Who knew potheads were so violent?

Ten Packs

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missile said:
The last 6 Mounties slain on the job were murdered in our West[5 in Alberta and 1 in Manitoba]. this agrees with the premise that our West is almost American in nature and temperment.

missle, that's just plain foolish - want to talk about the Biker Wars in Ontario and Quebec, involving (among others) the Hells Angels - an AMERICAN gang?

Talk about "pretzel logic"..... :roll:
 

no1important

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missile said:
The last 6 Mounties slain on the job were murdered in our West[5 in Alberta and 1 in Manitoba]. this agrees with the premise that our West is almost American in nature and temperment.

Also Ontario and Quebec have their own Provincial Police and do not use the RCMP for every day duties like they are used out west. That is the reason why more RCMP are killed in the west compared to the east. :roll:
 

Twila

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News reports last night said

" Rooky cops- max 3 yrs experience."

"not discovered until another police officer showed up on unrelated grounds and discovered the bodies" Which begs the question...who's suppose to be keeping tabs on the young officers and how come they'd be sent to such a situation?

Something smells rank...............
 

Reverend Blair

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It was being treated as a routine stakeout, Twila...one step up from handing out speeding tickets. From what's been coming out about this guy all day today, it shouldn't have been, but it was.
 

Twila

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That's what I mean.

It was known this guy was short a load, it was a stakeout yet they didn't know what they were staking him out for?
 

peapod

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Something smells rank............... hehehehhehe why are you smoking something twila :p :lol:

I think the reason is twila someone has to do something before anyone sits up and takes notice, but it is the law. I don't know about any other province, but there are alot of mentally ill people on the streets today, lots!
 

Twila

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yeah. I guess I assumed that the police would check out the "type" of people they're about to bust.

I remember along time ago my ex (although not at the time) and his friend had gone to the store to get me some popcorn (I was pregnant. enough said) and were subsquently pulled over.

Asked to step out of the vehicle and lie face down. There were 4 officers with guns drawn. My ex was...rather notorious in Victoria. They took no chances with him. Why would they take chances with this guy in Alberta who is also "well known"?
 

Reverend Blair

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What gets me about this is that when they busted Jaggi Singh for wielding a megaphone, six cops took him down while another eight or ten cops in full riot gear stood near for moral support or in hopes of kicking him in the ribs or whatever. Jaggi is known to be non-violent.

The neighbourhood psychopath in small-town Alberta only rates four rookies dressed for a Sunday stroll?

How bizarre is that?
 

Twila

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Something smells rank............... hehehehhehe why are you smoking something twila

It was my attempt at being kind of punny. It might have been one of those "you had to be there moments". At least it would have been if I wasn't the only one "there".
 

Reverend Blair

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The only thing worse than being the only one there is being there with a group and being the only one who notices.
 

zenfisher

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missile said:
Once in a rare while,a Canadian police officer is killed on the job. We do have a few murders every year. The USA has 100's per day,so it's nothing to an American, It probably wouldn't even be written up in the papers because it's not "real" news. Here,the murder of 4 policemen is one big deal,but then, we are basically a nation of law abiding citizens.

It made the news here in Seattle. Lead story on television.
 

merryclaire

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pea,
heroin clinics are in a number of european countries and they are what our vancouver clinic was based on.
they work for the reasons you mentioned. if the addicts are getting regular hits that are regulated, they no longer have to resort to crime to support their habit. they have much fewer OD's, because the heroin is stabalized by pharmacists.
the bad guys, no longer have a market to sell their product in. or at least it is drastically diminished.
and yes, many addicts in these controlled situations are able to gain employment and make a functional life for themselves.
obviously the ideal would be to help all addicts be straight. but first the addicts need to want to be straight.
it is ironic, however that millions of dollars are being poured into our vancouver clinic to help ppl get a regulated fixes and yet, for those who want to quit, their is an extreme shortage of beds and help available which results in a long wait list. the result? by the time the beds are available, the addicts has changed their mind.
the clinics also provide counselling and have medical practioners available.
plus, theres also the advantage of clean and fresh needles with every hit. so less transfer of diseases.
mary jane should definately be legal. it's horrible the amount of money spent trying to defeat it.
how in the world did alcohol become legal and mary jane illegal????
i have never known anyone on mary jane who gets behind the wheel of their car and kills people, who commits adultery, who commits assault, who acts like a complete idiot and disrupts the peace.
it is a farce that mary jane is illegal.
and it is not the gateway to other drugs. if there is a gateway, it is alcohol. every body starts with alcohol.
prostitution should be legal as well. like nevada.
clean and safe.
get these items out of the control of the mafia and the like and into the control of the government. lets take the profits and make our country safer and better. less crime, less atrocities. more control.
 

Twila

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I think the heroin clinics are an excellent idea too.

I'd also like to see a completely revamped councelling program for them though.

Heroin addicts have a double edge sword when it comes to staying off. It's both physically and emotionally addicting. Not to mention the guilt these addicts have to deal with once they get clean......Imagine the guilt they must feel...and then not have heroin to cover it back up again...

Heroin destroys the brains ability to create dopamine. My ex attended rehab for heroin addiction. He couldn't sleep for days and every little knock or bang caused excruciating pain. Methadone is a joke. It's like fake smokes. Funnily enough he never smoked pot. Didn't like the stone. Didn't make as much money of it as he did selling blow or heroin.

One of the worst things were the councellors who want to build the addicts self esteem but only give the addict the tools for denying their roll in addiction.

Needless to say my ex is still a user. Still serving federal time for crimes committed to keep the pain away. Is practicing maintenance not obliteration. can't keep job. Can't work for any length of time. can't function. Teeth rotting. Esphogus (sp?) damaged (from throwing up) has lost touch with his daughter. Has a $20 thousand dollar debt to Family Maintenance. has enough guilt to work through to make any catholic blanche.

Course none of it is his fault. It's all because of his mother. The cops.the courts. but not his fault. Thanks to the councelling he's received. The provincial and federal prison system. and heroin.

I wait for the call to say he's dead. Either OD or debt collection. I hope it happens while my daughter is young and before he's decided he must have a relationship with her so she can maintain the memories of when he was a good dad and not have those memories usurped by memories of broken promises. constant imprisonment and heartache.

end of my rant. Anyone want to use my soap box?