Why do People Dislike or Hate other peoples

dekhqonbacha

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I believe we are inharetated some from the history. Before the nations were divided by the borders. What one society thought about the other didn't really matter because no one would know what the others were thinking.

The racial, religion, etc discirmination existed in areas occupied by europeens, mostly against native people.

Later, people started moving from a country to another bringing their lower social level with them. Or at least the were subject to discrimination.

Last century, people dealt mostly with discrimination. But it still remains in most of us. We are inhareted it.

If you see two people from different origin arguing, what you might notice is that they think that each of the is the subject to discrimination.

The thought revives the hate.

I think.
 

Graeme

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This is really weird, How do you not understand why you might dislike someone or even hate them.

Tell me, if someone was to hold you hostage and torture you, and then kill everyone you loved and cared about right in front of you. Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't strongly dislike them... dare I say HATE them.

Now sure that is an extreme case, but I think you are quite litterally full of crap if you say you don't dislike anyone.

For instance are you trying to tell me you don't "dislike" child molesters. Personally if I could get my hands on someone who raped anyone I know, I would chop there balls off without thinking twice, and no, not for justice, but for the sheer dislike/hate I would feel for them.
 

Jersay

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I'm full of crap. :lol:

That's the thing about your two issues. That you bring up. I would be more angry if something happened, yes if a family member including a child but would I be calling for someone's head over it. No. Why? Because I believe that people should get over that BS about an eye for an eye and such like that. Should the government ensure the protection of the public from people who molest people, absolutely. But if you hate someone, you I figure just loose abit of yourself.
 

dekhqonbacha

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Re: RE: Why do People Dislike or Hate other peoples

Graeme said:
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Tell me, if someone was to hold you hostage and torture you, and then kill everyone you loved and cared about right in front of you.

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If you are not a member of criminal group, or drug sellers group, you are not subject to all of unnumbered above actions.

If you don't kill the innocent people you are not the subjec to be the target.

If you don't harm someone, no one will think to harm you implicetly.
 

Graeme

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Jersay said:
Semperfi_dani said:
But im serious Jers.... I am not saying this on the sly. I am seriously wondering why there are acceptable hate and unacceptable hate.

Hate is a strong dislike towards another person or possibly thing.

The reason there is hate is because as creatures that can experience and learn we have the capacity to develop dislikes, without this capacity we would not survive because we would never have any reason to change anything we do.

Completely scientifically speaking the emotion of dislike protects us by either making us want to stay away from, be more cautious of, defend ourselves from, or preemptively attack what ever it is we dislike. There-by decreasing the chances of ourselves coming to harm. Hate is only a very strong form of dislike.

If you wonder why we may come to hate particular people, again it is a defensive mechanism. Why might someone be racist? because they see a particular group within a race as being savage, untrustworthy, or immoral to there personal standards. And as we do with everything we learn they make what ever associations seem most prominent. Race is a very easy one to make because it is so obvious, and because race has a very strong correlation with culture. Many cultures clash, and it is not wrong to dislike someone else’s culture, and when it begins to interfere with yours due to the actions of those in the culture, it is a logical step to dislike the perpetrators, who are affecting your way of life in a way you deem negative.
 

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dekhqonbacha said:
Swifty said:
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And suppose you took the civilized route and called the police,and he was found guilty but served only 3 months for it due to a technicality or a police error, what would you do ?

forgive him? no?

Ok,you were invited to that 3 ton Ammonium Nitrate party last week and we were excluded.I hate it when people don't share the Buzz. :)
 

Graeme

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dekhqonbacha said:
Graeme said:
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Tell me, if someone was to hold you hostage and torture you, and then kill everyone you loved and cared about right in front of you.

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If you are not a member of criminal group, or drug sellers group, you are not subject to all of unnumbered above actions.

If you don't kill the innocent people you are not the subjec to be the target.

If you don't harm someone, no one will think to harm you implicetly.


Awww isn't that idealistic. So what your saying is that all people are naturally good! I would love to hear your explination for how reciprocal harm begins.

Don't be foolish, people have ambition, sometimes those ambitions are to have what others have and sometimes the only or the easiest way to get that something is to cause harm in some fashion to someone else.
 

Jersay

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Hate is a strong dislike towards another person or possibly thing.

The reason there is hate is because as creatures that can experience and learn we have the capacity to develop dislikes, without this capacity we would not survive because we would never have any reason to change anything we do.

Completely scientifically speaking the emotion of dislike protects us by either making us want to stay away from, be more cautious of, defend ourselves from, or preemptively attack what ever it is we dislike. There-by decreasing the chances of ourselves coming to harm. Hate is only a very strong form of dislike.

If you wonder why we may come to hate particular people, again it is a defensive mechanism. Why might someone be racist? because they see a particular group within a race as being savage, untrustworthy, or immoral to there personal standards. And as we do with everything we learn they make what ever associations seem most prominent. Race is a very easy one to make because it is so obvious, and because race has a very strong correlation with culture. Many cultures clash, and it is not wrong to dislike someone else’s culture, and when it begins to interfere with yours due to the actions of those in the culture, it is a logical step to dislike the perpetrators, who are affecting your way of life in a way you deem negative.

Funny thing you mention that we would not survive if hate or dislike of other peoples isn't maintained which is totally sad. And that is what people who don't seem to hate anyone, or dislike other peoples culture, and there are people out there, or their wouldn't be movements around the world to change things like that.
 

Graeme

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Jersay said:
I'm full of crap. :lol:

That's the thing about your two issues. That you bring up. I would be more angry if something happened, yes if a family member including a child but would I be calling for someone's head over it. No. Why? Because I believe that people should get over that BS about an eye for an eye and such like that. Should the government ensure the protection of the public from people who molest people, absolutely. But if you hate someone, you I figure just loose abit of yourself.

I am not saying we shouldn't TRY and forgive, what I am saying is that it certainly isn't the default. and in some cases it may be impossible.
 

Graeme

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Jersay said:
Funny thing you mention that we would not survive if hate or dislike of other peoples isn't maintained which is totally sad. And that is what people who don't seem to hate anyone, or dislike other peoples culture, and there are people out there, or their wouldn't be movements around the world to change things like that.

Well the reason is because there will always be someone who will perpotrate. if we don't dislike/hate them we won't do very much to stop it.
 

Jersay

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I'm not trying to forgive and forget people for their crimes. People can be angry I don't dispute that, and anger at times is good. But to have that change to hatred to another human being, of race or of a crime is sad because it is a big step to have a hatred against a group of people or a person.
 

dekhqonbacha

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Re: RE: Why do People Dislike or Hate other peoples

Graeme said:
dekhqonbacha said:
Graeme said:
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Tell me, if someone was to hold you hostage and torture you, and then kill everyone you loved and cared about right in front of you.

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If you are not a member of criminal group, or drug sellers group, you are not subject to all of unnumbered above actions.

If you don't kill the innocent people you are not the subjec to be the target.

If you don't harm someone, no one will think to harm you implicetly.

Awww isn't that idealistic. So what your saying is that all people are naturally good! I would love to hear your explination for how reciprocal harm begins.

Don't be foolish, people have ambition, sometimes those ambitions are to have what others have and sometimes the only or the easiest way to get that something is to cause harm in some fashion to someone else.

Yes, you are right. People have ambition. I agree with you. But does it necesserily mean harming phisically someone?

It depends where you are.
If you are working in the office, some people will harm you by not giving you chance to succed and etc this kind. Moslty politely to your face but hate in heart.

If you are drug seller, one way to make you harm, is to harm your family (I wish it never happen to anyone). To get rid of you, is just to get rid of you.
 

Jersay

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Well the reason is because there will always be someone who will perpotrate. if we don't dislike/hate them we won't do very much to stop it.

No if you get angry at the senseless crime or pressure the government into action then it chances. Hating one person for a crime doesn't do anything. Getting mad and then rationally thinking about something without bringing in a dislike or hatred for another race of people or in a criminal sense a person and try to go for the bigger picture something can be done.
 

Graeme

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CBC Ricks Murphy said this (paraphrased):

"As Canada is a place to freely accept many cultures and ideologies, that may make it more susceptable to harm from those who have extermist ideologies."

Which is a great example of what I am saying.
 

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dekhqonbacha said:
The party was wonderful. Dancing, singing, drinking. Gosh, I had great time. ...
Besides, which party you are talking about?
How did you that I was at that party?


All kidding aside:


If your neighbor raped your mother and she told you it was him,would you call the police or beat the living crap out of him ?

And suppose you took the civilized route and called the police,and he was found guilty but served only 3 months for it due to a technicality or a police error, what would you do ?

My point is were nothing more than predators.
 

Jersay

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Graeme said:
CBC Ricks Murphy said this (paraphrased):

"As Canada is a place to freely accept many cultures and ideologies, that may make it more susceptable to harm from those who have extermist ideologies."

Which is a great example of what I am saying.

But that gets back to the point of it. Why hate everyone from that said religion or culture for the actions of a few??
 

Graeme

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Jersay said:
Well the reason is because there will always be someone who will perpotrate. if we don't dislike/hate them we won't do very much to stop it.

No if you get angry at the senseless crime or pressure the government into action then it chances. Hating one person for a crime doesn't do anything. Getting mad and then rationally thinking about something without bringing in a dislike or hatred for another race of people or in a criminal sense a person and try to go for the bigger picture something can be done.

If you are pressuring the government to take action than it just becomes an extension of yourself. Having henchmen doesn't take the onus of responsibility off you. You are still the person who dislikes the other due to their actions and wants justice to come or at least wants the crime to stop.

I don't think you understand, people don't become racist due to one experience. Living at Jane and finch (Toronto) and seeing that every single shooting there is done by a black man, makes you start to dislike black men in the Jane and finch area. You will avoid them and be extra cautious of them. If you weren't I would call you stupid.

If the only Black men someone ever saw were from the Jane and Finch area, and all they ever saw of them was what seems like their insatiable desire to shoot people; You MUST be able to understand how that person could become racist to all Black men/people.
 

Dexter Sinister

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I don't think people actually do dislike or hate people they don't know. They may express it in those terms, but it's really a fear of something different or unfamiliar. It's tribalism, essentially, a recognition that somebody isn't a member of the group you belong to, and is therefore a potential threat. That probably made sense on the plains of Africa a million years ago when we evolved into what we are now pleased to call modern humans. It doesn't anymore, but evolution's built it into us. I think that's really what's at the heart of racism, and religious bigotry, and many other ills that beset the world. But the greatest thing about the modern human mind is that it enables us to step outside of things like that, go beyond them. We can choose to accept each other as we are, warts and all, and deny the baggage of our evolutionary biology.

But too few of us do that.