What is wrong with our "justice" system?

[Said1]

[quote[The reality is that the minorities and the poor are targetted by law enforcement. It's a whole "guilt by suspicion" epidemic that manifests itself in the poor commiting crimes and being caught. [/quote]

Let's be honest here, those on the streets, visibly committing crimes are being targetted. If it happens to be segregated into specific areas, then those areas are targetted. Yes, they are generally poorer neighbourhoods, with higher racial profiles than better off whiter areas, but that doesn't erase the fact that law enforcement officers are needed at the same time. The only emidemic is that it continues, not that the areas are targetted or "guilty by suspicion". Simple supply and demand if you will (I know, bad example). If the communities decided they've had enough and helped rid their streets of crime, then the focus would be placed elsewhere, for the most part.

Seriously, I'm at a loss as to why you don't think strong law enforcement measures shouldn't be placed in areas that are notorious for violence and other ilegal activities. I will be the first to agree that it's not the one and only solution, but still, it is necessary.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?

I'm right on the mark. You're the ignorant one. Do you read papers?

Do I read the newspapers? Is that a joke? If so, it's not very funny.

Life is not learned in a textbook, and it is most certainly not reported in the papers. If your entire knowledge base is derived from what you read in the newspapers, and you lack the mental ability to question what is reported to you by law enforcement and private enterprise, then you are a lost cause. I am clearly wasting my time trying to penetrate your very thick skull.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?

Let's be honest here, those on the streets, visibly committing crimes are being targetted. If it happens to be segregated into specific areas, then those areas are targetted. Yes, they are generally poorer neighbourhoods, with higher racial profiles than better off whiter areas...

Thank you for being honest and offering some validation to my argument.

"...those on the streets, visibly committing crimes are being targetted." That is exactly correct. "...it happens to be segregated into specific areas... those areas are targetted." That is exactly correct. "...they are generally poorer neighbourhoods, with higher racial profiles than better off whiter areas..." Again, that is exactly correct.

Your assumption is that those in better off neighbourhoods do not visibly commit crimes. And on this assumption, you are incorrect. There is just as much crime in the better off neighbourhoods, than there is in the poorer communities. So the question is thus: Why don't the criminals in the better off neighbourhoods get caught?

Do you have an answer? I do! It's because law enforcement targets the poor.

So what's the difference? The diiference is that the statistics are skewed because the poor have a better chance of being caught. Not only this, but the poor are more likely to be penalized for their crimes than the better off folks that somehow manage to get caught.

Of course, you'd never know this if you viewed the world only through the word processors of the daily newspapers.

 

[tamarin]

Simpleton, I was wrong. You're not ignorant; you're stupid.
Newspapers have always been and will remain the first draft of history. Excellent primary sources. I'm hooked on them. You obviously don't read them with any attention.
Let Toronto Dr. Howard Bargman state the facts simply (Toronto Star, Letters to the Editor, Jan 3, 2006): "It continues to disturb me that racism and discrimination are said to be contributory causes to the state of murders by black people. If this fact is true, how does one reconcile this with the reported fact that in Jamaica last year, there were more than 1650 murders on an island with a population of about 2 million?" Margaret Wente backed him up on the same day reiterating what has appeared over and over in the press these last many years: "Police will tell you off the record that 80% or more of the city's gun crime is Jamaican-related."
Hey, I'm sure you're happy that our most successful corporate chief, EnCana CEO Gwyn Morgan (Star: May 18) has lost the nomination to head the new appointments commission for the federal government. His crime? Part of a speech that shared simple realities like this: "The vast majority of violent, lawless immigrants come from countries where the culture is dominated by violence and lawlessness. Jamaica has one of the world's highest crime rates... ."
Oh, but you'll only say he has a "very thick skull" too. How prescient!

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?

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Do you have an answer? I do! It's because law enforcement targets the poor.

So what's the difference? The diiference is that the statistics are skewed because the poor have a better chance of being caught. Not only this, but the poor are more likely to be penalized for their crimes than the better off folks that somehow manage to get caught.

I'm sorry, but that's where you're wrong. The chances of finding a junkie shooting up in the park then desposing their needle in the sand box in the burbs is not nearly as high as they would be in my area. I could go on and give dozens of examples such as being harassed by an aggressive pan-handler at a park located in a public school yard, public drunkeness, muggings etc, etc. While these things do happen in nicer areas, there is no study that will find that the instances are higher - scewed or not, this simply isn't the case. You may find a study showing kids coming into these areas and getting into trouble, but again the crime is still being committed in specific areas that are not generally as well off as those with lower crime rates.

Is it possible that people in better of areas don't get caught as often because the crime rates for certain crimes are actually lower and/or they're not shooting up in the park or the gas station at the same rate as they are in poorer areas, which technically doesn't pose such a threat to the rest of their communities, thus requiring less law enforcement?


I also understand that people with higher incomes are better able to afford a decent lawyer, which of course hightens their chances of getting off any on any charges, not helping matters helping matters in some instances - especially for the poor protesters. :lol:

Of course, you'd never know this if you viewed the world only through the word processors of the daily newspapers.

I certainly hope this isn't directed at me.

 

[tamarin]

How that happy face icon made it in there I have no idea. Elves! The May 18 article appeared under the heading: The speech that sank Harper's nominee.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?

Simpleton, I was wrong. You're not ignorant; you're stupid.
Newspapers have always been and will remain the first draft of history. Excellent primary sources. I'm hooked on them. You obviously don't read them with any attention.
Let Toronto Dr. Howard Bargman state the facts simply (Toronto Star, Letters to the Editor, Jan 3, 2006): "It continues to disturb me that racism and discrimination are said to be contributory causes to the state of murders by black people. If this fact is true, how does one reconcile this with the reported fact that in Jamaica last year, there were more than 1650 murders on an island with a population of about 2 million?" Margaret Wente backed him up on the same day reiterating what has appeared over and over in the press these last many years: "Police will tell you off the record that 80% or more of the city's gun crime is Jamaican-related."
Hey, I'm sure you're happy that our most successful corporate chief, EnCana CEO Gwyn Morgan (Star: May 18) has lost the nomination to head the new appointments commission for the federal government. His crime? Part of a speech that shared simple realities like this: "The vast majority of violent, lawless immigrants come from countries where the culture is dominated by violence and lawlessness. Jamaica has one of the world's highest crime rates... ."
Oh, but you'll only say he has a "very thick skull" too. How prescient!

Perhaps you should give the good Doctor a call and ask him why there is so much crime in Jamaica. By the way, have you ever been to Jamaica?

I've never been to Jamaica, but I know some people that have vacationed there. I know that they refused to eat at a Jamaican McDonalds restaurant because the package said "100% Jamaican beef!" They reported to me that the tourist areas of the country are virtually isolated from the rest of the country, and that the inhabitants of Jamaica live in relative squalor.

What did your earlier post say? Didn't you say that more than 250,000 Jamaicans had emigrated to Canada over the last 30 years? These people, from a country with a total population of about two million? What do you suppose these people were coming to Canada for? To commit crime, or to seek a better life with more opportunity? My guess is that they were seeking a better life. But ya know what? When they got here, they found that they had just moved from one slum to another. The promise of a better life and future in Canada turned out to be an absolute lie.

Have you ever worked with immigrants in low wage jobs? Somehow I doubt it. A lot of them will tell you that their minimum wage jobs in Canada are much better than the lives they lead in their homeland. You really just don't know what you're talking about, tamarin.

Who cares what the police say off the record? Wanna know something? Off the record, police are liars and are as guilty of as many crimes as anyone else -- if not more.

You really just don't have a clue, tamarin.

 

[tamarin]

Hmmm, I've also heard it's cold in Antarctica. Now I've never been there,,,
This is what passes for argument?
The Jamaican problem in Toronto starkly contrasts with the success many other immigrant communities have had there. And they came to the same Toronto. The same one. Values matter. If you come from a country that, as Gwyn Morgan states, has a history of lawlessness and violence there is a good chance some of your fellow migrants will bring that with them. To a fresh start. A new beginning. Bring the same blight with them that most of them fled. Values mean something. Newspapers offer the most current view on the Canadian experience possible. And if you read three and four and five per day that offer the views of widely disparate ideological and political views I think you'll get an excellent grounding on what today's issues are.
There's only one place where we agree: the importance of anecdotal opinion. You mention immigrants and their new lives here being richer despite the obvious struggles involved in low wage jobs etc. That's true. But you'll never admit that they also worry that too much of the baggage they wished to leave in their former home has travelled with them. And Canada, because of its politically correct mantra (as voiced and confirmed by you), refuses to take the lead in confronting such issues and, by doing so, makes this a lesser experience for their families and children.

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Errors in Our Justice System

Let's not insult each other, please.

To the topic of the thread, I would suggest, in fact, that our justice system is not in need of the kind of vast reforms that other members here would seem to suggest. I would suggest that our justice system works as intended — if there are any errors that should be corrected, then these would be our justice statutes. The court system works as it should — our judges and our justices should not be deemed the "culprits", as it were, where the legislation does not provide for the sorts of decisions that some members would seem to think are necessary.

To that end, I think that a quote from The Right Honourable Beverly McLachlin, P.C., the Chief Justice of Canada, would be quite appropriate (in fact, this quote is in my signature at another forum at the moment, since it seems to ring of a truth that each member should consider when thinking of our system of justice here in Canada):

The Right Hon. Beverly McLachlin[/color], P.C.,]There do indeed exist unwritten principles without which the law would become contradictory and self-defeating, and it is the duty of judges not only to discover them, but also to apply them.

I would submit that one of such principles, would be the principle that everyone in Canada deserves a degree of protection — and that includes, most definitively, those accused of having committed wrongful acts. It serves no purpose, and would be a waste of funds, for Canada to just throw persons into penitentiaries and hope that they don't commit a crime again once released. We should be making efforts, as has been suggested above, to ensure that these people continue to be educated and reformed during their time in those institutions, in the hopes that "the system" can prepare them to become productive members of the Canadian society.

 

[Said1]

Re: Errors in Our Justice System

To the topic of the thread, I would suggest, in fact, that our justice system is not in need of the kind of vast reforms that other members here would seem to suggest.

For example?

The court system works as it should — our judges and our justices should not be deemed the "culprits", as it were, where the legislation does not provide for the sorts of decisions that some members would seem to think are necessary.

Again, such as? What are you refuting, exactly?

Do you have a story to tell about how you were caught doing something bad and needed a public defender because you couldn't afford a lawyer? Or know of someone who did? I would be interested in hearing how close up and pesonal you have gotten with our justice system. Do you have a success story? Any advise or examples to draw from that do not come from televison? Serious question.



I have a funny one. I know a retired public defender who still works as a lawyer to suppliament his income. He actually shows up, in court half in the bag. :lol:

Now I know not all are raging alcoholics, but I'd hate to have this guy for a serious charge. :lol:

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Errors in the Justice System

I wasn't referring to statements made in this thread, in particular, Said1 (I should have disclaimed that from the outset, my apologies). However, comments that I have seen elsewhere on these forums, in other threads (comments such as [paraphrased] "judges need to be tougher," and the like) led me to give those statements — they were made in relation to the context of the justice system as a whole, and not necessarily limited to the context of this particular forum.

As for my own experience with the justice system, yes, I do have experience in that regard (though perhaps not to enough of a degree so as to have you note my opinion as a credible one, given the atmosphere of your question). In September of last year, I was hit by an S.U.V. (not the dearest experience of my life, just in case you were curious); the driver (on a "Learner's" license) was charged with failure to yield at a cross-walk, and was sued for damages and health costs.

However, the driver seemed to think that he could avoid paying these costs, by countersuing me and charging me with insurance fraud, suggesting that I had dove against the frame of his vehicle in the hopes of some insurance pay-off. The case has not yet reached a conclusion, although I have been assured that his charges are so baseless that the judge is likely going to laugh her way to the verdict.

My court appearances have been few and far between, but they have nonetheless been interesting. On the first of which, it was on his appeal to the ticket he had been given (failure to yield at a cross-walk); he had apparently come down with a headache due to dental work, and so sent his mother in his stead with a sick-note. The judge did not seem impressed, and convicted him of the ticket immediately, giving a lecture to his mother about how he would need to be more responsible if he wished to defend himself in the future.

So, it's an "almost-success" story, I suppose.

 

[Said1]

Re: Errors in the Justice System

I wasn't referring to statements made in this thread, in particular, Said1 (I should have disclaimed that from the outset, my apologies). However, comments that I have seen elsewhere on these forums, in other threads (comments such as [paraphrased] "judges need to be tougher," and the like) led me to give those statements — they were made in relation to the context of the justice system as a whole, and not necessarily limited to the context of this particular forum.

Ok, although in some cases I would agree that judges weren't tough enough. And it's also important to mention that the instances I'm thinking of (mostly just people I know) they didn't have fancy lawyers, just empithetic judges who kept giving them chance after chance. Mostly drug related charges or charges realtedt to supporting drug habits.

As for my own experience with the justice system, yes, I do have experience in that regard (though perhaps not to enough of a degree so as to have you note my opinion as a credible one, given the atmosphere of your question). In September of last year, I was hit by an S.U.V. (not the dearest experience of my life, just in case you were curious); the driver (on a "Learner's" license) was charged with failure to yield at a cross-walk, and was sued for damages and health costs.

However, the driver seemed to think that he could avoid paying these costs, by countersuing me and charging me with insurance fraud, suggesting that I had dove against the frame of his vehicle in the hopes of some insurance pay-off. The case has not yet reached a conclusion, although I have been assured that his charges are so baseless that the judge is likely going to laugh her way to the verdict.

My court appearances have been few and far between, but they have nonetheless been interesting. On the first of which, it was on his appeal to the ticket he had been given (failure to yield at a cross-walk); he had apparently come down with a headache due to dental work, and so sent his mother in his stead with a sick-note. The judge did not seem impressed, and convicted him of the ticket immediately, giving a lecture to his mother about how he would need to be more responsible if he wished to defend himself in the future.

So, it's an "almost-success" story, I suppose.

I asked out of curiosity and because most real, solid examples of injustice do come from the media, but are not that few and far between as I once thought. Sure judges have certain duties, so do/did many who have lied, cheated, stolen and abused the trust of Canadians, when it was their duty to prevent those very things from happening - or at least try.

Honestly, I think it's what appears to be your blind faith in the "system" and all our "documents" is what often irritates me. No offense of course, especially since I once believed in our government, constituation and legal system to the same degree as you.

With that said, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and doubt the retards counter claim will go anywhere. Sounds like you've had a world of bad luck as of late, I hope the settlement you do receive is a nice one, you certainly deserve it.

 

[Said1]

I was going to correct typos, but am too tired. Pls forgive the sloppier than normal typing.

 

[FiveParadox]

Forgiven, I suppose. Hehe.

Yeah, sorry if my post sounded confrontational. Sorta stressed out.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: Errors in the Justice System

I asked out of curiosity and because most real, solid examples of injustice do come from the media, but are not that few and far between as I once thought. Sure judges have certain duties, so do/did many who have lied, cheated, stolen and abused the trust of Canadians, when it was their duty to prevent those very things from happening - or at least try.

Honestly, I think it's what appears to be your blind faith in the "system" and all our "documents" is what often irritates me. No offense of course, especially since I once believed in our government, constituation and legal system to the same degree as you.

With that said, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and doubt the retards counter claim will go anywhere. Sounds like you've had a world of bad luck as of late, I hope the settlement you do receive is a nice one, you certainly deserve it.

I'm at a loss for words, said1. Are you not the same person that had previously labelled me wrong, for suggesting that there is injustice in the justice system? Are you not the same person that suggested this injustice was not due to prejudice?

Do you want anecdotal evidence of injustice? I can give you anecdotal evidence of injustice, and i can back that anecdotal evidence up with real evidence.

I find it remarkable that someone like tamarin could label me stupid, when her entire thesis is based upon what she is able to absorb from a newspaper or two. I seriously doubt that tamarin has ever spent time in jail, spoken to others convicted of crimes or awaiting trial for alleged crimes, been refused adequate defense and full disclosure prior to trial, been incarcerated for an extended period for refusing to accept a plea deal from the prosecutor, been victimized by a police service that put absolutely no effort into determining the facts, and continues, even to this day, to spin their way around the facts and distort reality to fit their warped ideals. I'm sorry tamarin, but when I say that you're way off the mark, I say it with a voice of experience.

I've been there. I've complained of injustice to law enforcement, and been shrugged off. I've taken matters into my own hands, and been arrested for defending myself. I've been there, I've done it. And I think I have the right to say that the newspapers are wrong, when their story differs from mine.

When I see a newspaper reporter being ignored by police officers when he/she reports a crime, I will give that reporter some credibility. When I see a newspaper reporter arrested for a crime he/she didn't commit, then I'll give that reporter some credibility. When I see a newspaper reporter denied bail and held in custody so that an over-zealous prosecutor can force a guilty plea from an innocent man/woman, then I'll give that reporter some credibility. When I see a newspaper reporter forced to fend for him or herself, because his/her public defender is nowhere to be found, then I'll give that reporter some credibility.

When the reporter actually does the time, or stands accused of the crime, and reports from personal experience, then I'll have to agree that the reporter knows what he/she is talking about. Until then, however, you'll have to excuse me for just laughing at your ignorance and grossly misinformed perspective.

I'll bet you didn't realize that there are many innocent people that plead guilty just to get out of jail? This is one of the tactics that our justice system employs. They will deliberately deny you bail and let you sit in a jail cell for a month or two. Then they'll come calling with a plea deal. If you accept the plea deal and admit guilt, you get out in a day or two. If you maintain your innocence, you spend three or four more months in jail waiting for a trial. It's a disgrace.

And if the prosecutor really wants you to reconsider the plea deal, they will employ all sorts of tactics to stall the trial, or prolong the time required for the trial to come to a close. The end result, is that the innocent person ends up spending far more time in a jail cell, than a person who had actually been guilty and accepted responsibility for the crime. It's really a system where the guilty get punished, and the innocent R E A L L Y get punished.

Of course, if I had been wealthy, I would not have been denied bail. Indeed, if I had been wealthy, the police would not have ignored my complaints of harassment. I would not have had to have taken matters into my own hands. I would not have been arrested and denied bail. I would not have been forced to sit in a jail cell waiting for a trial. I would not have had a "hide and seek" public defender. If only I had been wealthy.

So if anyone wants to tell me that the justice system doesn't target the poor, I will have to strongly disagree with you. If anyone wants to tell me that there is no prejudice in the justice system, I will have to strongly disagree with you. If anyone wants to tell me that they have absolute knowledge of a subject because they read a newspaper, I will simply have to laugh at you.

And that's the fact, mam...

 

[FiveParadox]

RE: Order and Decorum!

I think that members on both sides of this debate would appreciate it if we could refrain from accusing each other of ignorance and stupidity. I know that members would like to hear eachothers' opinions and debate them in an amicable manner, and I don't think it would be a stretch to ask that everyone make an honest effort to refrain from insulting each other.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: RE: What is wrong with our "justice" system?

Hmmm, I've also heard it's cold in Antarctica. Now I've never been there,,,
This is what passes for argument?
The Jamaican problem in Toronto starkly contrasts with the success many other immigrant communities have had there. And they came to the same Toronto. The same one. Values matter. If you come from a country that, as Gwyn Morgan states, has a history of lawlessness and violence there is a good chance some of your fellow migrants will bring that with them. To a fresh start. A new beginning. Bring the same blight with them that most of them fled. Values mean something. Newspapers offer the most current view on the Canadian experience possible. And if you read three and four and five per day that offer the views of widely disparate ideological and political views I think you'll get an excellent grounding on what today's issues are.
There's only one place where we agree: the importance of anecdotal opinion. You mention immigrants and their new lives here being richer despite the obvious struggles involved in low wage jobs etc. That's true. But you'll never admit that they also worry that too much of the baggage they wished to leave in their former home has travelled with them. And Canada, because of its politically correct mantra (as voiced and confirmed by you), refuses to take the lead in confronting such issues and, by doing so, makes this a lesser experience for their families and children.

Huh? But it is cold in Antarctica. I've even done some research for you. The following is taken from the CIA World Fact Book:

severe low temperatures vary with latitude, elevation, and distance from the ocean; East Antarctica is colder than West Antarctica because of its higher elevation; Antarctic Peninsula has the most moderate climate; higher temperatures occur in January along the coast and average slightly below freezing

See, even in the warm season, temperatures average just below freezing.

Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, CanWest Global television predicted a Conservative majority government in the last federal election. As you may know, CanWest media publishes The National and several other newspapers across Canada. BellGlobe Media, publisher of the Globe and Mail, made similar predictions that proved to be wrong. I might add that their predictions were not only wrong in the last election, but in the prior election as well.

So, I sit here in my ignorance and stupidity, and wonder how two of the largest newspaper publishers in Canada could get things so wrong. Sure, they could fault the pollsters for providing them with inaccurate data, but I would find it difficult to believe that these two publishers would be ignorant of the news they had been publishing for the last several years. How could "widely disparate ideological and political views" get things so wrong?

Surely, there is much validity to my claims that newspapers capture only a small portion of the real story. It is absurd to suggest that modern media represents the true pulse of the nation. Especially in a time when communication among the lay person is so readily and cheaply available.

I think, and this is only ignorant conjecture on my part, that media has much less influence on the population today, than they have ever had at any time in the past. Now, more than ever, more and more people are willing, or dare I say it, compelled to question the accuracy of what is reported in the media. Fact checking and personal research has been made very easy by the emergence of the Internet, and the willingness of the average Joe to share information with his/her peers, has fostered a whole new era of competition for mass media. This new competition is not coming from other media publishers and outlets, but from the very people that had long been the readers and absorbers of the printed word.

Bloggers and webmasters have opened up a whole new realm of information gathering that offers both fact and "dead on" opinion. News is no longer being reported strictly from third party observers like newspaper and television reporters, but from real people that are actually experiencing events as they happen. It's a whole new world, Lucy. And Charlie Brown is no longer the gullible fool he once was.

Of course, none of this is new to you, tamarin. After all, you read the newspapers, so you're fully aware of what's happening in the world.

 

[Said1]

Re: Errors in the Justice System

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I'm at a loss for words, said1. Are you not the same person that had previously labelled me wrong, for suggesting that there is injustice in the justice system? Are you not the same person that suggested this injustice was not due to prejudice?

I never said injustice didn't exist, nor did I say that there is no injustice due to prejudice. In short, what I disagreed with was your claim that crime rates in nicer areas was equal to that of poorer areas (or something to that effect)and I also said that law enforcement officers are not needlessly targetting those areas. I gave reasons and I'm not sure you if you have read my last response to you. Either way, I'm not reposting them, you can go back and re-read.

Do you want anecdotal evidence of injustice? I can give you anecdotal evidence of injustice, and i can back that anecdotal evidence up with real evidence.

So can I. So what? Again, I haven't stated that there is no injustice, regardless of it's origins.

 

[Simpleton]

Re: Errors in the Justice System

I never said injustice didn't exist, nor did I say that there is no injustice due to prejudice. In short, what I disagreed with was your claim that crime rates in nicer areas was equal to that of poorer areas (or something to that effect)and I also said that law enforcement officers are not needlessly targetting those areas. I gave reasons and I'm not sure you if you have read my last response to you. Either way, I'm not reposting them, you can go back and re-read.

Actually, I did read your last post, and your writing skills have improved significantly since that post. That's a compliment, not an insult. :lol:

Here's what you wrote:

I'm sorry, but that's where you're wrong. The chances of finding a junkie shooting up in the park then desposing their needle in the sand box in the burbs is not nearly as high as they would be in my area. I could go on and give dozens of examples such as being harassed by an aggressive pan-handler at a park located in a public school yard, public drunkeness, muggings etc, etc. While these things do happen in nicer areas, there is no study that will find that the instances are higher - scewed or not, this simply isn't the case. You may find a study showing kids coming into these areas and getting into trouble, but again the crime is still being committed in specific areas that are not generally as well off as those with lower crime rates.

Is it possible that people in better of areas don't get caught as often because the crime rates for certain crimes are actually lower and/or they're not shooting up in the park or the gas station at the same rate as they are in poorer areas, which technically doesn't pose such a threat to the rest of their communities, thus requiring less law enforcement?


I also understand that people with higher incomes are better able to afford a decent lawyer, which of course hightens their chances of getting off any on any charges, not helping matters helping matters in some instances - especially for the poor protesters.

I read your post. I just didn't really understand what you were saying. Not because I'm stupid, just because I speak English.

 

[Said1]

I've read your posts and I'm leaning towards stupid, among other things. But, while we're on the subject of post quality, would you like me to point out the endless, nonsensical prattle, misunderstandings and typos posted by yours truely? Seriously, I don't mind.

Anyway, we all make typos, for whatever reason - some of us are tired after a long day at work or are in a rush. Personally, I take the time to try and understand what a person is saying despite unintended errors, instead of poking fun at their mistakes and pretending not to understand their post.

While It's true, I do sometimes bug people, you will find it's never about their english or spelling errors.