of kerosine that we are burning in our airliners every month but contrails are mostly water and CO2 and a dozen or two other elements. Every once in a while somebody dusts off the stupid old "chemtrail" story and we all go round the bush once again.

Originality has gone out of style, me thinks.

FUBAR

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Nobody is deliberately spraying toxic chemicals into the upper atmosphere. I'm not wild about the billions of gallons of kerosine that we are burning in our airliners every month but contrails are mostly water and CO2 and a dozen or two other elements. Every once in a while somebody dusts off the stupid old "chemtrail" story and we all go round the bush once again.

Are you sure--really really sure...

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quandary121

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 2nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by scratch

Grammar.

and i also fail to see how grammar has anything to do with this subject

Stretch

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Chemtrails, an introduction.....
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Chemtrails cause Chronic Health Problems. And the problem is growing. Your symptoms and health problems are not in your head! Chemtrails is a very real cause of many health problems in America and around the world today.

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121

and i also fail to see how grammar has anything to do with this subject

You are correct. Grammar was in no way, associated with your post in any manner whatsoever.

#juan

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Chemtrails? Shouldn't that be Kooktrails?

hermanntrude

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121

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Chemtrails have you seen them i have the differance between Chemtrails and contrails is contrails disapear after about 10-15 mins Chemtrails dont they dissapate over a longer peroid of time and contain deadly poisons ive seen them here in england and they have been seen all over the usa whats the adjenda about these Chemtrails

this is nonsense. "contrails" are often the nucleation sites for clouds, some of which grow to cover the entire sky in any one place, so you can't say that contrails disappear after 10-15 minutes. Often they don't disappear, they actually linger and grow.

and what's the actual evidence that "chemtrails" exist and contain barium?

#juan

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

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Chemtrails have you seen them i have the differance between Chemtrails and contrails is contrails disapear after about 10-15 mins Chemtrails dont they dissapate over a longer peroid of time and contain deadly poisons ive seen them here in england and they have been seen all over the usa whats the adjenda about these Chemtrails

There are both high winds and periods of calm in the upper atmosphere. Contrails can sometimes linger, and sometimes disappear quite rapidly. That they hang around for a while doesn't mean they are part of a conspiracy to poison us. NASA doesn't believe in chemtrails, nor do I.

Stretch

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Chemtrails? Shouldn't that be Kooktrails?

tis amazing how quickly one resorts to using ridicule when one fails to come up with an argument...........

Stretch

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Atmospheric Geoengineering is occuring in our skies daily, and on a worldwide basis
For those who doubt the feasibility of these special operations, just take a look at the following Patents.

Chemtrail Patents:
Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
United States Patent 4,686,605 / Eastlund / August 11, 1987
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A method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region which normally exists above the earth's surface. The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.
Method of modifying weather
United States Patent 6,315,213 / Cordani / November 13, 2001
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A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain.
Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
United States Patent / 5,286,979 / Berliner / February 15, 1994
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This invention is a process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere by dispersing melanin, its analogs, or derivatives into the atmosphere. By appropriate choice of melanin composition, size of melanin dispersoids, and their concentration, the melanin will absorb some quantity of ultraviolet radiation and thereby lessen its overall effect on the critters who would normally absorb such radiation.
Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying
United States Patent / 4,948,050 / Picot / August 14, 1990
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/4948050
A rotary liquid spray atomizer for aerial spraying is driven by a variable speed motor, driven in turn by power from a variable speed AC generator. The generator is driven from a power take-off from the engine of the spraying aircraft, a drive assembly includes a device for controlling the speed of the generator relative to the speed of the engine. The particularly convenient drive assembly between the generator and the power take-off is a hydraulic motor, which drives the generator, driven by a hydraulic pump driven from the power take-off. The speed of the hydraulic motor can be controllably varied. Conveniently the AC motor is a synchronous motor.
Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
United States Patent / 4,412,654 Yates / November 1, 1983
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/4412654
A laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying involve the use of a streamlined body having a slot in the trailing edge thereof to afford a quiescent zone within the wing and into which liquid for spraying is introduced. The liquid flows from a source through a small diameter orifice having a discharge end disposed in the quiet zone well upstream of the trailing edge. The liquid released into the quiet zone in the slot forms drops characteristic of laminar flow. Those drops then flow from the slot at the trailing edge of the streamlined body and discharge into the slipstream for free distribution.
ROCKET HAVING BARIUM RELEASE SYSTEM TO CREATE ION CLOUDS IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE
United States Patent: - US3813875 / Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972
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A chemical system for releasing a good yield of free barium (Ba°) atoms and barium ions (BA+) to create ion clouds in the upper atmosphere and interplanetary space for the study of the geophysical properties of the medium. Inventor(s): Paine; Thomas O. Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration with respect to an invention of , Hampton, VA 23364

NASA: BARIUM - Chemical Formulas/Suppliers
source: gisgaia
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This is the "Description of Preferred Embodiments" link in the NASA Barium Patent listed above. Astounding that this information was generated in l969 and now,30 years later, there is evidence of Barium saturation in our atmosphere.
The Barium/Fuel mixtures are listed below along with the suppliers.

Description of Preferred Embodiments:
Referring now to the drawings and more particularly to FIG. 1, there is shown a segment of a suitable carrier vehicle 10, such for example a rocket motor. Vehicle 10 is employed to carry fuel tank 11, insulated oxidizer tank 13 and combustion chamber 15, along with the necessary instrumentation, from earth into the upper atmosphere or into interplanetary space. Fuel tank 11 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 and oxidizer tank 13 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 by way of respective conduits 17 and 19. A pair of valves 21 and 23 are disposed within the respective conduits 17 and 19. Valves 21 and 23 are adapted to be selectively and simultaneously opened by a suitable battery-powered timing mechanism, radio signal, or the like, to release the pressurized fuel and oxidizer from tanks 11 and 13. The fuel and oxidizer then flow through conduits 17 and 19 and impinge upon each other through a centrally positioned manifold and suitable jets (not shown) in combustion chamber 15 where spontaneous ignition occurs. The reaction products are then expelled through the open ends of combustion chamber 15 as plasma which includes the desired barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species.
The fuel utilized in fuel tank 11 is either hydrazine (N2 H4) or liquid ammonia (NH3) while the oxidizer employed is selected from the group consisting of liquid fluorine (F2), chlorine trifluoride (ClF3) and oxygen difluoride (OF2). When using hydrazine as the fuel, barium may be dissolved therein as barium chloride, BaCl2, or barium nitrate, Ba(NO3)2, or a combination of the two. When using liquid ammonia as the fuel, barium metal may be dissolved therein. The combination found to produce the highest intensity of Ba° and Ba+ resonance radiation in ground based tests involved a fuel of 16 percent Ba(NO3)2, 17 percent BaCl2 and 67 percent N2 H4 ; and as the oxidizer, the cryogenic liquid fluorine F2 and in which an oxidizer to fuel weight ratio was 1.32.
Other combinations of ingredients tested are set forth in Table I below:
TABLE I
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System Optimum O/F Percent
Ionization
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16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.36 68.0
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.08 70.0
50% Ba(NO3)2 -
50% NH3 /ClF3
1.52 -
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
1.19 50.0
16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /F2
1.95 68.8
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /F2
1.71 70.6
21% BaCl2 -
9% Ba(NO3)2 -
70% N2 H4 /F2
1.57 68.5
17% BaCl2 -
16% Ba(NO3)2 -
67% N2 H4 /F2
1.31 68.1
13% BaCl2 -
21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -
65.5% N2 H4 /F2
1.34 63.7
9% BaCl2 -
30% Ba(NO3)2 -
61% N2 H4 /F2
1.04 63.7
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /F2
0.976 43.0
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
0.694 46.9
26% BaCL2 -
74% N2 H4 /OF2
1.22 52.8
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The conditions under which each of the combinations listed in Table I were tested were ambient and the percentage ionization was calculated by equations set forth in NASA Contract Report CR-1415 published in August 1969.
The chemical supplier and manufacturers stated purity for the various chemicals employed are set forth in Table II below:
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Chemical
Supplier Purity
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N2 H4
Olin Mathieson Chemical
Technical Grade
Company, Lake Charles,
97-98% N2 H4
Louisiana (2-3% H2 O)
NH3
Air Products and Chemicals
Technical Grade
Allentown, Pa.
BaCl2
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.
Ba(NO3)2
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.
F2 Air Products & Chemicals
98%
Allentown, Pa.
ClF3
Allied Chemical Co.
99.5%
Baton Rouge, La.
OF2
Allied Chemical Co.
98%
Baton Rouge, La.
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A solubility study of various mixtures containing Ba(NO3)2, BaCl2 and N2 H4 was made at room temperature and is shown in the triangular plot of FIG. 2. Seven solutions that were used in the tests enumerated in Table I are indicated by reference letters in FIG. 2 as follows:
a. 16.7% BaCl2 - 83.3% N2 H4
b. 26% BaCl2 - 74% N2 H4
c. 21% BaCl2 - 9% Ba(NO3)2 - 70% N2 H4
d. 17% BaCl2 - 16% Ba(NO3)2 - 67% N2 H4
e. 13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4
f. 9% BaCl2 - 30% Ba(NO3)2 - 61% N2 H4
g. 42.9% Ba(NO3)2 - 57.1% N2 H4
A mixture below the Saturation Line, that is toward the Ba(NO3)2 or BaCl2 corners contained a solid and a solution phase whereas the salts were in complete solution above the saturation line.
All fuel mixtures or systems described were easily handled except the 50 percent Ba(NO3)2 -50 percent NH3 system. This system caused clogging of the feed valves due to precipitation of the Ba(NO3)2. In addition the light values obtained using this system was relatively low.
In testing of each of the fuel mixtures set forth in Table I the Ba° light was greater than the Ba+ light for a given oxidizer/fuel ratio in each of the mixtures. The maximum light occurred in all systems at a point located between the stoichiometric O/F and 3 percent less than the stoichiometric O/F. The stoichiometric O/F is defined as being equivalent to the oxidizer to fuel weight ratio in a balanced equation assuming the salt is converted to free Ba, F to HF, Cl to HCl and O to H2 O. For example, one system tested had an O/F ratio of 142 grams oxidizer per 100 grams fuel or 1.42/1.00. If the barium is assumed to be converted to BaF2 then the stoichiometric O/F is 1.47. Since the greatest light output in all cases occurred with O/F less than stoichiometric it is apparent that little of the Ba was combined as BaF2 or BaCl2. This was confirmed by spectrographic analysis.
In Table II the various systems are listed in decreasing light output or relative light intensity as measured by phototubes in millivolts, thereby indicating the relative barium yield.
TABLE III
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SYSTEM MAXIMUM RELATIVE
(percent weight for fuel)
INTENSITY, millivolts
Ba° 5535 A
Ba+ 4554 A
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17% BaCl2 -16% Ba(NO3)2 -67% N2 H4 /F2
27600
11800
13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4 /F2
23600
8340
21% BaCl2 -9% Ba(NO3)2 -70% N2 H4 /F2
20600
9100
9% BaCl2 -30% Ba(NO3)2 -61% N2 H4 /F2
16600
5970
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /F2
16600
6520
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /OF2
11800
2100
16.7% BaCl2 -83.3% N2 H4 /F2
9100 3350
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /F2
9000 1800
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
7300 1330
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
663 94
50% Ba(NO3)2 -50% NH3 /ClF3
221 44
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From the above information, it is readily seen that the 17 percent BaCl2 -16 percent Ba(NO3)2 -67 percent N2 H4 /F2 system gave the greatest amount of light intensity of the 4554 A Ba+ and 5535 A Ba° spectral lines. Ambient tests showed that the optimum oxidizer to fuel ratio of this system was 1.32 to 1.00. This system containing 8.52 weight percent barium was estimated to be 68.1 percent ionized. Also since this system had the largest relative light intensity it would be expected to give the greatest amount of Ba° and Ba+ and would appear to be the optimum system for a barium payload. In all systems tested it was found that the relative light reached a maximum at the O/F corresponding to the stoichiometric equation yielding barium as one of the reaction products and that the relative light output was sensitive to the O/F. Moving to either side of the optimum O/F caused a sharp decrease in relative light.
In vacuum tests the ignition of each system tested was smooth and like the ambient tests, took place in the combustion chamber. The rapid expansion in vacuum caused a decreased atom and ion density in the luminous flame which caused the light intensity to be about 1/37 to 1/50 the intensity measured in ambient tests. The percentage ionization was approximately the same for vacuum and ambient tests.
The operation of the invention is now believed apparent. Initially, fuel tank 11 is charged with the fuel containing the desired quantity of dissolved barium salt and pressurized with helium. The fuel tank pressure may be in the range of 6.89 to 20.06 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2. Oxidizer tank 13 is also charged with the appropriate oxidizer and pressurized. Cryogenic oxidizers such as OF2 and F2 are condensed from gases in the closed oxidizer tank which must be maintained enclosed in a liquid nitrogen bath. The oxidizer feed valve 23 and conduit 19 must also be maintained at liquid nitrogen temperature with a liquid nitrogen jacket when employing a cryogenic oxidizer.
The noncryogenic oxidizer, ClF3, may be pressurized into the closed oxidizer tank 13 from a supply bottle with super dry nitrogen.
Combustion chamber 15 is formed of stainless steel, aluminum, or the like F2 compatible metals and is internally partitioned by the manifold, not shown. The conduits 17 and 19 terminate in a manifold having injector orifices (not shown) mounted 90° to each other within each end of chamber 15 and sized for pressure drops of 5.24 to 10.2 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2 across the orifice. Fuel and oxidizer flows are in the range of 2.05 to 6.82 Kg/sec each. The entire system is carried into the upper atmosphere or interplanetary space by rocket vehicle 10 where, in response to a suitable signal, timing mechanism or the like, valves 21 and 23 may be selectively opened and closed and the pressurized liquid fuel and oxidizer will flow through conduits 17 and 19 into combination unit 15. When the hypergolic liquids impinge upon each other, they spontaneously ignite to expel reaction product gases or plasma including the highly luminous barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species. All of the barium reaching the combustion chamber is vaporized and released through the opposite ends thereof so that a high yield efficiency is obtained. The resulting high flame temperature, approximately 4,000°K., and some as yet not determined chemical activation, produces a relatively large amount of barium ions in the flame which is a highly desirable condition. It has been estimated from spectroscopic measurements that the degree of ionization may be as high as 75 percent in the released plasma in comparison to being on the order of 1 percent for the previously used Ba-CuO solid system which depends almost entirely on solar photoionization, a time-dependent phenomena which further reduces the usable barium yield of this known system.
Thus, it is readily apparent that the present invention provides an inherently more efficient process of producing barium clouds wherein the degree of ionization in the released plasma is much greater. The selectively opening and closing of valves 21 and 23 gives the possibility of a payload with multiple releases permitted due to the start and stop capabilities of the liquid system. Also, the liquid system of the present invention gives the possibility of controlling rates so that a trailtype release can be obtained as well as a point-source type. In addition, the liquid system of the present invention effects the formation of barium atoms and ions at the time of combustion and expansion at high temperatures and results in little opportunity for the barium to condense during release.
There are obviously many variations and modifications to the present invention that will be readily apparent to those skilled in the art without departing from the spirit or scope of the disclosure or from the scope of the claims.
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#juan

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch

tis amazing how quickly one resorts to using ridicule when one fails to come up with an argument...........

Show me one iota of proof that the government or some other agency has sprayed poison into the upper atmosphere. Why would anyone do this? Broadcasting poison that broadly would surely be self-defeating in that the poisoners would also be poisoned. Dopey idea.

Stretch

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Show me one iota of proof that the government or some other agency has sprayed poison into the upper atmosphere. Why would anyone do this? Broadcasting poison that broadly would surely be self-defeating in that the poisoners would also be poisoned. Dopey idea.

Chemtrails UK Government admits deadly spraying

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httpwwwyoutubecomwatchv3VLNNwiKvlE

#juan

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

What I gather from your article is that these tests were to determine how best to fight against a biological attack.
[QUOTE (from the article)]The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'[/QUOTE]

In any case the tests were done thirty to fifty years ago.

Stretch

#21

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Chemtrails UK Government admits deadly spraying

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchv3VLNNwiKvlE

Congressman Admits Chemtrail's

In what may be the first governmental acknowledgement of its kind, a public official from Cleveland, Ohio has referenced "chemtrails" in a bill put before congress. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D) has submitted bill no.-- , which proposes a ban on the weaponization of space. One of the weapons systems listed in the bill is "chemtrails". The use of this term is significant because until now, all reported governmental inquiries into this issue have been dismissed or denied. Agencies such as the Air Force have routinely called reports of chemtrails "a hoax". --

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Stretch

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Re: Chemtrails

Jun 3rd, 2008

Chemtrail Resources
Everything you ever wanted to know about chemtrails, persistent contrails, aerosol operations, aerial spraying, HARRP, weather modification...

Chemtrails, Persistent Contrails, Aerosol Spraying...
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Governments Experimenting on their Citizens
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Chemtrail Websites
Aerosol Operation Crimes and Cover-Up
Clifford E Carnicom
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Barium Blues
Lydia Mancini
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Chemtrail Campaigners
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Chemtrails Central
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Chemtrail Hall of Shame
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Chemtrails section of WillThomas.net
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Chemtrails 911
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Dave Hanson: Extensive list of Chemtrail sites and Articles
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Holmestead
Brian Holmes & Michelle Pilon
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Jeff Rense Chemtrails Data Page
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RadarMatrix
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Stop Chemtrails
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NZ Chemtrail Reports
Central North Island of NZ
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Chemtrails over New Zealand
Northland, Christchurch etc
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Northland Orbs plus excellent analysis
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These images were taken on Sunday 2 July 2000 above the northern suburbs of Wellington:
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The Weblog of Mathew Walker
Grey Beam sighting
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Aerosol Spraying and Geoengineering Patents

Atmospheric Geoengineering is occurring in our skies daily, and on a world-wide basis.
For those who doubt the feasibility of these special operations, just take a look at the following Patents.
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Laminar Microjet Atomiser and method of aerial spraying of liquids
United States Patent / 4,412,654 Yates / November 1, 1983
[Click here]

Liquid Atomising Apparatus for aerial spraying
United States Patent / 4,948,050 / Picot / August 14, 1990
[Click here]

Method and Apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
United States Patent 4,686,605 / Eastlund / August 11, 1987
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Method of Modifying Weather
United States Patent 6,315,213 / Cordani / November 13, 2001
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Process for Absorbing Ultraviolet Radiation using dispersed melanin
United States Patent / 5,286,979 / Berliner / February 15, 1994
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Rocket having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds in the Upper Atmosphere
United States Patent: - US3813875 / Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972
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Aircraft Factsheets

Airbus A320
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Airbus A330
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Airbus A380
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Boeing 737
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Boeing 747
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Boeing 767
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Boeing 777
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Boeing 787
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KC-10 Extender
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KC-135 Stratotanker
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Civil Aircraft Factsheets
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Military Aircraft Factsheets
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Australian Chemtrail Websites and Articles

Byron Bay Chemtrails
Australians are doing something about it!
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Chemtrails in the Skies over Canberra
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Chemtrail Photos from Australia
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dminoz (Blogger) Location: Victoria, Australia
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Gaiaguys - Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg
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Mass UFO Spectacle' near Quirindi, NSW
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Poison Planes - Peter Melov
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Chemtrail Chemical Composition

Barium Fluoride Optical Crystal - Safety Data Sheet
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Barium Tests
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Biological Components Identified
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Additional Biological Components Identified
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Biological Operations Confirmed
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Biologicals Reaffirmed
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Calcium and Potassium
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Chemtrail Aerosol Polymers you are Breathing
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Chemtrails - Bio-Active Crystalline Cationic Polymers
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How to spot Metals/Aluminium in Chemsprayed Rain
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Lab Tests and Health Effects
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Moulds Flourish, Illness Prevails
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NASA: Barium - Chemical Formulas/Suppliers
This is the "Description of Preferred Embodiments" link in the NASA Barium Patent listed in the Patents section above.
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Oregon Chemtrail Webs
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pH Drastic Changes
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pH Test Alert
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Sub-Micron Particulates Isolated
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Testing for Barium Titanate
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Chemtrail Debunkers and Skeptics

BLURFOs are not UFOs
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Contrails, or 'Trails-CON?
by Jay Reynolds
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James Randi Educational Foundation
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The Chemtrails Conspiracy
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Chemtrail Related Illness

Aluminium and Alzheimer's Disease
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Aluminium Toxicity in Edinburgh (1976)
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Boise Idaho: Strange Infection
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Chemtrails linked to Mystery Diseases?
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EU Membership buys you Chemtrails?
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Natural Medicine for the Times
by Dr. Gwen Scott, N.D.
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Poisoning by Toxic Metals
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Cloud and Weather Info

Hole Punch Clouds
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Is this an Aerosol "Bomb"?
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US Drought Monitor
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Weather Wars: a Weatherman's view - Anomalous cloud patterns.
Evidence of the use of HAARP?
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Contrail Resources

Climate Change and the future of air travel
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Huge Resource Page on contrails and associated aspects
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Links to Aerial Contrail Pictures
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NASA Contrail Studies
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Geoengineering Reports and Articles

Aspects of Geoengineering by Gregory Benford, professor of physics at the University of California
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Atmospheric Science Program and Aerosol Radiative forcing of Climate
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Climate Change Jekylls and Hydes
by Wayne Hall
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Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project
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Giant Space Shield plan to save Planet
by Mark Townsend
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Sunscreen for Planet Earth
by Edward Teller
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The 'Shield Project' or 'Operation Cloverleaf'
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Governments Experimenting on their Citizens

A History of Secret Human Experimentation
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A History of Human Experimentation on U.S. Citizens
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Human Experimentation, Plutonium, and Colonel Stafford Warren
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The Manhattan Project: a new and Secret World of Human Experimentation
[Click here]

The UK Ministry of Defence admits Experimenting on Public - 1940-1979

Greenpeace

The Great Riddle: Greenpeace and the Chemtrail Question
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The Greenpeace Mystery
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A Greenpeace Response
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Another Greenpeace Response
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Interesting Chemtrail Articles

Chemtrail Babe 2004
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Chemtrails and Terror in the Age of Nuclear War
By Amy Worthington
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Chemtrails of the World
by Mark Metcalf
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Chemtrails: Covert Immunisation Program or Surplus Population Reduction?
by Jim Marrs
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Chemtrails - Frequently Asked Questions
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Chemtrails 101
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Conversations on Chemtrails - The truth about what is happening in America
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Four Theories to Explain Chemtrails
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Helicopters Cometh... as do Chemtrails
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Jet Contrails may be Sickening People across the US
by William Thomas
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The Methodic Demise of Natural Earth - an Environmental Impact Overview
by Dr. R. Michael Castle
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Thoughts on Chemtrails after Seven Years of Watching
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White Skies - the Global Warming Problem and Chemtrails
by Gabriel Stetter).
<A href="http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/r+z.html" target=_blank>[Click here]

Interviews

Clifford Carnicom, Live on Coast-to-Coast AM radio with Barbara Simpson.
May 17, 2003
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The Nazi Flu Interview with Dr. Leonard Horowitz
The Case of the Strange Cold everybody has been getting - and Chemtrails
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Investigation Reports

A 16-hour period of Observation by Web, Telephone, and Amateur Radio of the skies over America and Central Europe, from first light to last light...
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105-day period Trail Research Report
This report is the result of research into the science of contrail formation and an analysis by observation and measurement of contrail persistence. "This research was inspired by the claims of an unnatural type of trail known as Chemtrails as an attempt to detect such trails…"
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Propaganda, Misinformation and Disinformation

Brazen Propaganda from NASA
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Disinformation
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NASA involved in Chemtrail cover-up?
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NASA Releases Disturbing Picture of Jet Contrails
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Teaching children about Chemtrails and Geoengineering the Earth
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Satellite Photos of Chemtrails

Chemtrails over Portugal/Spain
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GOES Satellite Images of Contrails-Chemtrails
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Real time Satellite Tracker
[Click here]

Scalar Technology used with HAARP and Chemtrails
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The Theft of Sunlight by Clifford E Carnicom
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Strange Technologies Associated with Chemtrails

Black Line Phenomenon (AKA Black Beams, Grey Beams)
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Experimental and Secret Aircraft
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Grey Beams (AKA Black Beams, Black Lines)
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Mystery Objects in Trails - Flying Robots?
by Brenda Livingston
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Also:

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National Aviation Reporting Centre on Anomalous Phenomena
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Weather Warfare

A Partial History of Aerosol and Weather Related Technologies
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Chemtrails - Covert Climate Control?
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Environmental Warfare and US Foreign Policy: The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction
by Scott Gilbert
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Rods from Gods: The insanity of Star Wars
by Bob Fitrakis
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Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons and their Terrorist Use: Immediate Strategic Aspects of the Asymmetric War on the U.S.
By Tom Bearden
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Space Preservation Act of 2001
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The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
by Michel Chossudovsky
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Threat of U.S. Geophysical Weapons faces Mankind
by Vladimir V. Sytin
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US HAARP Weapon: US could Dominate the Planet if it deploys this Weapon in Space
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Washington's New World Order Weapons have the ability to Trigger Climate Change
by Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa
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Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
- a Research Paper presented to Air Force 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr. LTC William B. Shields (USA), Maj Ronald J. Celentano, Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer and Maj James E. Pugh. August 1996
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Weather Warfare and HAARP Information

Did HAARP "plan Evil Weather" for December 7th? and what is the Source of the "Smoking Gun" Radar Anomaly?
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HAARP Audio
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HAARP info on the Crystalinks Website
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Official HAARP website
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Nexus Magazine Article: HAARP: Vandalism in the Sky
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VLF Pulses and HAARP
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Waihopai Spy base

Waihopai Article
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Waihopai Protest
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Echelon's Cover Blown - 120 Satellites monitor millions of Calls/Emails
By Alan Perrott and The Independent
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Echelon Spy Network
Questions in the Australian Senate asked by Senator Bob Brown.
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Nicky Hager addresses the Echelon Committee
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Peace Researcher: on former Canadian Signals Intelligence Officer Mike Frost
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World Information: an Interview with Nicky Hager
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Whistle Blowers

A Meeting: between an investigative researcher and a well-placed military source. The source has intimate knowledge of at least one aspect of the aerosol operations
by Clifford E Carnicom
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"Deep Shield"
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The Science of "Air Pharmacology" or "Chemtrails"
by Jim Phelps
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Wright-Patterson, Air Traffic Controllers vindicate Chemtrail Conspiracy "Theorists"
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quandary121

#23

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote:

Quote:
These are not contrails.?Chemtrail's
Congressman Admits Chemtrail'sIn what may be the first governmental acknowledgement of its kind, a public official from Cleveland, Ohio has referenced "chemtrails" in a bill put before congress. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D) has submitted bill no. HR 2977 IH , which proposes a ban on the weaponization of space. One of the weapons systems listed in the bill is "chemtrails". The use of this term is significant because until now, all reported governmental inquiries into this issue have been dismissed or denied. Agencies such as the Air Force have routinely called reports of chemtrails "a hoax".
Quote has been trimmed

There all over the world in different country's
it wont be bird flu that makes you sick.

Last edited by quandary121; Jun 5th, 2008 at 04:36 PM..

scratch

#24

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121

There all over the world in different country's it wont be bird flu that makes you sick.

IMPHO ( In My Personal Humble Opinion ) Now it has been confirmed that you are a space cadet akin to "Duck Dodgers" or " Marvin Martian". Downloading is easy, understanding or believing what you download is very tricky. Your personal opinion or observation on these would be greatly appreciated.
IMPHO, you have too much time on your hands and should be aspiring to do something about that. It is easy enough to ignore you but I do not approve of what I consider to be "fear mongering or trolling." In the future have consideration for your fellow members and abide by the Forum rules.

quandary121

#25

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by scratch

IMPHO (
Quote:
In My Personal Humble Opinion
) Now it has been confirmed that you are a space cadet akin to "Duck Dodgers" or " Marvin Martian". Downloading is easy, understanding or believing what you download is very tricky. Your personal opinion or observation on these would be greatly appreciated.
IMPHO, you have too much time on your hands and should be aspiring to do something about that. It is easy enough to ignore you but I do not approve of what I consider to be "fear mongering or trolling." In the future have consideration for your fellow members and abide by the Forum rules.

Do you think telling people the truth about there "sky's" is trolling and scaremongering you name one paper headline that don't speak in such terms what would you like to hear about animal"crudity or human "......

Last edited by quandary121; Jun 5th, 2008 at 04:29 PM..Reason: im new here

lone wolf

#26

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Spamming is against the RULES. They apply to you too

Woof!

quandary121

#27

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

Spamming is against the RULES. They apply to you too

Woof!

Tell me what the difference from -- post to mine? and i will bow to your superior knowledge about how to post in a forum ?

You will not post what is commonly called spam, which includes but is not limited to such things as advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, solicitations, or promoting a particular cause or organization. Exceptions may be granted for worthy (in our sole opinion) causes if you obtain prior permission from us;

This site is intended to be a medium for public discussion. You are free to express your views forcefully but we require you to remain civil. Insults, hate speech, and deliberately inflammatory statements, commonly known as trolling, are not acceptable. Do not threaten anyone or any group or suggest they are deserving of harm.

Last edited by quandary121; Jun 5th, 2008 at 04:59 PM..

lone wolf

#28

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

If someone disagrees with you - as often happens in discussion - they are subject to your snide remarks and rude comments (in my case, it was threats on my wall) That goes way beyond civil discussion into the realm of trolling - which is a rules violation.

Last edited by lone wolf; Jun 5th, 2008 at 05:38 PM..

quandary121

#29

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

If someone disagrees with you - as often happens in discussion - they are subject to yor snide remarks and rude comments (
Quote:
in my case, it was threats on my wall
) That goes way beyond civil discussion into the realm of trolling - which is a rules violation.

You profane too much there were never "THREATS" on your wall you know it.!!!! And i know it.!!! as you would have told a modirater if i had. it was a comical remark about a stone, that you can read in my other thread also, don't play the innocent with me trying to build up your vengeance against me i have done you no threats and you know it BUD.!!!

Dexter Sinister

#30

Re: Chemtrails

Jun 5th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121

Do you think telling people the truth about there "sky's" is trolling and scaremongering...

No, but that's not what you're doing. You're spamming the forum with dozens, possibly hundreds (I didn't bother counting them) of links to paranoid conspiracy theories. Try a couple of proven reliable and credible sources, instead of those endless lists of woo-woo sites, and apply some relatively simple logic:

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(in particular I refer you to the first two sentences of the last paragraph of that one.)
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Bear the following caution in mind: about 90% of what's out there on the Internet is crap. (Google for "Sturgeon's Law") There are no truth or quality standards, there's no peer review, it's wide open to anybody. Idiots with an ax to grind and a minimum of computing knowledge can make whatever nonsense and sloppy thinking strikes them as true that day available to the world. And a lot of them do. Be careful out there.

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