Simpleton, if you're relying on blogs to fill the gaps in your information feed, you'd better hope you get lucky. And often. A good variety of lead newspapers is imperative to anyone remaining up-to-date today. Toronto hosts some of Canada's best. You get the whole ball of wax. Right wing, left wing and a good mix of centre. Excellent writers can be found at all the key Hogtown papers. But the truth will out. Readership is in decline because the competition for one's time has never been greater than it is today. It's too bad the 24 hour clock isn't obsolete because it simply doesn't offer enough room to do all we'd like to do. But network coverage, posting forums, blogs, books and mags will never replace the newspaper. If you're going to try to topple it, you'd better offer authority that what you have in mind does the job better: keeping viewers/readers reliably informed of pressing current events that affect their lives - right now.
What is wrong with our "justice" system?
- Thread starter LittleRunningGag
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Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?
By all means, knock yourself out.
By the way, have you noticed that a lot of what I say is consistent with what is reported in newspapers or on network news programs?
Yet, I remain the ignornorant rambling fool? Ya know, ya get what you pay for. Case closed!
Said1 said:
By all means, knock yourself out.
By the way, have you noticed that a lot of what I say is consistent with what is reported in newspapers or on network news programs?
Yet, I remain the ignornorant rambling fool? Ya know, ya get what you pay for. Case closed!
Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?
Who said anything about toppling newspapers? Have you been sniffing glue, tamarin?
Although, I will admit that I have criticized a radio station in the past. Just one radio station -- arguably, one "trifecta" of radio stations, and that I distributed my material via fax.
I wonder what the difference between a fax transmission and a free delivered newspaper is? I don't know, but I'm looking forward to someone's answer. :lol:
tamarin said:
Who said anything about toppling newspapers? Have you been sniffing glue, tamarin?
Although, I will admit that I have criticized a radio station in the past. Just one radio station -- arguably, one "trifecta" of radio stations, and that I distributed my material via fax.
I wonder what the difference between a fax transmission and a free delivered newspaper is? I don't know, but I'm looking forward to someone's answer. :lol:
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What do you do for a living, MikeyDB?
If I might offer a guess, I would say that you're either a student, or somebody involved with some religious group or cause. Perhaps an activist of some sort? Possibly between the age of 20 and thirty?
Either low income, or lower part of the middle-class spectrum?
Am I right?
MikeyDB said:
What do you do for a living, MikeyDB?
If I might offer a guess, I would say that you're either a student, or somebody involved with some religious group or cause. Perhaps an activist of some sort? Possibly between the age of 20 and thirty?
Either low income, or lower part of the middle-class spectrum?
Am I right?
RE: What is wrong with ou
You know, I'm not even upset that a discussion about the pit falls of our justice system got hijacked into the root causes of crime. I'm just stoked that a thread I started went to three pages.
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You know, I'm not even upset that a discussion about the pit falls of our justice system got hijacked into the root causes of crime. I'm just stoked that a thread I started went to three pages.
:lol:
Simpleton Hi There! :lol:
“If I might offer a guess, I would say that you're either a student, or somebody involved with some religious group or cause. Perhaps an activist of some sort? Possibly between the age of 20 and thirty?
Either low income, or lower part of the middle-class spectrum?”
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I don’t believe in “god” nor am I involved with any religious group or cause.
I haven’t seen thirty for nearly thirty years and my student days were over a very long time ago…..
I’m flattered though that you erred in the direction you did…a lot of folk consider me a dinosaur…
Your guess regarding my income level is close to accurate although I’d be really pleased to be living at the poverty level as opposed to half way to it.
I’ve been watching “government” for over fifty years and my cynicism stems from having worked both sides of the fence, i.e. earned government dollars for twenty years of my professional career then twenty years (roughly) self-employed.
Canadian politicians have actively supported monopolies in the communications industry (Bell Canada) and provincially they’ve abetted private control over cable television distribution, beer and liquor sales and collected billions of dollars through tobacco-sales regulation.
The legacy of waste and corruption in Canadian government while unable to rival that of our neighbors to the south in terms of sheer volume has its roots in the earliest days of Canadian government… Sir John M. was a crook and the politicians of every decade following have joyfully embraced his lead.
So long as we have lawyers writing law in Canada and manipulating government to the advantage of the wealthy elite, we’ll continue to see Bombardier and Maurice Strong, Power Corp and CSL sucking the life out of Canada as they have for years and years.
If you tallied the millions of dollars lost in bungled management and outright waste at a government level, combined with the millions more lost to corruption and plain theft, the current surplus enjoyed by our government would be gargantuan….
We’ve been told that governments are “forced” to “pay down the deficit” which translates into …. The average Canadian shouldering more taxes, income and property, hidden taxes in clever little disguises like “fees” and “licenses”, while corporations take a free ride.
I wonder if you’ve ever calculated how these “deficits” were created and by whom….?
The caliber of the average Canadian politician is revealed upon review of the historical record of ineptitude mismanagement and plain corruption. It’s there for anyone to examine, it only takes a little digging to find.
There isn’t a Canadian politician I’d leave alone in my house or trust any further than I could throw one of them. Stephen Harper’s “integrity in government” was gone literally hours after the election results were tallied. Paul Martin, Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney, a list of the names of every prime minister going back fifty years beside the record of waste and mismanagement the Canadian taxpayer has footed the bill for is the only proper record to be set in type for the history books but we’ll never see that happen.
When Canadian government is unjust (and it has been for all of my life) there is no justice to be had in Canadian society.
“If I might offer a guess, I would say that you're either a student, or somebody involved with some religious group or cause. Perhaps an activist of some sort? Possibly between the age of 20 and thirty?
Either low income, or lower part of the middle-class spectrum?”
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I don’t believe in “god” nor am I involved with any religious group or cause.
I haven’t seen thirty for nearly thirty years and my student days were over a very long time ago…..
I’m flattered though that you erred in the direction you did…a lot of folk consider me a dinosaur…
Your guess regarding my income level is close to accurate although I’d be really pleased to be living at the poverty level as opposed to half way to it.
I’ve been watching “government” for over fifty years and my cynicism stems from having worked both sides of the fence, i.e. earned government dollars for twenty years of my professional career then twenty years (roughly) self-employed.
Canadian politicians have actively supported monopolies in the communications industry (Bell Canada) and provincially they’ve abetted private control over cable television distribution, beer and liquor sales and collected billions of dollars through tobacco-sales regulation.
The legacy of waste and corruption in Canadian government while unable to rival that of our neighbors to the south in terms of sheer volume has its roots in the earliest days of Canadian government… Sir John M. was a crook and the politicians of every decade following have joyfully embraced his lead.
So long as we have lawyers writing law in Canada and manipulating government to the advantage of the wealthy elite, we’ll continue to see Bombardier and Maurice Strong, Power Corp and CSL sucking the life out of Canada as they have for years and years.
If you tallied the millions of dollars lost in bungled management and outright waste at a government level, combined with the millions more lost to corruption and plain theft, the current surplus enjoyed by our government would be gargantuan….
We’ve been told that governments are “forced” to “pay down the deficit” which translates into …. The average Canadian shouldering more taxes, income and property, hidden taxes in clever little disguises like “fees” and “licenses”, while corporations take a free ride.
I wonder if you’ve ever calculated how these “deficits” were created and by whom….?
The caliber of the average Canadian politician is revealed upon review of the historical record of ineptitude mismanagement and plain corruption. It’s there for anyone to examine, it only takes a little digging to find.
There isn’t a Canadian politician I’d leave alone in my house or trust any further than I could throw one of them. Stephen Harper’s “integrity in government” was gone literally hours after the election results were tallied. Paul Martin, Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney, a list of the names of every prime minister going back fifty years beside the record of waste and mismanagement the Canadian taxpayer has footed the bill for is the only proper record to be set in type for the history books but we’ll never see that happen.
When Canadian government is unjust (and it has been for all of my life) there is no justice to be had in Canadian society.
Is this indicative of a genuinely corrupt government, or just an ignorant society? Greed is pervasive, and we're all susceptible to the foibles of human error. These two qualities of society are what make opportunity possible, though few are so astute as to be capable of cashing in.
We all want to "cash in." If this is a fault of our society, then it could be forgiven as an arguably noble one. "Greed is good," said Gordon Gecko in the movie, Wall Street. And with that line of thought, I can offer very little by way of disagreement. Certainly, there is no coincidence in the fact that such a line should come from the entertainment industry, as greed and the desire to pursue health and wealth are the few motivators in a society striving for happiness in a world that is inherently pathetic.
Unless you believe in a superior being, have faith in the divine, or pursue the riches of a bountiful afterlife, there can be little discussion on the relative insignificance of life and our brief ocupancy of minute time periods. The point of life becomes, inexplicably, to live. And to live implies a necessity for enrichment of the singular self, irrespective of the society and cultures that would deem us unworthy. For what end do we strive, if not for our own personal satisfaction and that which makes us whole by our own conscious reckoning?
I do not know. Do you?
“Unless you believe in a superior being, have faith in the divine, or pursue the riches of a bountiful afterlife, there can be little discussion on the relative insignificance of life and our brief occupancy of minute time periods.”
I respect your right or choice or whatever you wish to call it when it comes to your thinking and/or beliefs regarding a “superior being”. In my opinion, all religions that promulgate the notion that human beings are inherently or intrinsically flawed and that a “superior being” “exists” do so for reasons that have little to do with the nature of the human animal.
Your choice to decide that what other people think or believe ought to determine or legitimizes “discussion” says a great deal about your own availability to anything that doesn’t “fit” your ‘world-view’.
Nice talking with you.
I respect your right or choice or whatever you wish to call it when it comes to your thinking and/or beliefs regarding a “superior being”. In my opinion, all religions that promulgate the notion that human beings are inherently or intrinsically flawed and that a “superior being” “exists” do so for reasons that have little to do with the nature of the human animal.
Your choice to decide that what other people think or believe ought to determine or legitimizes “discussion” says a great deal about your own availability to anything that doesn’t “fit” your ‘world-view’.
Nice talking with you.
Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?
Perhaps you misunderstood the context of my previous post. The implication was that all but the most devoutly religious portion of our population, will recognize that there is no point or purpose for life. I was not suggesting that there is a superior being, only that the acknowledgement of such an existence, appears to be the basis for the philosophical divide that typically permeates such discussions.
It's a matter of perspective. If you're a person that religiously believes in an afterlife, then the pursuit of material wealth or happiness on Earth, may prove secondary to the purpose of serving God. While those that deny the existence of a God, would worship material Gods, and see corruption as one of the ten commandments of happiness.
MikeyDB said:
Perhaps you misunderstood the context of my previous post. The implication was that all but the most devoutly religious portion of our population, will recognize that there is no point or purpose for life. I was not suggesting that there is a superior being, only that the acknowledgement of such an existence, appears to be the basis for the philosophical divide that typically permeates such discussions.
It's a matter of perspective. If you're a person that religiously believes in an afterlife, then the pursuit of material wealth or happiness on Earth, may prove secondary to the purpose of serving God. While those that deny the existence of a God, would worship material Gods, and see corruption as one of the ten commandments of happiness.
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Thats quite the assumption you have there. Care to defend it? If you think that all non-religious people "worship material gods" you need to have more conversations with atheists, agnostics, et al.
As for seeing "corruption as one of the ten commandments of happiness," if you think that people being religious somehow makes them morally superior, you are deluded. Faith, or lack thereof, does not make a person what they are.
Simpleton said:
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Thats quite the assumption you have there. Care to defend it? If you think that all non-religious people "worship material gods" you need to have more conversations with atheists, agnostics, et al.
As for seeing "corruption as one of the ten commandments of happiness," if you think that people being religious somehow makes them morally superior, you are deluded. Faith, or lack thereof, does not make a person what they are.
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Case closed. LOL. That reminds me of my Granny.
But seriously, I don't rely on newspapers and network news for that much info, so I wouldn't know how consistent you have actually been in this thread. Most of what I say comes from other sources, time spent within the "system" and living in one of the crappiest areas in the city for about 15yrs. Case cold. :lol:
You have to admit though, you do ramble a wee bit? :lol:
Simpleton said:
Case closed. LOL. That reminds me of my Granny.
But seriously, I don't rely on newspapers and network news for that much info, so I wouldn't know how consistent you have actually been in this thread. Most of what I say comes from other sources, time spent within the "system" and living in one of the crappiest areas in the city for about 15yrs. Case cold. :lol:
You have to admit though, you do ramble a wee bit? :lol:
Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?
Read my original post.
I did not say that "all non-religious people" worship material gods. What I said, was that non-religious people do not believe in an afterlife. And I didn't really even imply religion, I used terms that would have encompassed all groups with a belief in the continuance of the spirit upon death. Whether that be reincarnation, purgatory, heaven, or hell, is entirely up to your belief system and/or imagination.
What I suggested, was that people with an absolute view toward the finality of life, or life on Earth, tend to make "living" their primary focus. Essentially, the purpose of life is to live, and that there is no other role or point to existence.
I closed out the post with a comment on attaining peace of mind, and the satisfaction that one receives from knowing that they are secure in and of themselves. This could be represented in the belief that one has been "saved," as many Christians feel, or the belief that one is secure enough in themselves and their material possessions, that they will go to their graves with grace, dignity, and in happiness.
LittleRunningGag said:
Read my original post.
I did not say that "all non-religious people" worship material gods. What I said, was that non-religious people do not believe in an afterlife. And I didn't really even imply religion, I used terms that would have encompassed all groups with a belief in the continuance of the spirit upon death. Whether that be reincarnation, purgatory, heaven, or hell, is entirely up to your belief system and/or imagination.
What I suggested, was that people with an absolute view toward the finality of life, or life on Earth, tend to make "living" their primary focus. Essentially, the purpose of life is to live, and that there is no other role or point to existence.
I closed out the post with a comment on attaining peace of mind, and the satisfaction that one receives from knowing that they are secure in and of themselves. This could be represented in the belief that one has been "saved," as many Christians feel, or the belief that one is secure enough in themselves and their material possessions, that they will go to their graves with grace, dignity, and in happiness.
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Within the system? To which "system" do you refer? The Blackburn System?
And I don't ramble a wee bit... I ramble a lot. People seem to want to listen to me for some reason. So I give them something to listen to.
Said1 said:
Within the system? To which "system" do you refer? The Blackburn System?
And I don't ramble a wee bit... I ramble a lot. People seem to want to listen to me for some reason. So I give them something to listen to.
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I dunno if dunno is a real word, is it?
I'm not attracted to girls. I don't dislike them, I'm just not attracted to them. Should I have to be attracted to them? I don't think so.
I've had female friends... But I'm just not into the whole sex/relationship thing. Just don't enjoy it. Is that wrong?
Said1 said:
I dunno if dunno is a real word, is it?
I'm not attracted to girls. I don't dislike them, I'm just not attracted to them. Should I have to be attracted to them? I don't think so.
I've had female friends... But I'm just not into the whole sex/relationship thing. Just don't enjoy it. Is that wrong?
Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?
Dunno.
Whatever floats yer boat. Your sexual preferences make no difference to me.
Simpleton said:
Dunno.
Whatever floats yer boat. Your sexual preferences make no difference to me.
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I know. That's why I typically don't talk about it. It's really not anybody's business. And when guy's genuinely seem disinterested in a girl, or puts little to no effort into getting a girl, and has really no history of having relationships with girls, it's usually a pretty good sign that the guy is walking lightly in his loafers.
But that's neither here nor there...
It only really becomes important when people do really bad things, and then try to cover it up by saying it's a love war... Cuz that's just ridiculous... Under the circumstances.
Said1 said:
I know. That's why I typically don't talk about it. It's really not anybody's business. And when guy's genuinely seem disinterested in a girl, or puts little to no effort into getting a girl, and has really no history of having relationships with girls, it's usually a pretty good sign that the guy is walking lightly in his loafers.
But that's neither here nor there...
It only really becomes important when people do really bad things, and then try to cover it up by saying it's a love war... Cuz that's just ridiculous... Under the circumstances.