Why are there so many denominations in aChristian religion?
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RE: Why are there so many denominations in aChristian religi
Ironically the seven deadly sins are the cause of the differing beliefs, as well as geographical location.
Saved….Just be nice! How can any divine being, that used to smite every evil doer, have a problem with just being nice?
If you are a true Atheist, party like its 1999…
Thank you,
Ironically the seven deadly sins are the cause of the differing beliefs, as well as geographical location.
Saved….Just be nice! How can any divine being, that used to smite every evil doer, have a problem with just being nice?
If you are a true Atheist, party like its 1999…
Thank you,
RE: Why are there so many denominations in aChristian religi
The Sects are all formed when there is a major shift.
Ie.) The Coptics (Oriental Orthodox) split from (or are the only remaining bastion of, depending on whom you ask) the unified "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church" in 451 due to them rejecting the Leo's Tome. The work of an infallible pope..non-biblical to them, "clarifying" to the rest.
in 1054 the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches split off when the Roman church insterted the filioque clause into christian theocracy, saying he held power over the eastern patriarchs.
The Protestants seperated from the Catholic church during the protestant reformation over corrupt church practices, as well as what they deem the "Apocryphals" texts written later (or altered existing texts) in the "second gospel" of jesus, when the authors were inspired by their long dead messiah.
The Anglican Catholics split from the roman catholics at about the same time over the issue of divorce for Henry VIII.
Due to the nature of Protestantism, different interpretations of the bible have different sects, but they are very similar. But all use the same bible, merely differing interpretations of it.
Independant catholic churches began appearing in the 19th century, refuting papal infallibility and becoming independant.
The Restorationist church came about in 1820, when their prophet Joseph Smith Jr claims to have been visited by angels and told to restore the christian church to its original values, and was shown golden plates with the third testament of jesus christ (give or take), upon his death by lynch mob in 1844 that church seperated into a few different Restorationist churches, the largest being lead by Bringham Young.
And thats about how it came to be, off the top of my head.
The Sects are all formed when there is a major shift.
Ie.) The Coptics (Oriental Orthodox) split from (or are the only remaining bastion of, depending on whom you ask) the unified "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church" in 451 due to them rejecting the Leo's Tome. The work of an infallible pope..non-biblical to them, "clarifying" to the rest.
in 1054 the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches split off when the Roman church insterted the filioque clause into christian theocracy, saying he held power over the eastern patriarchs.
The Protestants seperated from the Catholic church during the protestant reformation over corrupt church practices, as well as what they deem the "Apocryphals" texts written later (or altered existing texts) in the "second gospel" of jesus, when the authors were inspired by their long dead messiah.
The Anglican Catholics split from the roman catholics at about the same time over the issue of divorce for Henry VIII.
Due to the nature of Protestantism, different interpretations of the bible have different sects, but they are very similar. But all use the same bible, merely differing interpretations of it.
Independant catholic churches began appearing in the 19th century, refuting papal infallibility and becoming independant.
The Restorationist church came about in 1820, when their prophet Joseph Smith Jr claims to have been visited by angels and told to restore the christian church to its original values, and was shown golden plates with the third testament of jesus christ (give or take), upon his death by lynch mob in 1844 that church seperated into a few different Restorationist churches, the largest being lead by Bringham Young.
And thats about how it came to be, off the top of my head.
RE: Why are there so many denominations in aChristian religi
Thanks for all the answers ,I am glad to hear all your opinions,
Now I'm off to make my own denomination.
Thanks for all the answers ,I am glad to hear all your opinions,
Now I'm off to make my own denomination.
Divergence in Bible interpretation
As I read the Holy Bible, I found that the cause for so many denominations in the Christian religion is divergence in Bible interpretation. People are reading the same HOLY BIBLE, but they cannot agree on the intended message.
I found this also during the time of Christ. When our Lord Jesus said:
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
I noticed there were two classes of listeners:
FIRST CLASS -- The Jews who thought they could understand what our Lord said expressed in their own Hebrew language. Thus:
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Their understanding was of course inimical to our Lord. Imagine these people saying:
Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
SECOND CLASS – Jesus’ Disciples
Knowing that Jesus was speaking in parables as prophesied (Psa. 78:2) and true to what is written (Mark 4:34), they simply kept silent and waited for our Lord to “explain” it by “demonstration.”
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Don’t we think this is precisely the reason why Christianity today is divided into sects/denominations because like the Jews, people cannot wait for our Lord to explain His words?
Perhaps the next question is, how could our Lord explain His words now that we are living in the 21st century?
As I read the Holy Bible, I found that the cause for so many denominations in the Christian religion is divergence in Bible interpretation. People are reading the same HOLY BIBLE, but they cannot agree on the intended message.
I found this also during the time of Christ. When our Lord Jesus said:
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
I noticed there were two classes of listeners:
FIRST CLASS -- The Jews who thought they could understand what our Lord said expressed in their own Hebrew language. Thus:
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Their understanding was of course inimical to our Lord. Imagine these people saying:
Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
SECOND CLASS – Jesus’ Disciples
Knowing that Jesus was speaking in parables as prophesied (Psa. 78:2) and true to what is written (Mark 4:34), they simply kept silent and waited for our Lord to “explain” it by “demonstration.”
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Don’t we think this is precisely the reason why Christianity today is divided into sects/denominations because like the Jews, people cannot wait for our Lord to explain His words?
Perhaps the next question is, how could our Lord explain His words now that we are living in the 21st century?
It is because we Inturpete things differantly, and have differant Tradtions. Its nothing crazy, Muslims have differant septs, and so do Jews.
Atheist also have differant heroys on how we came to be, and they dont all nessasarly think the same way.
If your tyring to make it look like we dont have our **** together we do, because we all get the Main messages of the Bible. It just doesnt work though becuase saying we have differant Ideas, isnt somehthing that makes us look like we dont know whats up, or that we dont really know what we are talking about because we do. Atheist also have differant Theroys like I said....so it goes both ways...I dont really see what the big deal is.
Atheist also have differant heroys on how we came to be, and they dont all nessasarly think the same way.
If your tyring to make it look like we dont have our **** together we do, because we all get the Main messages of the Bible. It just doesnt work though becuase saying we have differant Ideas, isnt somehthing that makes us look like we dont know whats up, or that we dont really know what we are talking about because we do. Atheist also have differant Theroys like I said....so it goes both ways...I dont really see what the big deal is.
The TWO CLASSES people!
Yes, in the beginning I was also wondering why Christianity is so divided into denominations. I was yearning for the perfect Christianity in the first century where our Lord Jesus led His Disciples personally.
I was thinking, how lucky indeed those people were in the upper room receiving the Holy Ghost at Pentecost. However, in reading the Holy Bible it is as if God opened my understanding to realize that our Lord is the WORD. Jesus was with the people, so is the WORD is with us today.
However there were two classes of people then as revealed in the following when He told them:
Joh 2:19 …Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
FIRST CLASS:
People who tried to comprehend what He was saying:
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
This became a disgrace to our Lord when, with their own understanding of the WORD, they said:
Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
SECOND CLASS:
These composed Jesus’ Disciples who DID NOT try to comprehend what He was saying but waited for Him to expound on it. It turned out to be a “demonstration”.
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Today, I can see the same TWO CLASSES of people. To the FIRST belong the religious leaders having DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of the WORD that caused division of Christianity into denominations.
To the SECOND, these people must represent the pure Christianity that we have to search.
What can you say to this?
Yes, in the beginning I was also wondering why Christianity is so divided into denominations. I was yearning for the perfect Christianity in the first century where our Lord Jesus led His Disciples personally.
I was thinking, how lucky indeed those people were in the upper room receiving the Holy Ghost at Pentecost. However, in reading the Holy Bible it is as if God opened my understanding to realize that our Lord is the WORD. Jesus was with the people, so is the WORD is with us today.
However there were two classes of people then as revealed in the following when He told them:
Joh 2:19 …Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
FIRST CLASS:
People who tried to comprehend what He was saying:
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
This became a disgrace to our Lord when, with their own understanding of the WORD, they said:
Mat 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
SECOND CLASS:
These composed Jesus’ Disciples who DID NOT try to comprehend what He was saying but waited for Him to expound on it. It turned out to be a “demonstration”.
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Today, I can see the same TWO CLASSES of people. To the FIRST belong the religious leaders having DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of the WORD that caused division of Christianity into denominations.
To the SECOND, these people must represent the pure Christianity that we have to search.
What can you say to this?
vera_stone 38
To the SECOND, these people must represent the pure Christianity that we have to search.
What can you say to this?
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What I can say ,vera_stone38 is that you are a perfect reason for all the brseak ups within the Church..People like you don't care one way or another ,they just want to be right ,have the final word.If you truly loved Christ you would not "search" for Him for He is here ,..."knocking on the door.Jesus Is the Truth,You cant 'search' for truth ,and if you do ,you are denying it and all that you are searching for is your own projections..So ,"what can I say to this"?.......if you were a man ,you'd make a fine Bishop vera_stone38
To the SECOND, these people must represent the pure Christianity that we have to search.
What can you say to this?
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What I can say ,vera_stone38 is that you are a perfect reason for all the brseak ups within the Church..People like you don't care one way or another ,they just want to be right ,have the final word.If you truly loved Christ you would not "search" for Him for He is here ,..."knocking on the door.Jesus Is the Truth,You cant 'search' for truth ,and if you do ,you are denying it and all that you are searching for is your own projections..So ,"what can I say to this"?.......if you were a man ,you'd make a fine Bishop vera_stone38
There are sects because there are people....
The continuing struggle played out in the Bible continues as much today as when it was written.
We are to just listen and do what we have been told to do by God, but we can't sem to do that. We make up our own rules, twist existing ones and justify all the time. Jesus said when 2 or more people are together in name of God you are basically with him..
But we want things our way... Martin Luther couldn't take what the Catholic church had become..a few holier than thou Popes and bishops who saw no need for the public be see or read the Bible and made up lots of rules. So he started a freer Church and translated the Bible to German so people could read. Hence the Luthern Church, The Anglican church started basically the same way. You will here that it was for King Henry to have a divorce, however that is very simplistic. The same "who are they to tell me" was going on in England as well. These 2 churches were very similar to the original Roman church. Then freer churches broke off from that since they also considered the other's to restrictive, It still continues to this day. Now it is basically just different traditions between sects but not much difference in belief.
as shown in above messages, this is common to ALL organized religous groups...Jews, Muslim Hindu etc.
The continuing struggle played out in the Bible continues as much today as when it was written.
We are to just listen and do what we have been told to do by God, but we can't sem to do that. We make up our own rules, twist existing ones and justify all the time. Jesus said when 2 or more people are together in name of God you are basically with him..
But we want things our way... Martin Luther couldn't take what the Catholic church had become..a few holier than thou Popes and bishops who saw no need for the public be see or read the Bible and made up lots of rules. So he started a freer Church and translated the Bible to German so people could read. Hence the Luthern Church, The Anglican church started basically the same way. You will here that it was for King Henry to have a divorce, however that is very simplistic. The same "who are they to tell me" was going on in England as well. These 2 churches were very similar to the original Roman church. Then freer churches broke off from that since they also considered the other's to restrictive, It still continues to this day. Now it is basically just different traditions between sects but not much difference in belief.
as shown in above messages, this is common to ALL organized religous groups...Jews, Muslim Hindu etc.
I'm surprised this thread is still open.
There are many churches and denominations because these represent more opportunities for personal enrichment for the church operators. For example, much of Wall Street in NYC is owned by Trinity Church in downtown. Because the land those businesses are on are church property (technically), they are exempt from certain taxes. This means higher profits for the wealthy elites who operate those churches.
This is the same thing that happens in every city in the USA.
Denominational churches means profits. That's why there are so many of them. As some might say on this forum, they are a bad "elk".
There are many churches and denominations because these represent more opportunities for personal enrichment for the church operators. For example, much of Wall Street in NYC is owned by Trinity Church in downtown. Because the land those businesses are on are church property (technically), they are exempt from certain taxes. This means higher profits for the wealthy elites who operate those churches.
This is the same thing that happens in every city in the USA.
Denominational churches means profits. That's why there are so many of them. As some might say on this forum, they are a bad "elk".
Participants on this thread,
You may not agree with me, but on reading some of the articles at the website: www.purechristianity.org, my eyes were "opened" so as to have a wider view and a broader horizon of what SALVATION really means. I can now clearly distinguish the literal-physical (morality) from spiritual that God revealed to Paul in:
2 Cor 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
You may not agree with me, but on reading some of the articles at the website: www.purechristianity.org, my eyes were "opened" so as to have a wider view and a broader horizon of what SALVATION really means. I can now clearly distinguish the literal-physical (morality) from spiritual that God revealed to Paul in:
2 Cor 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Vera_stone38
2 Cor 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Hi Vera ,Is the above the reason for all the different denominations?
2 Cor 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Hi Vera ,Is the above the reason for all the different denominations?
Religions are the mirrors of human race.
This cannot be to complicated to explain why there are so many religions out there:
First we start we many thousands years of individual beliefs, histories, crusades, lies and truth crushed into the wheel of time.
Than, you add a couple of generations of fanatics, killing for the sake and IN THE PURE NAME OF GOD HIMSELF.
Than you finish by mixing it up with A truth about an invisible sole force called the MASTER. God. We will never know how HE solely created the "BIG BAG" a HYPER-HOT gaseous matter and a core that created the universe.
We may think that we are sometime alone in this world. But be sure that all this haven't been created only for us. We may be breaking all universal (galactic) law by killing our globe the way we do...
Shame on us before spreading nonsense. The umanity spend way too much time praying and hoping... Let's spend that time helping a neighbors fix his home. Or just cleaning the cities for 30 minutes a day in some country. We keep saying to others what to do and who to worship.
Actions are way more urgents now than they ever been...
I have quit religious beliefs to live as a free man, THIS will be recognized as valuable when time will come if it ever comes...
Stay safe and live for yourself. There is BILLIONS of stars (suns) in our galaxy, and than BILLIONS of galaxies to discover.
John Muff
This cannot be to complicated to explain why there are so many religions out there:
First we start we many thousands years of individual beliefs, histories, crusades, lies and truth crushed into the wheel of time.
Than, you add a couple of generations of fanatics, killing for the sake and IN THE PURE NAME OF GOD HIMSELF.
Than you finish by mixing it up with A truth about an invisible sole force called the MASTER. God. We will never know how HE solely created the "BIG BAG" a HYPER-HOT gaseous matter and a core that created the universe.
We may think that we are sometime alone in this world. But be sure that all this haven't been created only for us. We may be breaking all universal (galactic) law by killing our globe the way we do...
Shame on us before spreading nonsense. The umanity spend way too much time praying and hoping... Let's spend that time helping a neighbors fix his home. Or just cleaning the cities for 30 minutes a day in some country. We keep saying to others what to do and who to worship.
Actions are way more urgents now than they ever been...
I have quit religious beliefs to live as a free man, THIS will be recognized as valuable when time will come if it ever comes...
Stay safe and live for yourself. There is BILLIONS of stars (suns) in our galaxy, and than BILLIONS of galaxies to discover.
John Muff
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it's just like manufacturing frigs, or stoves, or any other product.
Ours is better, no ours is better, all hoping theirs will be the one.
It's all about money and attention to what each one is spouting, and hoping
that their's will sound like the best, hence more profits.
I went to a catholic school till grade 4, did all the "proper" things according to what
the church dictated, till I was about 12 yrs. old, then I developed intelligence.
it's just like manufacturing frigs, or stoves, or any other product.
Ours is better, no ours is better, all hoping theirs will be the one.
It's all about money and attention to what each one is spouting, and hoping
that their's will sound like the best, hence more profits.
I went to a catholic school till grade 4, did all the "proper" things according to what
the church dictated, till I was about 12 yrs. old, then I developed intelligence.
I suppose this is the primary reason. This is demonstrated when our Lord Jesus Christ opened the "eyes" of the man born blind in John 9. Who among Christian sects do not "see"/interpret this LITERALLY? This is the "thing seen" that our Lord does not want us to focus on. If only we read this very carefully it is clearly demonstrated the importance of the "things not seen."
Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Joh 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
Joh 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
Joh 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Who do not interpret this literally? But our Lord nullified this understanding in the following:
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
The Pharisees who could only understand the literal meaning of the Scriptures understood what our Lord said. That the "opening of the eyes" is not literal but SPIRITUAL!
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.