Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America’s Army of Fascism

[copenhagensgood]

RE: Worker Bees and Soldi

Would you guys still believe this if John Kerry was elected a few months ago? *Just asking, not starting a fight.

 

[copenhagensgood]

RE: Worker Bees and Soldi

Would you guys still believe this if John Kerry was elected a few months ago? *Just asking, not starting a fight.

 

[PatrickB1978]

At this point, I doubt very much would be different. Kerry wouldn't just leave Iraq, witout some semblence of a 'Mission Accomplished', except for real this time. Kerry would have quashed Bush's domestic policy issues (SSecurity, Gay Marriage Amend.), but it is really hard to say what Kerry would do differently, foreign policy-wise, being so early in the campaign. It is rumored that Clinton wanted to invade Iraq in 1999, but was lacking in presidential capital thanks to Monica-gate. I am of the belief that most Democrats, especially Presidential candidates, are just as prone to be hawkish as their Republican couterparts, especially when it suits them politically. Anyways, I apologize if my answer in vague.

 

[PatrickB1978]

At this point, I doubt very much would be different. Kerry wouldn't just leave Iraq, witout some semblence of a 'Mission Accomplished', except for real this time. Kerry would have quashed Bush's domestic policy issues (SSecurity, Gay Marriage Amend.), but it is really hard to say what Kerry would do differently, foreign policy-wise, being so early in the campaign. It is rumored that Clinton wanted to invade Iraq in 1999, but was lacking in presidential capital thanks to Monica-gate. I am of the belief that most Democrats, especially Presidential candidates, are just as prone to be hawkish as their Republican couterparts, especially when it suits them politically. Anyways, I apologize if my answer in vague.

 

[PatrickB1978]

At this point, I doubt very much would be different. Kerry wouldn't just leave Iraq, witout some semblence of a 'Mission Accomplished', except for real this time. Kerry would have quashed Bush's domestic policy issues (SSecurity, Gay Marriage Amend.), but it is really hard to say what Kerry would do differently, foreign policy-wise, being so early in the campaign. It is rumored that Clinton wanted to invade Iraq in 1999, but was lacking in presidential capital thanks to Monica-gate. I am of the belief that most Democrats, especially Presidential candidates, are just as prone to be hawkish as their Republican couterparts, especially when it suits them politically. Anyways, I apologize if my answer in vague.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fascism

Sorry, but the US has followed a bloody path for many, many years. At this point, I have to believe that the American people support it, if only by default. There has been election after election after election wherein the American people have been offered an opportunity for change, but they continue to vote for the status quo. Arguments that Americans haven't had a choice just don't wash. Sorry. One would think that Americans would have learned from their Vietnam debacle. Americans are in the dark because they want to be. Yes, there individuals who know what is going on, but not many.

Read Fascism Watch: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Fascism.html

"Fascism - extreme racial or cultural nationalism combined with economic corporatism and authoritarian autocracy; masked during its rise to state power by pseudo-radical populist appeals to overthrow a conspiratorial elitist regime; spurred by a strong charismatic leader whose reactionary ideas are said to organically express the will of the masses who are urged to engage in a heroic collective effort to attain a metaphysical goal against the machinations of a scapegoated demonized adversary."

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fascism

Sorry, but the US has followed a bloody path for many, many years. At this point, I have to believe that the American people support it, if only by default. There has been election after election after election wherein the American people have been offered an opportunity for change, but they continue to vote for the status quo. Arguments that Americans haven't had a choice just don't wash. Sorry. One would think that Americans would have learned from their Vietnam debacle. Americans are in the dark because they want to be. Yes, there individuals who know what is going on, but not many.

Read Fascism Watch: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Fascism.html

"Fascism - extreme racial or cultural nationalism combined with economic corporatism and authoritarian autocracy; masked during its rise to state power by pseudo-radical populist appeals to overthrow a conspiratorial elitist regime; spurred by a strong charismatic leader whose reactionary ideas are said to organically express the will of the masses who are urged to engage in a heroic collective effort to attain a metaphysical goal against the machinations of a scapegoated demonized adversary."

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fascism

Sorry, but the US has followed a bloody path for many, many years. At this point, I have to believe that the American people support it, if only by default. There has been election after election after election wherein the American people have been offered an opportunity for change, but they continue to vote for the status quo. Arguments that Americans haven't had a choice just don't wash. Sorry. One would think that Americans would have learned from their Vietnam debacle. Americans are in the dark because they want to be. Yes, there individuals who know what is going on, but not many.

Read Fascism Watch: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Fascism.html

"Fascism - extreme racial or cultural nationalism combined with economic corporatism and authoritarian autocracy; masked during its rise to state power by pseudo-radical populist appeals to overthrow a conspiratorial elitist regime; spurred by a strong charismatic leader whose reactionary ideas are said to organically express the will of the masses who are urged to engage in a heroic collective effort to attain a metaphysical goal against the machinations of a scapegoated demonized adversary."

 

[PatrickB1978]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I voted for Nader in 2000, and because people tried to break the status quo, Bush was elected. I live in Texas, so it didn't really matter who I voted for(Bush Country), but people in states like Florida who voted for Nader pretty much cost us the election. So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

 

[PatrickB1978]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I voted for Nader in 2000, and because people tried to break the status quo, Bush was elected. I live in Texas, so it didn't really matter who I voted for(Bush Country), but people in states like Florida who voted for Nader pretty much cost us the election. So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

 

[PatrickB1978]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I voted for Nader in 2000, and because people tried to break the status quo, Bush was elected. I live in Texas, so it didn't really matter who I voted for(Bush Country), but people in states like Florida who voted for Nader pretty much cost us the election. So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

I know. I'm sure you feel somewhat sidelined down there. I have relatives in the US. Some of them are considering moving to Canada to escape the constant beligerence. The last time I was in the US I felt like I'd gone through a time warp back to the 1950's.

The important thing to remember about fascism is that it's a top -> down command structure; in short, fascism is corporatism. The thugs at the bottom are just witless pawns. Don't judge fascism by the brownshirts; judge it by the power structure.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

I know. I'm sure you feel somewhat sidelined down there. I have relatives in the US. Some of them are considering moving to Canada to escape the constant beligerence. The last time I was in the US I felt like I'd gone through a time warp back to the 1950's.

The important thing to remember about fascism is that it's a top -> down command structure; in short, fascism is corporatism. The thugs at the bottom are just witless pawns. Don't judge fascism by the brownshirts; judge it by the power structure.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

So, some have tried to break the status quo, only to have it blow up in our faces.

I know. I'm sure you feel somewhat sidelined down there. I have relatives in the US. Some of them are considering moving to Canada to escape the constant beligerence. The last time I was in the US I felt like I'd gone through a time warp back to the 1950's.

The important thing to remember about fascism is that it's a top -> down command structure; in short, fascism is corporatism. The thugs at the bottom are just witless pawns. Don't judge fascism by the brownshirts; judge it by the power structure.

 

[missile]

Regarding John Kerry and George Bush: IMHO George is the better of the two and the US would have suffered under any administration with Kerry as its leader. I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

 

[missile]

Regarding John Kerry and George Bush: IMHO George is the better of the two and the US would have suffered under any administration with Kerry as its leader. I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

 

[missile]

Regarding John Kerry and George Bush: IMHO George is the better of the two and the US would have suffered under any administration with Kerry as its leader. I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

Me too. Moreover, I find it strange that Americans look to the Dems to provide an alternative to the GOP. It won't happen. They have both been co-opted by the corporatists. This was pretty obvious 40 years ago.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

Me too. Moreover, I find it strange that Americans look to the Dems to provide an alternative to the GOP. It won't happen. They have both been co-opted by the corporatists. This was pretty obvious 40 years ago.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Re: RE: Worker Bees and Soldier Ants: America?s Army of Fasc

I just found it strange that Kerry was even chosen to be the Dems frontman[there were far stronger contenders].

Me too. Moreover, I find it strange that Americans look to the Dems to provide an alternative to the GOP. It won't happen. They have both been co-opted by the corporatists. This was pretty obvious 40 years ago.