selfactivated
ersecution? Why would they bother if they wanted to persecute you? If they really wished ill of you then wouldn't it make more sense to simply leave you to your fate?
Now can you see what is happening?
But that is not the way of
some christians, nor those of other religions! It would seem that many religious persons,
(and certainly some of those in positions of religious authority, who should know better!) are not happy until they have aggressively, either converted, verbally abused, held in contempt those of other denominations, or, tsk tsk, the non religious; Who have employed sarcastic rhetoric in order to boost their own self percieved grandeur, or whatever... the list goes on; until they have achieved their aims! Why would they bother? Because they are fanatics, and despotic in their desire to persecute those that refuse to adhere to their own ideals! They are so tunnel visioned that they leave no room for further concepts, either scientific or philosophical, in their own minds!
Devil worship comes in many forms. It comes by doing things the Devil wants and God doesn't, the most severe of these is allegiance to the prince of darkness. This could be swearing,masturbating,stealing,etc. When this happens the Devil leaves a person alone, and makes sure earthly things he can control goes his way. Why set up roadblocks when the deceived person is heading in his direction.?
Utter nonsense! Not worthy of intellectual discussion!
The one casting spells assumes incorrectly he's always in control. It never occurs to these that payment will be demanded and contracts are signed in the process. No one is ever in control of anything good on his own if it weren't for the help of grace.
You're not only assuming that modern day Pagans and Witches cast spells, (evil or good, I wouldn't know, I'm not religious) but making a leap of faith in your own grandiose by the sweeping statement that they, ie: the spell casters, are not in control! Tell me, do you know
all of the secrets of the universe? Must be nice to be so 'in the know!' Say, didn't Jesus cast spells? Come to think of it, he cast demons outta two guys and turned the demons into pigs; let's not go there regarding the bible and magic and miracles eh?
Ever the opportunist, the mechanism to invoke the Devil is not all that complicated. He addresses God and states a soul desires him through the sinful act of invoking the dead or worshipping nature, and the conversation would go something like this. The Lord may say "No, not sufficient enough." He then says "Look he doesn't even worship you, so in your agreement on the rule of desire I am allowed my wish". God relents and he has his way. So we can see God doesn't do anything to the person as he loves him, but he does revoke the further grace that he would deserve to fend off evil leaving him in a more precarious position. This is what the person desired, so he got what he wanted.
Did these poor souls get what they wanted, in these turf wars, from this ever loving, graceful God?
Deuteronomy 7:1-2
When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girga****es, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you- and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy
Or this poor 'sinner?'
Numbers 15:32-36
"And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.... And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses."
Not only the incredible severity of the sentence, but the sheer cruelty of the method deserves comment. God ordered the man be executed by stoning, a sentence which involves burying the condemned in a pit, then gathering a crowd to throw stones at his head until he dies.
One could go on and bring hundreds of texts from this 'merciful and all loving God' to your attention; I don't doubt that you would be able to explain them for the benefit of your own delusional satisfaction, but, wouldn't put them in a Christian manifesto, would you?
Now back to our scene which could be an ouijia board invocation. The person asks for a spirit of his mother...
Completely off topic!
Nature worship falls under the same lines, as worship is reserved for God only.
For Christians yes! But here's the thing: It may come as a surprise to you but Christianity is a
fairly new religion... of course it is not as new as say, Mormon, or Scientology, but all the same, to many it is just a couple of thousand years old fad! But, guess what... the world is full of many millions of good decent folk; law abiding, love thy neighbour, non combative, hard working, willing and able, young and old, honest folk who don't subscribe to Christianity, or, like myself, any religion.
And yes, Pagans and Wiccans included!
Innocent play turns into more serious tampering because of the compounding effect of sin. Tiring of playing up to the wishes of these inferior souls...
Good grief! What, inferior to you, do you mean? Such arrogance!
toward the end the devil makes it known that he wishes more proof of the recognition of his kingship, and payment for all he has given, and also to offend God the more. He suggests that infant sacrifice be made, and sexual orgies become common...
Ah! Do you mean sacrifices summat like 'God' demanded? I could go there if you like...
We are intelligent beings. We can use our intellect to see God in all His created things and to know and appreciate the difference.
Or not, just as we please... doesn't mean to say that we are subnormal, unintelligent or inferior simply because we don't believe in your God!
We can stay away from the knowledge that Pan sought and seek wisdom instead. We can heed the warnings of our ancestors and find true happiness by serving God and our neighbour and doing our duty to honour Him. We should seek out the light and not things that are dark and will eventually experience true death.
Oh, gimme a break! this is nothing more than sanctimonious pontification! Many here seek light and wisdom, who serve the true meaning of happiness, and loving thy neighbour, who want peace, not wars, (how many have been fought in the name of religion?) who want to care for those that cannot care for themselves, children and animals; many souls seek harmony and understanding, of all life, but, they are not necessarily Christians!
