Were these weapons a gift to the gods?

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Everytime an old scrapyard is uncovered in the UK, it's elevated to an ancient battlefield.

No. Too much of it was going on for it to have been an accident.

Also, many, if not most, of the weapons and other artefacts that were deliberately bent or snapped before being buried or thrown in a lake, pond, river, stream or bog seem to have been brand new and some would have been useless as weapons, such as blunt swords. It seems that the ancient Britons liked making some weapons specifically to offer to the gods rather than to actually use.

Things get bent and broken in the couse of thier utilization, there is absolutly no way you or anyone else can prove any intent whatever to placate Gods with purposeful destruction of otherwise good tools. That is not science it's rank speculation of the lowest order.

Blunt swords were rutinely resharpened, have a look arround for grinding wheels, I believe you have already published about them having been invented in Brittian.
 

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5.5. Geography and chronology of biblical events.
5.5.1. Problems with traditional geographical localizations.
Even if the vowels of common words are not that important (you can easily reconstruct a well-known word from the context), the situation changes completely when combination of consonants meaning a city, country, the name of a king, etc., appears in an ancient text. Tens and hundreds of different variants of vowels for one term (word) may be found, stating the "identifications" of the biblical vowel-free names of cities, countries, and others, made by traditional historians proceeding from the chronological (and geographical) version of J.Scaliger and the localization referring the biblical events to the Near East. As the archaeologist M.Burrows notes, the archaeological job generally leads to the undoubtedly strongest creed in the reliability of biblical information (cit.from [18], p. 16). F.Kenyon of the British Museum insists as much categorically on archaeology refuting the "destructive skepticism of the second half of the 19th century" [18]. But here is unexpected information reported by the well-known archaeologist G.Wright, who, by the way, is a staunch partisan of the correctness of orthodox localization and of traditional dating biblical events. He wrote, "A great many findings do not prove or disprove anything; they fill the background and only serve as historical artifacts. Unfortunately, the desire "to prove" the Bible permeates many works available to the average reader. Historical evidences may be used in an incorrect manner, whereas the conclusions dawn are often erroneous and only half correct" ([18], p. 17). If we attentively examine the fundamental facts about the Bible discovered by N.A.Morozov [19], then we shall see that none of the books of the Old Testament contain any solid archaeological confirmation of their traditional geographical and time localization. As I.A.Kryvelev noted, the whole "Mesopotamian" biblical theory will be questioned. The traditional localization of the events described in the New Testament is no better. I.A.Kryvelev many years studied the biblical geography and chronology. He wrote, "The reader interested in biblical archaeology may be bewildered by the hundreds of pages speaking of excavations, landscapes, or artifacts, historical and biblical background. And, in the conclusion, when it comes to the results of the whole job, there are only a number of indistinct and imprecise statements about the problem not having been completely solved, but that there is still hope for the future, and so forth. We may be absolutely sure that none of the stories of the New Testament contains any somewhat convincing archaeological confirmation (in terms of the traditional localizations - Authors). This is perfectly true, in particular, if applied to the figure and biography of Jesus Christ. Not a single spot traditionally regarded as the arena of a particular event occurring in the New Testament can be indicated with the slightest degree of confidence" ([18], p. 200-201). The natural question arises: where the events of Old and New Testaments were geographically located in reality?
5.5.2. Where ancient Troy was located?
In reality, considerable difficulties accompany the attempts of geographical localization of many of the ancient events and cities
 

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Everytime an old scrapyard is uncovered in the UK, it's elevated to an ancient battlefield.



Things get bent and broken in the couse of thier utilization, there is absolutly no way you or anyone else can prove any intent whatever to placate Gods with purposeful destruction of otherwise good tools. That is not science it's rank speculation of the lowest order.

Blunt swords were rutinely resharpened, have a look arround for grinding wheels, I believe you have already published about them having been invented in Brittian.

It was done deliberately. There are far too many daggers bent completely double being dug up from lakes and streams and peat bogs for it to have been accidental.
 

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Very well I see religion prevents any elevated discussion about historical artifacts. A thousand years from now in Britton an Austin will be excavated and declared a religious shrine or a sacrificial alter.

The engine block will be unearthed sometime later and believed to have been offered up after some successfull battle.
 

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Very well I see religion prevents any elevated discussion about historical artifacts. A thousand years from now in Britton an Austin will be excavated and declared a religious shrine or a sacrificial alter.

The engine block will be unearthed sometime later and believed to have been offered up after some successfull battle.


No, it wouldn't, because we live in an age where we write down our religious beliefs and ceremonies and record them on film, which is not something the Neolithic and Bronze Age Britons did.

Historians don't even know what language (or languages) the Neolithic Britons spoke, but it certainly wasn't a written one.
 

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No, it wouldn't, because we live in an age where we write down our religious beliefs and ceremonies and record them on film, which is not something the Neolithic and Bronze Age Britons did.

Historians don't even know what language (or languages) the Neolithic Britons spoke, but it certainly wasn't a written one.

Historians don't no when or how the bronze age started or where and there is absolutly no facts whatever about Neolithic Briton. Excuse me I was wrong, they are certain there where stones.
 

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People in Bronze Age Britain, and in the earlier Neolithic, often buried weapons (as happened with the axe and spear in the article) or threw them in lakes, ponds, rivers, streams and bogs. They often deliberately bent or snapped such objects before burying them or immersing them. Archaeologists belief it was a religious ceremony they were carrying out. It gives an insight into the religion of the British people - my ancestors - at that time.

I suppose that they came from Spain, too :)
 

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Historians don't no when or how the bronze age started or where and there is absolutly no facts whatever about Neolithic Briton. Excuse me I was wrong, they are certain there where stones.

The Bronze Age started in around 3000BC in Sumer in southern Mesopotamia, in the south of the modern nation of Iraq.

The Bronze Age in Britain started around 2500BC and lasted until around 800 BC.