Wal-mart rejected again!
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You have got to be kidding Blue good made in China quality :lol: :lol: .The wages at Wlmart are so great you can afford to buy a new home or car :wink: pleeease give me a break what color is the sky in your world Blue
I think you been smoking some bad shit :wink:Go into the towns under 15,000 of population and look at what happens when Walmart opens. I can think of Two towns Dryden, On.where a Walmart opened and slowly dried up the samll town businesses. Selkirk,Mb where a Walmart has just opened and the businesses in the downtown district are beginning to close up shop.
Do you honestly believe that one busines with a team of Tax lawyers pays more in taxes than a group or groups of small businesses? Especially when that company is known to use as much pressure as it can to achieve the lowest price from its distributor. Don't you think they would drive even harder at getting any advanatage from the government?
Your argument is exactly why jobs are going overseas. That twenty dollars you saved just became forty you have to pay back to the government to support people on welfare and unemployment.This prevailing attitude sends our manufacturing industries out of North America.When jobs go the tax burden becomes heavier.
Do you honestly believe that one busines with a team of Tax lawyers pays more in taxes than a group or groups of small businesses? Especially when that company is known to use as much pressure as it can to achieve the lowest price from its distributor. Don't you think they would drive even harder at getting any advanatage from the government?
Your argument is exactly why jobs are going overseas. That twenty dollars you saved just became forty you have to pay back to the government to support people on welfare and unemployment.This prevailing attitude sends our manufacturing industries out of North America.When jobs go the tax burden becomes heavier.
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I guess the Alberta Advantage protects us from that. Thank God. And another reason to thank Alberta.
However regarding the unemployment issue, if the people were not employed at Walmart, would I not have to support them as well through unemployment and welfare? If these people were not employed, would they not be spending their money locally? Would they not be paying taxes to support social programs?
Another question: If a shirt at Walmart costs $15 and the same shirt at another small business store costs $65 (which I have seen), does this not beg the question of why the difference in price? After all, could not the small business buy this shirt from Walmart for $15 and sell for $30 and still make 100% profit?
I know this is a simplification, but maybe instead of criticizing Walmart, we should be taking a look at the small business who seems to have no problem gouging the hell out of its local citizens?
zenfisher said:
I guess the Alberta Advantage protects us from that. Thank God. And another reason to thank Alberta.
However regarding the unemployment issue, if the people were not employed at Walmart, would I not have to support them as well through unemployment and welfare? If these people were not employed, would they not be spending their money locally? Would they not be paying taxes to support social programs?
Another question: If a shirt at Walmart costs $15 and the same shirt at another small business store costs $65 (which I have seen), does this not beg the question of why the difference in price? After all, could not the small business buy this shirt from Walmart for $15 and sell for $30 and still make 100% profit?
I know this is a simplification, but maybe instead of criticizing Walmart, we should be taking a look at the small business who seems to have no problem gouging the hell out of its local citizens?
RE: Wal-mart rejected aga
When it took over Woolco in Canada, Walmart closed the 7 unionized stores, costing Canada 1,000 jobs. Walmart also converted Woolco's garages to oil and lube operations and asked mechanics to take huge wage cuts and fired 500 well-paid Woolco warehouse workers.
Some were (I believe Saskatchewan had one) and the ones that were Wal Mart declined to buy as you know, people who work for Wal Mart can't make a half descent wage, its against Wal Mart policy.
What advantage is that? The lowest minimum wage in the country or the oil companies wanting to bring in cheap labour from other countries?
When it took over Woolco in Canada, Walmart closed the 7 unionized stores, costing Canada 1,000 jobs. Walmart also converted Woolco's garages to oil and lube operations and asked mechanics to take huge wage cuts and fired 500 well-paid Woolco warehouse workers.
Some were (I believe Saskatchewan had one) and the ones that were Wal Mart declined to buy as you know, people who work for Wal Mart can't make a half descent wage, its against Wal Mart policy.
What advantage is that? The lowest minimum wage in the country or the oil companies wanting to bring in cheap labour from other countries?
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Better check your facts. Alberta just raised minimum wage a couple of months ago, about in the middle of the pack. However, the reality is that virtually no one pays minimum wage in Alberta anyway. Both my daughters, with no experience other than a high school student, entered the work force at at least $1 per hour above minimum wage.
Don't believe everything (anything?) you hear on the CBC.
no1important said:
Better check your facts. Alberta just raised minimum wage a couple of months ago, about in the middle of the pack. However, the reality is that virtually no one pays minimum wage in Alberta anyway. Both my daughters, with no experience other than a high school student, entered the work force at at least $1 per hour above minimum wage.
Don't believe everything (anything?) you hear on the CBC.
RE: Wal-mart rejected aga
Interesting report card on companies reguarding sweatshops. Funny Wal Mart gets an "F".
Interesting report card on companies reguarding sweatshops. Funny Wal Mart gets an "F".
RE: Wal-mart rejected aga
Just did. $5.90 an hour. Goes to 7 in September. Link from Alberta Employment Standards
Province General Wage
Alberta $5.90
BC $8.00
Manitoba $7.25
New Brunswick $6.30
Newfoundland $6.00
NWT $8.25
Nova Scotia $6.50
Nunavut $8.50
Ontario $7.45
PEI $6.80
Quebec $7.60
Saskatchewan $6.65
Yukon $7.20
The above from this link.Click Me
So as of today Blue, Alberta is still the lowest.
Just did. $5.90 an hour. Goes to 7 in September. Link from Alberta Employment Standards
Province General Wage
Alberta $5.90
BC $8.00
Manitoba $7.25
New Brunswick $6.30
Newfoundland $6.00
NWT $8.25
Nova Scotia $6.50
Nunavut $8.50
Ontario $7.45
PEI $6.80
Quebec $7.60
Saskatchewan $6.65
Yukon $7.20
The above from this link.Click Me
So as of today Blue, Alberta is still the lowest.
Hmmm... Walmart pays what $7.50 per hour...if that. A fair manufacturing job pays $12.50 ph Which job contributes more to the economy? The maufacturing job will pay more back to the goverment in taxation, by the factory that is still open and the worker themself. It also increases the buying power of an individual stimulating the economy. This too, is an oversimplification.
As for the shirt. Businesses are required to maintain a regular price for a specific number of days out of the year. Otherwise they could not advertise them as sale prices. The same shirt could indeed have been in that cycle.You are also comparing a small business to a huge multi-conglomerate. Even if the two stores had the same supplier, the likelyhood is the small store may have been able to afford 20 shirts while Walmart could afford to buy 200,000 shirts. Who would get the better deal? This is why Costco works...you buy a larger quantity than you would at a normal grocery store. ( Also for those interested...Costco actually is good to their employees. It treats them fairly...pays them a living wage...that too makes a difference in how they are perceived.) But I digress...You have to determine which truly saves you more money in the long run. While Walmart may seem to be saving you a little bit of cash now...in the long run it ends up costing you more.
Make that $5.90 at the top there #1 your to quick.
As for the shirt. Businesses are required to maintain a regular price for a specific number of days out of the year. Otherwise they could not advertise them as sale prices. The same shirt could indeed have been in that cycle.You are also comparing a small business to a huge multi-conglomerate. Even if the two stores had the same supplier, the likelyhood is the small store may have been able to afford 20 shirts while Walmart could afford to buy 200,000 shirts. Who would get the better deal? This is why Costco works...you buy a larger quantity than you would at a normal grocery store. ( Also for those interested...Costco actually is good to their employees. It treats them fairly...pays them a living wage...that too makes a difference in how they are perceived.) But I digress...You have to determine which truly saves you more money in the long run. While Walmart may seem to be saving you a little bit of cash now...in the long run it ends up costing you more.
Make that $5.90 at the top there #1 your to quick.
A guy would have to work 4 different jobs just to pay his rent on that wage 8O Richest province in Canada and all you can afford is 5.90/hr thats f**king just plain rude what year are you stuck in out there 8O Thats a total disgrace
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Very true. Plus wal mart workers would get a break on their monthly medical bill as they would be considered working poor and costing tax payers more money. Not all the manufacturing plants have benifits but many do.
Very true. Plus wal mart workers would get a break on their monthly medical bill as they would be considered working poor and costing tax payers more money. Not all the manufacturing plants have benifits but many do.
mrmom2 said:
I stand corrected, but after you take into consideration the lowest personal income tax rates and no PST in Alberta, that changes the equation. And in Sept, just less than two months from now when the wage goes up, it becomes even better.
But still you must consider that very few jobs in Alberta are paid at minimum wage. Most jobs start over the new min wage as of Sept.
So don't go too crazy on Alberta, there are other advantages that have to be taken into consideration. Including that with the lowest unemployment rate in Canada, very few jobs get paid at minimum.
RE: Wal-mart rejected aga
You have one of the highest costs of living in the country, Blue. Don't try to pass off a low tax rate as a reason for having a minimum wage so embarassingly low. That's a sign of a government that hates working people and nothing more.
You have one of the highest costs of living in the country, Blue. Don't try to pass off a low tax rate as a reason for having a minimum wage so embarassingly low. That's a sign of a government that hates working people and nothing more.
mrmom2 said:
I think the sad part is that minum wage is NOT limited to low skilled jobs it is intended for. Sometimes it seems as though everyone here pays minimum wage - c'ept walmart of course. :x
People change their jobs everyday. If they don't like where they work, who is stopping them from changing?
Whats the difference between McDonalds and Wal-Mart? They both pay minimum wage. People that work in low wage jobs are usually unskilled workers.
Having that said, governments need to increase the minimum wage, the current levels are ridiculous. Shame.
Whats the difference between McDonalds and Wal-Mart? They both pay minimum wage. People that work in low wage jobs are usually unskilled workers.
Having that said, governments need to increase the minimum wage, the current levels are ridiculous. Shame.
I think not said:
FYI, MacDonalds in our town has starting wages in the $7 - $8 per hour range. Why? Because they have to in order to get workers, typically students. That is because hardly anyone gets paid minimum, at least here.
The other side of the minimum wage equation is how it affects small business, like the mom and pop stores. Increasing the wage generally means these business have to either reduce hours or staff. The other argument used is that too high a minimum wage takes away incentives for workers to improve to get to a higher wage. Not sure I agree with that, though.
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My younger sister works at McDonalds for 7,55$ an hour. Thats our minimum wage, btw.
No clue what it is for Alberta though.
bluealberta said:
My younger sister works at McDonalds for 7,55$ an hour. Thats our minimum wage, btw.
No clue what it is for Alberta though.
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Less than that right now, going to $7/hr in Sept. You make my point, that the minimum wage is really not in effect anyway, the market place typically dictates the minimum wage, and most good employers realize they have to pay at least at or above market rates to get good employees. I also think we have to get past the thought that everyone deserves at least $12 - $15/hr. Entry level jobs are just that, and are geared to entry level people, and to provide skills which enable the employees to improve themselves and get better jobs. I suspect there are many former McDonald employees who are now service people at restaurtants, making much more per hour, and now getting tips.
Numure said:
Less than that right now, going to $7/hr in Sept. You make my point, that the minimum wage is really not in effect anyway, the market place typically dictates the minimum wage, and most good employers realize they have to pay at least at or above market rates to get good employees. I also think we have to get past the thought that everyone deserves at least $12 - $15/hr. Entry level jobs are just that, and are geared to entry level people, and to provide skills which enable the employees to improve themselves and get better jobs. I suspect there are many former McDonald employees who are now service people at restaurtants, making much more per hour, and now getting tips.