Why Hezbollah was victorious

[Caleb-Dain Matton]

4 reasons

1. If you look at the dead soldier to dead civilian ratio on both sides, Hezbollah was more accuate in restricting deaths to Israeli soldiers. If success is measured by limiting civilian deaths versus soldier's deaths then Hezbollah was the victor compared to Israel who inproportionally killed great numbers of Labanese civilians compared to Hezbolla fighters.

This is interesting if you take in perspective's both sides ambitions. Hezbollah is suppose to be the terrorist in the eyes of the West, aren't they? This means that their ambitions is to terrify or kill without mercy -- or certainly kill without accuracy. But, instead their ratio and limitation of Israeli civilian death was evident. As for Israel (a government with supposed pin-point accurate weapons championing ethics), their lack of concern for Labanese and poor success rate in terms of ratio is now questioned as to who is really the terrorist.

2. Hezbollah sentiment in the West is low because of the propagation of Hezbollah as terrorists. Therefore, they had nothing to lose in the eyes of the West. However, interestingly but not surprisingly their support actually rised within the Labanese population and surrounding countries such as Syria and Iran. They even gained support from anyone opposed to Israeli terrorism. In the case of Israel, they did not gain anymore support from those who already praise them. But their overall sentiment has dropped from those Muslim peoples who did not have an opinion of Israel before hand (ie, children, civilians who were ignorant of politics but are now displaced).

3. The demoralization of israel. Israel thought that this would have been a cake-walk. That their supremacy in weaponry would have crushed Hezbollah and then Hamas. Instead they leave with their tails tucked behind.

4. Lastly, they never did get their two soldiers back.

Hezbollah = the true combatants of terrorism. As for #4; nothing the CIA has never done before.

 

[fuflans]

Wasn't Hezbollah supposed to have fired thousands of rockets into Israel? Maybe the low civilian death totals are more of a statement to their technological shortcomings than of their desire to avoid civilian casualties.

 

[Mogz]

1. You know, I keep hearing how Hezbollah had a higher soldier to civilian kill ratio, yet what a lot of people really fail to realize is where the war is taking place. Lebanon, not Israel. First and foremost though let me touch on military losses. Hezbollah (to my knowledge) has claimed the loss of 50 fighers. The IDF claimed to have killed 100+ fighters on July 22nd alone. The IDF would be in a better position to report on the number of enemy dead for two reaons. First, they're advancing over Hezbollah positions, and therefore the rear echelon units have to police the dead bodies, making it very easy to count what they're putting in the ground. Secondly, Muslim armies and/or militant groups have a long history of blatantly lying about the casualties they sustain. An excellent example of this is what we see in Afghanistan. Complex, large-scale, Operations in the South yield hundreds of dead militants, yet the Taliban and Al-qaeda only claim a fraction of the casualties. In Spin Boldak region alone the 1st Battalion PPCLI has killed (according to the CF DIN) 300+ militants in four (4) months of fighting. The militants claim to be winning the war in that region, having lost only a small fraction of the number confirmed by the Patricia's. The IDF in Lebanon has claimed well in advance of 300 Hezbollah fighters killed, and this is only in land operations. There is no telling how many fighers were killed via the Israeli Air Force. Secondly, and more importantly, the number of civilians cannot be used as a benchmark for the conflict. The war is occuring in Lebanon, therefore it stands to reason that Lebanese civilians WILL be killed with a higher rate than Israeli. Look at World War II. Canada killed literally THOUSDANDS of European civilians when we fought in Europe, yet we lost only a handful of Canadian civilians to the war. Should one deduce that Germany won the war because we killed their citizens at a higher rate than they killed ours? Or for that matter should Canada be labled a terrorists for fighting a war, in an urban setting, and inadvertantly killing civilians? It's pretty stupid to assume that the IDF are terrorizing Lebanese and/or should be held accountable for civilian casualties that were suffered fighting in an urban environment, in a war they didn't start. Lastly, what do you want to bet that those civilians casualties in Lebanon are both inflated and include Hezbollah fighers killed in air strikes? I'd bet your left nut.

2. Do you honestly think Israel cares what anyone thinks? They don't, not Hezbollah, Syria, even the U.S. Israel is out for number one. They don't care about the geopolitical ramifications of their war, they don't care who sides with who. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll understand that your skewed opinion of this conflict really amounts to nothing more than you being pro-hezbollah.


3. Demoralization? Hahaha, you really are one of those people who live in a bubble aren't you? Israel has withdrawn due to political pressure. Their casualties (both militarily and civilian) are light. They put over 30,000 IDF troops in to Lebanon and suffered 118 KIA. A drop in the bucket, especially to the battle hardened IDF. You may think they're retreating with their tails tucked, but in reality they're going home because they've won. They're getting a buffer zone between Israel and Hezbollah and there has been great pressure for Hezbollah to disarm. No, Israel won this conflict, as they've won every other one.

4. You're right they didn't, but they punched a huge whole in Hezbollah. Worth two lives i'll say. Now i'm just going to sit back and awaiting the international community forcing Hezbollah to disarm. Or if they don't, watching the IDF role back in to Lebanon.

 

[thomaska]

There is an Islamic doctrine of "necessity" called Darura. This when the enemy is percieived to have overwhelming power and is undefeatable and is the only acceptable reason for accepting a ceasefire. Of course in their culture they also save face according to their perverted logic.

When you combine this with Islam's record of accepting a ceasefire or a truce only to renege on it as soon as they are in a more powerful(or they percieve it being a more powerful) position, of course the Muslims see this as being a victory. Because as soon as they think they can "hack" it, they will try again.

There can be no lasting peace by accepting dhimmitude from the Islamic world. They only understand power, and the fact that those they may be attacking are capable of unleashing even more unbelieveable violence and destruction than they are themselves.

 

[earth_as_one]

It appears Hezbollah won most ground battles involving infantry, tanks and low flying aircraft. Clearly Israel dominated the airpace. Hezbollah's civilian killing abilty was somewhat inferior to Israel's ability to pummel civilians with impunity.

But victorious? That's premature. Neither side has conceded the war is over.

If Israel's objective was to bomb Hezbollah out of existance, they failed.

If Hezbollah's objective was to survive then they succeeded.

What are Hezbollah's obligations?

For starters Hezbollah wasn't directly consulted about the terms of a ceasefire involving them as one of the belligerents.

Is Hezbollah obligated to follow terms dictated by Israel and the US to the French?

Nasrallah's words:

...Nasrallah said it was unethical for the Lebanese government to put the question of disarming Hezbollah to the public, particularly as Hezbollah fighters battled Israel while government ministers sat comfortably in their air-conditioned offices...

...the Lebanese army is incapable of confronting the Israeli army and reiterated the necessity of keeping the resistance movement in Lebanon alive to stand up to Israel should the need arise...

http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=272534&selected=Analyses

Hezbollah has agreed to observe a truce, not end the war.

Hezbollah agrees to observe truce

BEIRUT, Aug 12: Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said on Saturday his guerillas would observe a UN resolution to end fighting with Israel once the timing of the truce was agreed and adhered to by Israel.

He said Hezbollah had the right to resist Israeli soldiers while they remain inside Lebanon, but would cooperate with Lebanese soldiers and UN troops due to be deployed to southern Lebanon as part of the Security Council resolution.

“Once there is an agreement to stop the so-called military operations or the aggressive operations ... the resistance will adhere to it without hesitation,” he said in a televised speech.

“We have said before that we agree to the deployment of the Lebanese army supported by the UNIFIL forces ... They will receive the full cooperation and facilitation of the resistance,” he said.

“As long as there is Israeli military movement, Israeli field aggression and Israeli soldiers occupying our land ... it is out natural right to confront them, fight them and defend our land, our homes, and ourselves.”

Mr Nasrallah said that Hezbollah would wait for the cabinet to make a formal response to the UN resolution rather than pre-empt its decision.

“We find some aspects of the resolution unfair and unjust ... it blames the resistance which only carried out a limited military operation,” said Mr Nasrallah, adding however that it could have been much worse.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/08/13/top3.htm

I doubt this is over as far as Israel is concerned either.

Israel and the US decided to invade and occupy Lebanon was made long before Hezbollah captured the Israeli soldiers:

Washington’s interests in Israel’s war.
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH

Issue of 2006-08-21
Posted 2006-08-14

...The U.S. government consultant with close ties to Israel told me, however, that, from Israel’s perspective, the decision to take strong action had become inevitable weeks earlier, after the Israeli Army’s signals intelligence group, known as Unit 8200, picked up bellicose intercepts in late spring and early summer, involving Hamas, Hezbollah, and Khaled Meshal, the Hamas leader now living in Damascus...

...Uzi Arad, who served for more than two decades in the Mossad, told me...“For the life of me, I’ve never seen a decision to go to war taken so speedily,” he said. “We usually go through long analyses.”...

... “Israel studied the Kosovo war as its role model,” the government consultant said. “The Israelis told Condi Rice, ‘You did it in about seventy days, but we need half of that—thirty-five days.’ ”...

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/

I doubt Israel will leave Lebanon completely and I doubt Hezbollah will disarm and leave their fortified positions.

So it a question of when not if the fighting will resume.


Related:

July 19, 2000

In Long Fight With Israel, Hezbollah Tactics Evolved
By JOHN KIFNER

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hizbz.htm

Lebanon, and the "Peace Process"
Noam Chomsky
Z Magazine, April 23, 1996

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19960423.htm

 

[thomaska]

Heres my position on every conflict, and I'm sure the Israelis share it:

Life and liberty at any cost is better than peace at any cost.

 

[gc]

2. Hezbollah sentiment in the West is low because of the propagation of Hezbollah as terrorists. Therefore, they had nothing to lose in the eyes of the West. However, interestingly but not surprisingly their support actually rised within the Labanese population and surrounding countries such as Syria and Iran. They even gained support from anyone opposed to Israeli terrorism. In the case of Israel, they did not gain anymore support from those who already praise them. But their overall sentiment has dropped from those Muslim peoples who did not have an opinion of Israel before hand (ie, children, civilians who were ignorant of politics but are now displaced).

So what you are saying is that in the west, hezbollah went from being hated to still being hated, while Israel went from having support to having slightly less support? And that means they won? Just because everyone in the west already hates them so much that they have nothing to loose?

And who cares what extremists in Syria and Iran think....if they think you are doing something wrong, then you are probably doing something right (and vice-versa).

3. The demoralization of israel. Israel thought that this would have been a cake-walk. That their supremacy in weaponry would have crushed Hezbollah and then Hamas. Instead they leave with their tails tucked behind.

If Israel hadn't held back, I'm sure they could have crush hezbollah. For example, what do you think would have happened if Israel dropped a nuke on Lebanon? Thankfully, they held back, otherwise it would have been disastrous. But that doesn't mean they don't have the ability to crush them if they wanted to.

The rest of the questions have already been answered by Mogz, and I have nothing more to add to them.

 

[wallyj]

CDM.you are a piece of work. Hopefully after a few more "victories" the Hezbolla will be totally wiped out.

 

[Logic 7]

RE: Why Hezbollah was vic

The ones who certainly lost, isnt hezbollah or israel idf, but civilians from both sides, who cares who really win?

 

[tamarin]

H won? News to me. The only side occupying 'enemy' territory and moving relentlessly ahead was Israel. Looks like we'll have a rerun in the not too distant future. Then we can revisit 'who won' with a little more certainty.

 

[Hotshot]

There were no winners in this one, only losers, that being the innocent civilians who lost their lives. Also the hezbollah who wasted a lot of missles!

 

[Finder]

I'm no fan of Isreal, in fact I think Isreal is a very big problem with the mid-east peace plan, HOWEVER!!! Hezbollah is fu*king lucky the world wanted Isreal to stop bombing. These delussional lunitics think they won!!! They were about to be decimated if Isreal had not caved into international pressure.

Lebanon will need to insure that Hezbollah get's disarmed or for Hezbollahs sack Isreal will destory them.

fantic morons, both sides!

 

[Hotshot]

fantic morons, both sides!

No, Israel were not morons. They had every right to defend themselves. Its hezbollah who are the morons, and Lebanon if they don't eradicate the hezbollah.

 

[Lineman]

Israel killed civilians despite making every effort not to while Hezbullah killed fewer civilians while making every effort to kill more.

 

[earth_as_one]

Re: RE: Why Hezbollah was victorious

Israel killed civilians despite making every effort not to while Hezbullah killed fewer civilians while making every effort to kill more.

Are you sure? How do you know? Where you there? Did your idiot box tell you? The idiot box wouldn't try to decieve you?

Human Rights Watch
August 3, 2006

The 50-page report, “Fatal Strikes: Israel’s Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon,” analyzes almost two dozen cases of Israeli air and artillery attacks on civilian homes and vehicles. Of the 153 dead civilians named in the report, 63 are children. More than 500 people have been killed in Lebanon by Israeli fire since fighting began on July 12, most of them civilians.

“The pattern of attacks shows the Israeli military’s disturbing disregard for the lives of Lebanese civilians,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “Our research shows that Israel’s claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel’s indiscriminate warfare.”

The report is based on extensive interviews with victims and witnesses of attacks, visits to some blast sites, and information obtained from hospitals, humanitarian groups, security forces and government agencies. Human Rights Watch also conducted research in Israel, assessing the weapons used by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

Human Rights Watch researchers found numerous cases in which the IDF launched artillery and air attacks with limited or dubious military objectives but excessive civilian cost. In many cases, Israeli forces struck an area with no apparent military target. In some instances, Israeli forces appear to have deliberately targeted civilians.

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/08/02/lebano13902.htm

Deliberately targeted civilians??? That must contradict your perception.

So you are sure you know exactly what happened? Well then you must know more that the UN Human Rights Commission which has launched an investigation into alleged Israeli war crimes:

U.N. Rights Body Condemns Israel for War
Friday August 11, 2006

(AP) - The U.N. Human Rights Council on Friday condemned Israel for ``massive bombardment of Lebanese civilian populations'' and other ``systematic'' human rights violations, and decided to send a commission to investigate...

...The council voted 27-11 to pass the resolution, which was proposed by the 57-country Organization of the Islamic Conference. Among those voting for the resolution were China, Russia, India, Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay, Zambia and South Africa.

...``Israeli military operations in Lebanon, which constitute gross and systematic human rights violations'' and ``the massive bombardment of Lebanese civilian populations, especially the massacres in Qana,'' where 28 people were killed in a July 30 Israeli airstrike, and other Lebanese towns.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6009593,00.html

But the stats speak for themselves:

Lebanon lost 1300 civilians (35 military, 85-500? Hezbollah), 3600 wounded (80 military) and 1,000,000 displaced.

Israel lost 53 civilians (~120 military), 1350 wounded (400 military) and 500,000 displaced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Overall

Still think you know? Take a look for yourself.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES of ISRAELI/LEBANON WAR

Qana
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12011945@N00/sets/72157594217117891/

PhotoLebanon
http://www.lebanonlinks.com/photos.asp?album=photo_lebanon_israel_2006_war

Lebanese Blogger Forum
http://lebanonheartblogs.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-strong-pictures.html

 

[Toro]

RE: Why Hezbollah was vic

If you bring it down to strategic objectives, the terrorists did win. Israel invaded to crush Hezbollah. They failed. Hezbollah started the war it had been planning for some time to increase its standing in the Islamic world while not being destroyed in the process. They succeeded.

Of course, its kind of like losing a hockey game 4-0 and claiming victory because you were expecting to lose 10-0.

 

[earth_as_one]

That's a little simplistic. Consider this:

WATCHING LEBANON
Washington’s interests in Israel’s war.
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2006-08-21
Posted 2006-08-14

...According to a Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of both the Israeli and the U.S. governments, Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah—and shared it with Bush Administration officials—well before the July 12th kidnappings. “It’s not that the Israelis had a trap that Hezbollah walked into,” he said, “but there was a strong feeling in the White House that sooner or later the Israelis were going to do it.”...

...Several current and former officials involved in the Middle East told me that Israel viewed the soldiers’ kidnapping as the opportune moment to begin its planned military campaign against Hezbollah. “Hezbollah, like clockwork, was instigating something small every month or two,” the U.S. government consultant with ties to Israel said...

...Earlier this summer, before the Hezbollah kidnappings, the U.S. government consultant said, several Israeli officials visited Washington, separately, “to get a green light for the bombing operation and to find out how much the United States would bear.” The consultant added, “Israel began with Cheney. It wanted to be sure that it had his support and the support of his office and the Middle East desk of the National Security Council.” After that, “persuading Bush was never a problem, and Condi Rice was on board,” the consultant said.

The initial plan, as outlined by the Israelis, called for a major bombing campaign in response to the next Hezbollah provocation, according to the Middle East expert with knowledge of U.S. and Israeli thinking. Israel believed that, by targeting Lebanon’s infrastructure, including highways, fuel depots, and even the civilian runways at the main Beirut airport, it could persuade Lebanon’s large Christian and Sunni populations to turn against Hezbollah, according to the former senior intelligence official...

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060821fa_fact

 

[Lineman]

Re: RE: Why Hezbollah was victorious

Israel killed civilians despite making every effort not to while Hezbullah killed fewer civilians while making every effort to kill more.

Are you sure? How do you know? Where you there? Did your idiot box tell you? The idiot box wouldn't try to decieve you?

Human Rights Watch
August 3, 2006

The 50-page report, “Fatal Strikes: Israel’s Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon,” analyzes almost two dozen cases of Israeli air and artillery attacks on civilian homes and vehicles. Of the 153 dead civilians named in the report, 63 are children. More than 500 people have been killed in Lebanon by Israeli fire since fighting began on July 12, most of them civilians.

“The pattern of attacks shows the Israeli military’s disturbing disregard for the lives of Lebanese civilians,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “Our research shows that Israel’s claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel’s indiscriminate warfare.”

The report is based on extensive interviews with victims and witnesses of attacks, visits to some blast sites, and information obtained from hospitals, humanitarian groups, security forces and government agencies. Human Rights Watch also conducted research in Israel, assessing the weapons used by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

Human Rights Watch researchers found numerous cases in which the IDF launched artillery and air attacks with limited or dubious military objectives but excessive civilian cost. In many cases, Israeli forces struck an area with no apparent military target. In some instances, Israeli forces appear to have deliberately targeted civilians.

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/08/02/lebano13902.htm

Deliberately targeted civilians??? That must contradict your perception.

So you are sure you know exactly what happened? Well then you must know more that the UN Human Rights Commission which has launched an investigation into alleged Israeli war crimes:

U.N. Rights Body Condemns Israel for War
Friday August 11, 2006

(AP) - The U.N. Human Rights Council on Friday condemned Israel for ``massive bombardment of Lebanese civilian populations'' and other ``systematic'' human rights violations, and decided to send a commission to investigate...

...The council voted 27-11 to pass the resolution, which was proposed by the 57-country Organization of the Islamic Conference. Among those voting for the resolution were China, Russia, India, Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay, Zambia and South Africa.

...``Israeli military operations in Lebanon, which constitute gross and systematic human rights violations'' and ``the massive bombardment of Lebanese civilian populations, especially the massacres in Qana,'' where 28 people were killed in a July 30 Israeli airstrike, and other Lebanese towns.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6009593,00.html

But the stats speak for themselves:

Lebanon lost 1300 civilians (35 military, 85-500? Hezbollah), 3600 wounded (80 military) and 1,000,000 displaced.

Israel lost 53 civilians (~120 military), 1350 wounded (400 military) and 500,000 displaced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Overall

Still think you know? Take a look for yourself.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES of ISRAELI/LEBANON WAR

Qana
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12011945@N00/sets/72157594217117891/

PhotoLebanon
http://www.lebanonlinks.com/photos.asp?album=photo_lebanon_israel_2006_war

Lebanese Blogger Forum
http://lebanonheartblogs.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-strong-pictures.html

So You get your stats from the same idiot box! Why are yours any better than mine? THE WAR WAS FOUGHT IN LEBANON THATS WHY MORE CIVILIANS DIED IN LEBANON THAN ISRAEL. If Hezbullah had the means and they had invaded Israel don't you think the stats would have been reversed!
Now before you blow a gasket I don't for a second believe Lebanese civilians deserved what happened to them but I lay the blame at the feet of Hezbullah. These are fanatics pledged to the elimination of a country and it's people. Sound familiar, see WWII, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, and on and on.
Regardless of your stats and Mr. Ken Roths biased opinions:
Did Israel make mistakes, yes, did they intentionally target civilians, No. Did Hezbullah try to only target military forces, No, did Hezbullah blanket areas with rockets trying to kill as many Israelis as possible, Yes.

 

[earth_as_one]

I got my stats from the UN, Human Rights Watch research and eyewitnesses in Lebanon, investigative journalists like New Yorker's Seymour Hersh...

See my posts above.

Published on Monday, December 1, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
Bush and Iraq: Mass Media, Mass Ignorance
by Jeff Cohen

The president's secret Thanksgiving trip to Iraq prompted predictable gushing from major media. As we head toward a presidential election, mainstream media and their pundits are telling us Bush will be difficult to beat. What mass media don't discuss much is their own role in public opinion and public ignorance, two measures that run hand in hand.

...While most of us who pay attention know who was and who wasn't behind 9/11, others get their news on the fly -- basically headlines and banners. But even Americans who say they're paying attention, at least to TV, are highly misinformed. A massive University of Maryland study found that most who get their news from commercial TV held at least one of three fundamental "misperceptions": that Iraq had been directly linked to 9/11, that WMDs had been found in Iraq or that world opinion supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Not unexpectedly, Fox News viewers were the most misled. But strong majorities of CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN viewers were also confused on at least one of these points. Among those informed on all three questions, only 23 percent supported Bush's war.

Ultimately, the Iraq war was a "Rush Limbaugh/Fox News War" -- based on the premise that in our current media environment if you tell a lie forcefully and frequently enough, the lie will triumph. Limbaugh rose to be the top commentator in our country while conducting a reign of error virtually unnoticed by mainstream media...

Manufacturing Consent
A Propaganda Model
excerpted from the book
Manufacturing Consent
by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
Pantheon Books, 1988

The mass media serve as a system for communicating messages and symbols to the general populace. It is their function to amuse, entertain, and inform, and to inculcate individuals with the values, beliefs, and codes of behavior that will integrate them into the institutional structures of the larger society. In a world of concentrated wealth and major conflicts of class interest, to fulfill this role requires systematic propaganda.
In countries where the levers of power are in the hands of a state bureaucracy, the monopolistic control over the media, often supplemented by official censorship, makes it clear that the media serve the ends of a dominant elite. It is much more difficult to see a propaganda system at work where the media are private and formal censorship is absent. This is especially true where the media actively compete, periodically attack and expose corporate and governmental malfeasance, and aggressively portray themselves as spokesmen for free speech and the general community interest. What is not evident (and remains undiscussed in the media) is the limited nature of such critiques, as well as the huge inequality in command of resources, and its effect both on access to a private media system and on its behavior and performance...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Manufac_Consent_Prop_Model.html

 

[iARTthere4iam]

I wonder what you all think Israel's response to Hizbollah should have been.

I think they should have said to the Lebanese government, " please get Hizbollah to give us back our soldiers, and stop firing rockets at us or else..."
This statement would be followed by a public statement that all civillians should get the hell out of the way.
Unrelenting military attack until there is nothing left of Hizbollah or their rats nests.