What's With the Budget Cuts in Maximum Security Prisons?

Nascar_James

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Two more convicted killers escape from a maximum security prison.

This is an outrage. Budget cuts for the state of Iowa should be redirected elsewhere, not to maximum security prison staff.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175585,00.html

Fox News:

Search in Iowa for Two Escaped Killers
Tuesday, November 15, 2005

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IOWA CITY, Iowa — The search continued Tuesday for two convicted murderers who escaped from the Iowa State Penitentiary in Fort Madison by scaling an unguarded section of the historic prison's limestone walls, state officials said.

Law enforcement officials in neighboring Midwestern states have been notified to be on the look out for Martin Shane Moon, 34, and Robert Joseph Legendre, 27. The two men were last seen early Monday night, prison officials said.

Legendre and Moon were serving life sentences for murder. Fort Madison Police Chief Randy Van Wye said the men should be considered armed and dangerous.

State Sen.Gene Fraise, D-Fort Madison, said he was told by prison officials that the inmates scaled a prison wall near an unmanned guard tower.

"The only thing I know for sure is they went over the wall in the southwest corner with a rope and a grappling hook they fashioned out of metal from somewhere," Fraise said.

He said the inmates somehow got past what he called a hot-wire that is supposed to activate an alarm when touched, and got over razor wire at the top of the wall.

"No one knows whether they split up or are together," Fraise said.

Fred Scaletta, a corrections department spokesman, said the inmates used upholstery webbing, a material used in the furniture production at a Prison Industries facility inside the prison, to scale the wall. The guard tower in that section of the prison had been unmanned since 3 p.m., a policy that has been in place for some time.

Fraise blamed state budget cuts for the unmanned tower. He said he argued against the cuts.

"I don't want to say I told you so, but those towers were put there for security, and when you don't man those towers, that puts a hole in your security," Fraise said.

"Budget cuts are part of it," Scaletta told The Associated Press. "There is more to it than that."

Authorities believe the escaped prisoners may be in a stolen car, a 1995 gold Pontiac Bonneville with Iowa plates 776-NOW. The vehicle was reported stolen at about 6:30 p.m. from a residence in Fort Madison about 1 1/2 miles west of the prison, one block from U.S. Highway 61 and close to a bridge that crosses the Mississippi River to Illinois.

"We don't know that with 100 percent certainty that they stole the vehicle, But the fact this car was stolen very close to the time this escape made us want to include that in the information we're passing on," said Jim Saunders, spokesman for the Iowa Department of Public Safety.

Prison spokesman Ron Welder said the prison was locked down following the escape.

The inmates were working inside penitentiary walls for Prison Industries when the escape occurred, Welder said.

Legendre was convicted of kidnapping and murder in the state of Nevada and was transferred to Iowa in December 2004.

Moon was convicted in Clarke County and sent to prison in 2000 for the 1990 shooting of his roommate, Kevin Dickson.

Moon is white male, 6 feet tall, 185 pounds with green eyes and brown hair. Legendre is white, 5-feet 11-inches tall, 178 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes.

The Iowa State Penitentiary opened in 1839 and is the oldest prison in the United States west of the Mississippi River. Its maximum security section has a capacity of 550 inmates, and including minimum security and other sections the prison has an overall capacity of 1,166, Welder said.

The escape from the maximum security section is the first successful breakout since five inmates fled by hiding in a garbage truck in March 1979, Welder said. The inmates were later captured at the county landfill.
 

GL Schmitt

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Re: RE: What's With the Budge

Reverend Blair said:
It's all part of the privatization of prisons. Capitalism in action.
You're right again, Rev,

With the prison’s in the hands of private industry, poor blacks will finally break out of the ghetto to win themselves good-paying jobs.

Of course, it won’t be them who receives the good pay, but, let’s not quibble about inconsequentialities. :roll:
 

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And the crazy thing about it is their level of funding is based on the level of prisoners they have in the prison at that time.

So their seems to be an implied emphasis that the prison system does not rehabilitate but offers convicts the ability to hone their craft, leave, and reoffend. So that the cycle continue, and the prisons remain full and at full revenue generating capacity.

Is it me or does this really sound screwed up.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: What's With the Budge

Yes it is, Missile. He wants to follow the same path the US has and throw everybody in jail for even the smallest offenses. That means more prisons and the private version is the only version that fits inside Harper's philosphy.
 

Nascar_James

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Looks like the manhunt is getting serious.

There is one issue that baffles me. These guys had the know how to break out of a maximum security prison the hard way (scaling a wall and bypassing an alarm system). Why would they not realize that the only way to freedom is to leave the country. Driving to the Mexican border and then mearly walking across the border would be their best bet. There are usually no border guards on the Mexican side asking questions, pedestrians can simply walk across the one-way turnstile.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175705,00.html


FOXNews:

Iowa Continues Hunt for Escaped Convicts
Wednesday, November 16, 2005

FORT MADISON, Iowa — The search for two inmates who escaped from the Iowa State Penitentiary is continuing as police say one of the men could still be hiding in town.

"We're urging friends and neighbors to check on each other ... and report anything unusual," Police Chief Randy Van Wye said Tuesday.

Law enforcement in neighboring states have been notified to be on the look out for Martin Shane Moon, 34, and Robert Joseph Legendre, 27. The men are believed to have escaped about 5:30 p.m. Monday by scaling over an unguarded prison wall, prison officials said.

Legendre and Moon were serving life sentences. Van Wye said the men should be considered armed and dangerous.

Authorities believe the escaped prisoners stole a 1995 gold Pontiac Bonneville with Iowa plates 776-NOW that was parked outside a Fort Madison home.

Janel Nye, 29, the vehicle's owner, said she parked and left her car to drop off one of her two sons at her sister's house before reporting to work at a grocery store. Nye said she left the car running, knowing her visit would be quick.

"I know I shouldn't have done that but I always felt safe in my community," Nye told The Associated Press. "I wasn't inside more than two minutes. When I left, I had to look three times, then I started freaking out."

Police said Nye reported her car stolen at about 6:30 p.m. Nye's sister's house is about 1½ miles west of the prison.

State Sen. Gene Fraise, D-Fort Madison, said he was told by prison officials that the inmates scaled a prison wall near an unmanned guard tower.

"The only thing I know for sure is they went over the wall in the southwest corner with a rope and a grappling hook they fashioned out of metal from somewhere," Fraise said.

He said the inmates got past a taut-wire designed to activate an alarm when touched, and got over razor wire at the top of the wall.

Fred Scaletta, a corrections department spokesman, said the inmates used upholstery webbing, a material used in the furniture production at a Prison Industries facility inside the prison, to scale the wall.

The guard tower in that section had been unmanned since 3 p.m. — a policy that Fraise said was implemented due to state budget cuts.

"I don't want to say I told you so, but those towers were put there for security, and when you don't man those towers, that puts a hole in your security," Fraise said.

"Budget cuts are part of it," Scaletta told The Associated Press. "There is more to it than that."

Rep. Lance Horbach, R-Tama, criticized Fraise for suggesting budget cuts were a factor in the escape.

"The assertion that staffing levels were inadequate is false and misleading," he said. "In reality, we should explore why the taut wire system failed to alert guards and security staff that these two convicts were attempting to escape.

"We should first focus on finding the at-large criminals, and stop pointing fingers in a blatant attempt to capitalize on a very frightening situation," Horbach said.

Prison spokesman Ron Welder said the prison was locked down following the escape.

The inmates were working inside penitentiary walls for Prison Industries when the escape occurred, Welder said.

Legendre was convicted of attempted murder in the state of Nevada and was transferred to Iowa in December 2004.

Moon was convicted in Clarke County and sent to prison in 2000 for the 1990 shooting death of his roommate, Kevin Dickson.

Moon is a white male, 6 feet tall, 185 pounds with green eyes and brown hair. Legendre is white, 5 feet 11 inches tall, 178 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes.

The Iowa State Penitentiary, just a block from U.S. Highway 61 and close to a bridge that crosses the Mississippi River to Illinois, opened in 1839 and is the oldest prison in the United States west of the Mississippi River.

Its maximum security section has a capacity of 550 inmates, and including minimum security and other sections the prison has an overall capacity of 1,166, Welder said.

The escape from the maximum security unit is the first successful breakout since five inmates fled by hiding in a garbage truck in March 1979, Welder said. Those inmates were later captured at the county landfill
 

GL Schmitt

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What! Didn’t you notice, Jimbo?

They are rednecks.

Don’t you realize how dumb you have to be for a white man to wind up in a maximum security American prison?

The majority of those in prison are not violent sociopaths or genius level criminal masterminds. Most of the million behind bars in America are the financially or racially challenged, without access to competent legal representation or political connection.

"In 1995, African-Americans made up 13 percent of the [US] population and 15 percent of all drug users, yet they comprised 33 percent of people arrested, 53 percent of those convicted and 74 percent of those sentenced to prison for drug possession."

- Marc Mauer, 'Race to Incarcerate,' "In These Times," November 1999

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Or, to put it another way:

In 1987, the year before the DEA went into business, the US had 353 inmates per 100,000 citizens.

By 1995, the year mentioned in “Race to Incarcerate,” the US had 595 inmates per 100,000 citizens.

In 2003, the last year for which I could find a breakdown, the US had 718 inmates per 100,000 citizens.

In other words, The US prison population has more than doubled in the first 16 years that the DEA was operating.

So that now, with a prison population of 2,085,620 the United States is Number One in incarcerating its citizens, with China running a distant second with only 1,548,498 imprisoned citizens.
 

Jay

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"racially challenged"

Is that a new PC term I haven't seen yet, or did you come up with that?

"…with China running a distant second with only 1,548,498 imprisoned citizens."

I wonder if that number would be affected if China didn't use their death penalty so liberally....
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: What's With the Budge

It's easier to escaper from state-run prisons now too because they are underfunded due to the need to pay the private prisons.
 

GL Schmitt

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Re: RE: What's With the Budget Cuts in Maximum Security Pris

Jay said:
"racially challenged" Is that a new PC term. .I wonder if that number would be affected if China didn't use their death penalty so liberally....
No white man will ever have any true empirical knowledge about that, but one can extrapolate from the reported experiences of Ray Sprigle in 1948, and John Howard Griffin in 1959. Both successfully passed for black in the American south, and they certainly found it a challenge.



As for capital punishment, not even China (Red, perhaps, because it’s bloody) kills enough to have an effect on it prison population.


TOP TWELVE DEATH PENALTY NATIONS

No 1 China - Executions: 3,400+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 260)

No 2 Iran Executions: 159+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 230)

No 3 Vietnam - Executions: 64+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 77)

No 4 USA - Executions: 59 (Executions per 100 million residents: 20)

No 5 Saudi Arabia - Executions: 33+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 130)

No 6 Pakistan - Executions:15+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 9.4)

No 7 Kuwait - Executions: 9+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 400)

No 8 Bangladesh - Executions: 7+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 5)

No 9 Egypt - Executions: 6+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 7.9)

No 10 Singapore - Executions: 6+ (Executions per 100 million residents:140)

No 11 Yemen - Executions: 6+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 30)

No 12 Belarus - Executions: 5+ (Executions per 100 million residents: 48)


Judged by the rate per million, the US is only in 9th place, beating out only Pakistan, Egypt, and Bangladesh in the top twelve killers of its own citizens.


Wikipedia citation: Capital punishment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment

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To add texture to that American's 59 executions figure, during the five years George W. Bush was governor, 131 of the United States' levy came from Texas, alone.