What a Fascist sounds like when he opens his mouth

BitWhys

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Again, the Wheat board did not apply nationwide, so you still had to bid...

Not within the region it didn't. It knew the volume it would have to handle by checking the crop reports.

afa NAFTA goes Chapter 11 applies no matter what else is going on. Under the agreement government policy cannot favour one entity over another within an open sector, which is exactly what maintaining Part III guarantees will do.

Subsidies are sector-wide. What Strahl is creating isn't.
 
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Zzarchov

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I wasn't aware markets were limited by region in regards to commodities (hint: Iits because you are not). You were still competing with the wheatboard when selling this grain to be used.


As for NAFTA, The matter was brought before the WTO. So while Chapter 11 is nice in theory, the NAFTA agreement isn't worth the paper its written on (remember the softwood lumber dispute), in terms of subsidies, the US can't complain about any we have while they have larger.
 

BitWhys

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I wasn't aware markets were limited by region in regards to commodities...

figures.

NAFTA and the WTO are administered by entirely separate tribunals dealing with entirely separate sets of agreements.
 

Zzarchov

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Yet, NAFTA complaints go the WTO for final ruling before tariffs can be imposed. As membership in the WTO is not bypassed for local deals.

Similar situations happened with softwood lumber, and is the very reason (why as stated previously) the WTO ruled on the wheat board.


So, other than taking sarcasm as truth to try and spin, you got any solid defense that relies upon actual knoweldge of the situation, or are you going to keep running in circles hoping I'll get bored or correcting you?
 

BitWhys

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...Similar situations happened with softwood lumber, and is the very reason (why as stated previously) the WTO ruled on the wheat board...

The NAFTA and WTO rulings on softwood resulted in different rulings regarding different subject matters.
 

BitWhys

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...So, other than taking sarcasm as truth to try and spin, you got any solid defense that relies upon actual knoweldge of the situation, or are you going to keep running in circles hoping I'll get bored or correcting you?

You can keep lying, making stuff up and trolling all you want. I'll just make the best of it since there's no one around who's capable of doing so properly that's interested in debating this with me. I hoped for better but it serves my purpose.
 

Zzarchov

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Well, I've shown the information on everything I've listed.

You know, using facts.

You've tried to change your story, been caught lying, and relied upon name calling. So.. If I had to go with a troll I think it would be fairly obvious who it is.

So do you have anything to build a solid defence with or can you just admit you either did not understand the situation or were being sensationalist to blow off steam?
 

BitWhys

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Well, I've shown the information on everything I've listed.

You know, using facts.

You've tried to change your story, been caught lying, and relied upon name calling. So.. If I had to go with a troll I think it would be fairly obvious who it is.

So do you have anything to build a solid defence with or can you just admit you either did not understand the situation or were being sensationalist to blow off steam?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

like that entire post didn't arrive from directly under the bridge.
 

Zzarchov

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

like that entire post didn't arrive from directly under the bridge.


You have been caught BitWhys, for once someone called you on your claims and you came up empty, so you are again boiling down to name calling rather than showing any dignity or grace.
 

BitWhys

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You have been caught BitWhys, for once someone called you on your claims and you came up empty, so you are again boiling down to name calling rather than showing any dignity or grace.

for once?

:lol:

you give me far too much credit.
 

BitWhys

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You've established you believe barley farmers are entitled to a market driven money pit for the good of the country and in doing so have demonstrated you are not opposed Fascism.
 

Zzarchov

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And you have demonstrated you also are not opposed to fascism when you support the same principles being used in education for the good of the nation.

So I suppose I should call you a fascist then?
 

BitWhys

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And you have demonstrated you also are not opposed to fascism when you support the same principles being used in education for the good of the nation.

So I suppose I should call you a fascist then?

as long you point out its because I support public funding for schools, be my guest. just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean no one else can. as the saying goes, its your funeral. none of my business how you get yourself there.
 
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Zzarchov

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So you think its not fascism if its ensuring your kids get dealt with for 8 hours a day, but it is fascism if its ensuring you have food to eat? you have odd Priorities.

I'd rather teach my own kids and have food, then starve to death while my kids receive education from the state (If I had to choose one or the other)
 

BitWhys

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So you think its not fascism if its ensuring your kids get dealt with for 8 hours a day, but it is fascism if its ensuring you have food to eat?...

Its Fascism if the self-regulating market provides a satisfactory solution without goverment involvement. If it can't the farmers have no right to demand an open market.
 

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Its Fascism if the self-regulating market provides a satisfactory solution without goverment involvement. If it can't the farmers have no right to demand an open market.


So you agree schools are fascist? Since the self-regulating market either provides a satisfactory solution without government involvement, OR if it can't, schools have no right to demand and open market.

Currently the school system is fascist by your definition, just wanted to be clear on that.
 

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continue to point out his errors when he continues to post with no relevant information :p

Its ok BitWhys, Im only still arguing with you (and your not completely a fool, don't be so harsh) because I noticed in earlier threads you have a compulsion to always have the final post, I think its humurous to see how long you'll keep posting "responses" with no new information that are usually less than a sentance.
 

BitWhys

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...make sure he's not similarly engaged.

the pot calls the kettle black. heh.