Who thinks closing drive thru windows can help the environment?

Air Advocate

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its just something to think about

That’s all i am saying, that privilege is a good thing but do we have to abuse it?

This affects more then just the environment. For example if you’re forced to get out of your car what restaurant will you eat in? One that services clean healthy food or just the standard fast food.

Everyone could be healthier because of it.

I would hope if you left your car idling you have great relationship with your insurance company since you might be claiming a stolen vehicle some time soon.
 

fuzzylogix

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I don't know how much of an affect it would have on the environment.. but I do know it would make my job a lot less stressful. I hate running the drivethru at Tim Hortons.. it's what I do every weekend, and it's one of the worst jobs I've had.

There's so much exhaust coming through the window, by the end of the day I'm so dizzy and ill I just want to go home and sleep.

Maybe you should start a campaign to get worker's compensation for this. Breathing in exhaust is probably at least as dangerous as smoking. Now, workers are allowed to avoid smoking sites, so you should be allowed to refuse to work in an exhaust site.
 

The-Shadow-TS

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If the average Fast food restaurant does close to 66% of it business at a drive thru restaurant is it fair to the population that we breathe all this extra vehicle exhaust?
Has any one ever calculated just hom many cubic feet of exhaust is generated at these window every day? Does the restaurant have increased filteration on there ventilation systems? Did you go around to there neighbour and give money to compensate for the loses caused by illness related to these fine particuls?
That's a good point, I've never though that it would be better for the environment to park and go in a fast food restaurant then to wait in the drive thru.

Saving the environment a little bit at a time,
The-Shadow-TS
 

RomSpaceKnight

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I don't own a car. Two wheels for me. I got enough in my motorcycle and two bicycles to buy a nice car but cars are filthy polluting expensive things. You spend so much on cars and they depreciate from the moment you get in it. They even cost money just sitting there. Eventually a good motorcycle bottoms out in price and then starts to go up from there. A bicycle is such a small invetment and lasts for years and years. I have a cup holder on my bicycle for commuting. My motorcycle has tank bag with a Timmy's cardboard coffee tray in it.
 

Air Advocate

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Compensation is a great idea

Should drive thru location not be responsible to clean just as much of the environment they pollute? If would be easy enough to calculate most franchises advertise 66% of there business is at drive thru windows should they not be responsible for the pollution?
All we have to do is educated doctors to recognize symptom.
We need doctors to stay up with environmental issues as well. Every thing evolves in time just who is first to learn the lessons?



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Air Advocate

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(I think you're right. In fact, nobody should be allowed to drive anywhere. At no time should anybody be allowed to do anything that could possibly be construed as convenient. Nobody should be allowed to have a garage, either, because one of the main benefits of drive-thru service is not having to get in and out of your car in bad weather, so we have to eliminate that convenience.)
so you think starting your car in your garage that is attached to your house in a lot of cases is even a better thing to do. DID you ever think of the vehicle exhaust that gets into your home every time. Or your house has a special system to pressurize your house from air coming in through the garage? Or did they even think of that in these homes with garages and if so have any of you ever done preventative maintenance on them?
All i am saying is every little thing counts. Are you not willing to do your part? then thats your choice.
Like other had been saying just think of the impact on your health having to walk, or the reduced emissions in your local neighborhoods. or the impact on your small family businesses.
would your money not do better being spent locally so it can be reinvested locally or you rather your money leaving your community?
 

s243a

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It is amazing how easily people will give up their rights just because of some story about hot air. The global warming politics has been a great example of how to use “science” to exert power.
 

Air Advocate

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Its just sad to think how many people do nothing about it though.
thinking some one else is responsible like the inspectors or specialist they bring in to check things out in your work place. Let see if the inspector says the air is not clean then all the people that occupy that build would be able to go home until it is safe to work. Has this ever happened in your life time?
Just think all these people getting paid since the government advertise if your not safe in your work place you can refuse to work
http://www.worksmartontario.gov.on.ca/scripts/default.asp?contentID=2-4-3&mcategory=healthwell then who is going to pay for the taxes or street lights your city inspector works for?

Or how about all them over work maintenance manager that have not had a raise in years like many of you going with out a raise just increased duties for the same pay . Do you think any one want to work more time for the same amount of money just so you can breathe clean air. Think Again Who works for free
Would you not think cleaning the air is the only reason to increase a budget that has been cut cut cut?
 

Phil B

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Of course there is the other plus side, which is - if you shut drive-throughs people might actually have to get out of their cars and walk somewhere so helping with the growing obesity problem at the same time.
 

karrie

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Of course there is the other plus side, which is - if you shut drive-throughs people might actually have to get out of their cars and walk somewhere so helping with the growing obesity problem at the same time.

It's bull from an enviro standpoint though. Sure, people would walk into the restaurant, but they'd leave their vehicles running while they did it so that they didn't have to endure a moment more of a hot or cold vehicle than they absolutely had to.

Encouraging people to not use the drivethrough is one thing. But banning it won't solve anything.
 

razorgrade

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Closing these windows would not only help the environment, but it would help reduce obesity.

Drive throughs encourage laziness. If people can't either park and get out to get their food, then they are probably just going to eat in their car anyway.

They should just do everyone a favour and ban them completely. That would mean less unnecessary car trips, we would have less fat people and there would be more people playing sport.
 

karrie

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They should just do everyone a favour and ban them completely. That would mean less unnecessary car trips, we would have less fat people and there would be more people playing sport.


LOL. Like a 100 step (tops) walk into a restaurant is the cure for obesity, or is going to naturally lead to people participating in sports. LOL.
 

s243a

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What’s next are we going to ban elevators? I wish people didn’t think it was their job to tell other people what to do and not to do.