We Candians Should be Embarassed

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My point is think..that what you call anti american is perhaps just what I think it is..anti bush, anti republican, anti war. This does not makes us anti american. I am tired of hearing that, its unfair and not true! Yes there are plenty of anti americans in canada, and there are many anti canadians in america, more so because you have a much larger population. I am not going to post any links, I don't have the stomach for it. And please feel free to post canada misdeeds, they are certainly enough. I have no problem looking at my government past and present and seeing the wrong doing they have done, and I won't be justifing it either. Have a nice day!
 

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peapod said:
My point is think..that what you call anti american is perhaps just what I think it is..anti bush, anti republican, anti war. This does not makes us anti american. I am tired of hearing that, its unfair and not true! Yes there are plenty of anti americans in canada, and there are many anti canadians in america, more so because you have a much larger population. I am not going to post any links, I don't have the stomach for it. And please feel free to post canada misdeeds, they are certainly enough. I have no problem looking at my government past and present and seeing the wrong doing they have done, and I won't be justifing it either. Have a nice day!

Anti-Bush, Anti-Republican, Anti-War I think is anti-American? LOL

Yes, have a nice day Peapod.
 

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Just to quiet down those who seem miffed that "the left" didn't speak out about this immediately (I was elsewhere), this is from something I wrote. It was published on January 6, 2004.

Given the often unintended destinations and results the small arms trade has, the question is if Canada should be involved at all. We claim to be a peace-keeping nation, yet we supply weapons of war to other countries. An example of this is SNC Industrial Technologies of La Gardeur, Quebec. Although their main customer is the Department of National Defence, according to Project Ploughshares SNC has, cited “"export experience" with over 30 other countries, including Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Ecuador, Oman, Russia, Thailand and the former Yugoslavia,” in reports to Industry Canada.

I don’t mean to single out SNC, since they are by no means the only small arms manufacturer and exporter in Canada. NISAT and the Small Arms Survey commissioned a list that contains a total of twelve Canadian companies that produce and export small arms, ammunition, and components for those arms. We make and export everything from sights to pistols to machine guns. While most of that goes to police forces and our military allies, the existence of a black market and the ever-changing political situations around the world leave such exports open to abuse.

Where is the left, indeed. So far ahead of the right that you'll never catch up.
 

Jay

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"So far ahead of the right that you'll never catch up."

To bad it's in the wrong direction... :wink:
 

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RE: We Candians Should be

I'm saying that I'm certainly part of the left. More than that, most of the sources used in gathering information from that article, as well as the group that delivered the report in the story that Mr. Mom posted, are generally considered leftist organisations by the Republican/Conservative coalition that's always yarking about socialism and how we're all just anti-American.

You made a claim that was untrue, ITN. You did so because you couldn't be bothered learning the facts. I think you owe us an apology.
 

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Re: RE: We Candians Should be

Reverend Blair said:
I'm saying that I'm certainly part of the left. More than that, most of the sources used in gathering information from that article, as well as the group that delivered the report in the story that Mr. Mom posted, are generally considered leftist organisations by the Republican/Conservative coalition that's always yarking about socialism and how we're all just anti-American.

You made a claim that was untrue, ITN. You did so because you couldn't be bothered learning the facts. I think you owe us an apology.

I owe you an apology for what? For being anti-American? I think not.
 

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I think not said:
Are you saying you represent the left?

Actually ITN, that does have a lot of merit, at least on this board...

The Rev has consistently shown that he knows the political issues from many perspectives, and is able to disseminate the information down to the rest of us who are not so politically savvy...yes he is left-wing, but he has also shown that he knows the right-wing ideology, probably better than most right-wingers do...

Before you go off on an implicit-trust tangent, no, I do not take the Rev's word as gospel...but he has given me enough reason to at least read what he has to say...that can be said of few other posters on this forum...
 

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I don't think anyone who spends any amount of time around here, thinks the Rev isn't well read...thats for sure.
 

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Vanni Fucci said:
I think not said:
Are you saying you represent the left?

Actually ITN, that does have a lot of merit, at least on this board...

The Rev has consistently shown that he knows the political issues from many perspectives, and is able to disseminate the information down to the rest of us who are not so politically savvy...yes he is left-wing, but he has also shown that he knows the right-wing ideology, probably better than most right-wingers do...

Before you go off on an implicit-trust tangent, no, I do not take the Rev's word as gospel...but he has given me enough reason to at least read what he has to say...that can be said of few other posters on this forum...

Sorry Vanni, but when the Rev accuses people that do not conform with his thought patterns of being paid by right-wing think tanks to spread lies, I think that has alot to say about how politically savvy he is.

If you support Ralph Klein, you're garbage. If you don't support SSM, you have an "agenda". You've read all this yourself I'm not going to go through it.

Does he represent the left? Well if thats true, then I wonder who is paying him to do that, the very action he has accused right leaning posters of doing.

Why should I believe someone who gets paid to write? I'll place more weight on someone who can express an opinion without getting paid from political sources.
 

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Vanni Fucci said:
I think not said:
Why should I believe someone who gets paid to write? I'll place more weight on someone who can express an opinion without getting paid from political sources.

Well then we should be square, you and I...but somehow, I don't think that we are...

That doesn't exactly negate my point.
 

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Ah! the oldest raven trick of them all...go for the strongest in the herd...and take it down, so you can munipulate. Sure the rev may say things he shouldn't on a personal level. But we know dam well he knows his facts. Perhaps you would be happy with a Poll of this board!!!!!!!! Right lets just do that.

I repeat...those here who you call anti american, are anti bush, anti republican government, anti war....NOT anti american.
 

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I don't think you should characterize ITN as one who goes after the strongest in the herd.

Hah! You assume who is the strongest in your herd?

:)

And, from what I see, ITN, if you allow me ITN, responds to whoever steps up to the plate, sincerely.

I don't think ITN cares a damn to "manipulate" as you put it.
 

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no1important said:
The Rev is well read and bang on with his facts. He knows what he is talking about. You should go to Vive le Canada and read some of his articles. They are very good. :)

I have read some of them, awhile back.
 

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Well I wasn't addressing you personally. When I do, and I'm wrong, I will apologize.

That's okay, I never asked for a personal apology. That's why I said, "us" instead of "me".

Are you saying you represent the left?

You'll notice that I haven't said that because, while I am part of the left, I am not in charge. Nor do I want to be.



Does he represent the left? Well if thats true, then I wonder who is paying him to do that,

Nobody pays me to post here or on any other board.

Why should I believe someone who gets paid to write?

Why shouldn't you? You've quoted things from the press. You've listened to political speeches. You've watched movies, and television. You've likely read the back of a cereal box. Those are all written by people who are paid to write.