Vikings More Humane that other Middle Age groups

[Jersay]

Well I found this of PBS, Who were the Vikings I believe it was from Wikipedia and they were saying that the Vikings were more humane than other groups.

They stated that they did attack monestaries, and other things but this were individual kings or pirates and not major armies from Vikings leaders. Second, they usually attacked these places it is believed from PBS for food and money.

Also, they were more adaptable than other groups. So when they conquered an area instead of killing everyone they could adapt women, children and men into their people. So for example the Sami of Finland. They didn't kill them they used them as archers.

So what do you guys think.

 

[Finder]

Well I found this of PBS, Who were the Vikings I believe it was from Wikipedia and they were saying that the Vikings were more humane than other groups.

They stated that they did attack monestaries, and other things but this were individual kings or pirates and not major armies from Vikings leaders. Second, they usually attacked these places it is believed from PBS for food and money.

Also, they were more adaptable than other groups. So when they conquered an area instead of killing everyone they could adapt women, children and men into their people. So for example the Sami of Finland. They didn't kill them they used them as archers.

So what do you guys think.

They may have raped, pillaged and plundered, but hey they did it with a smile. lol

 

[Jersay]

Well I found this of PBS, Who were the Vikings I believe it was from Wikipedia and they were saying that the Vikings were more humane than other groups.

They stated that they did attack monestaries, and other things but this were individual kings or pirates and not major armies from Vikings leaders. Second, they usually attacked these places it is believed from PBS for food and money.

Also, they were more adaptable than other groups. So when they conquered an area instead of killing everyone they could adapt women, children and men into their people. So for example the Sami of Finland. They didn't kill them they used them as archers.

So what do you guys think.

Supposedly that is a misconception of the Vikings. As well as the horns and other things.

They may have raped, pillaged and plundered, but hey they did it with a smile. lol

 

[Finder]

Well you know many pics of Vercingetorix show him with horns on his helm. Though you know the normal Roman solduers helm which we see in themovies and think of being romans is actually orginally the traditional celtic helm. Also the Roman the gladius is extremely close to the traditional celtic sword. When you think when the Romans first were conqoured by the celts the romans were still using the phalanx and mostly spear and shield, and only few used swords. Also the roman shield as we see it is also based on the celtic shield. during the celtic sacking of Rome the romans still used small round like shields.


The celts were too good to the Romans and Italians. If we had treated them like they would treat the Celts later when the rolls were turned around the celts could have prevented the celtic culture from being pushed out of much of Europe. The celts should have stayed in Italy and ruled over the Romans and their ilk

 

[Jersay]

Well you know many pics of Vercingetorix show him with horns on his helm. Though you know the normal Roman solduers helm which we see in themovies and think of being romans is actually orginally the traditional celtic helm. Also the Roman the gladius is extremely close to the traditional celtic sword. When you think when the Romans first were conqoured by the celts the romans were still using the phalanx and mostly spear and shield, and only few used swords. Also the roman shield as we see it is also based on the celtic shield. during the celtic sacking of Rome the romans still used small round like shields.


The celts were too good to the Romans and Italians. If we had treated them like they would treat the Celts later when the rolls were turned around the celts could have prevented the celtic culture from being pushed out of much of Europe. The celts should have stayed in Italy and ruled over the Romans and their ilk

Yeah. And then the Vikings could steam roll in and take over everything.

 

[Finder]

Naaaa.

They say that the main reason behind the celtic downfall was the inability to make a celtic nation state of any sort. However they say during the time of the Roman conquest Vercingetorix were extremely close to forming a celtic nation. I believe one of the main centres of the nation would likely have been Alésia which was Vercingetorix last stand of sorts as well. To think if the Celtic kings and chiefs had formed these alliances and tried to make a nation 100 years early things may have been different.

Though of course even the Romanized celts were a immpotant part of Roman life and the military.

Also without Romanized celts the UK wouldn't have had their imperial legacy either. lol. To think the anglo-saxons embraced the legacy in which there forfathers had fought against.

 

[Jersay]

Naaaa.

They say that the main reason behind the celtic downfall was the inability to make a celtic nation state of any sort. However they say during the time of the Roman conquest Vercingetorix were extremely close to forming a celtic nation. I believe one of the main centres of the nation would likely have been Alésia which was Vercingetorix last stand of sorts as well. To think if the Celtic kings and chiefs had formed these alliances and tried to make a nation 100 years early things may have been different.

Though of course even the Romanized celts were a immpotant part of Roman life and the military.

Also without Romanized celts the UK wouldn't have had their imperial legacy either. lol. To think the anglo-saxons embraced the legacy in which there forfathers had fought against.

Yeah its great, but don't tell Blackleaf that. He might throw up.

 

[Colpy]

Well I found this of PBS, Who were the Vikings I believe it was from Wikipedia and they were saying that the Vikings were more humane than other groups.

They stated that they did attack monestaries, and other things but this were individual kings or pirates and not major armies from Vikings leaders. Second, they usually attacked these places it is believed from PBS for food and money.

Also, they were more adaptable than other groups. So when they conquered an area instead of killing everyone they could adapt women, children and men into their people. So for example the Sami of Finland. They didn't kill them they used them as archers.

So what do you guys think.

What do I think?



HA HA is what I think.

Yes, the Vikings have been demonized, as evidenced by the popular culture view of them in their horned helmets......which they never wore. That was an invention of the Monks, who wanted to make them look like Satan or demons.

They were, however, a pretty bloody bunch, and they did raze, rob, and murder among the monastaries of Europe. They settled down after a couple of hundred years due to a number of factors.......not the least of which was their conversion to the much more pacific Christian religion.............

Remember that Jersay, one of the greatest factors in the humanization of the Dane was their conversion from paganism to Christianity......

 

[Jersay]

What do I think?



HA HA is what I think.

Yes, the Vikings have been demonized, as evidenced by the popular culture view of them in their horned helmets......which they never wore. That was an invention of the Monks, who wanted to make them look like Satan or demons.

They were, however, a pretty bloody bunch, and they did raze, rob, and murder among the monastaries of Europe. They settled down after a couple of hundred years due to a number of factors.......not the least of which was their conversion to the much more pacific Christian religion.............

Remember that Jersay, one of the greatest factors in the humanization of the Dane was their conversion from paganism to Christianity......

But they razed, robbed and murdered in an era when that was suppose to occur. To debate what Christianity did or did not do to Viking people is mute now, even though it did survive. However, the Viking I believe first off had to settle down even with or without Christianity influencing it because it had to have the same political, economic and other straind that occur in any group of people.

 

[Jersay]

Lately though like in the 13th warrior it also appears that Vikings are represented as more like Mercenaries which most were I believe.

 

[Colpy]

What do I think?



HA HA is what I think.

Yes, the Vikings have been demonized, as evidenced by the popular culture view of them in their horned helmets......which they never wore. That was an invention of the Monks, who wanted to make them look like Satan or demons.

They were, however, a pretty bloody bunch, and they did raze, rob, and murder among the monastaries of Europe. They settled down after a couple of hundred years due to a number of factors.......not the least of which was their conversion to the much more pacific Christian religion.............

Remember that Jersay, one of the greatest factors in the humanization of the Dane was their conversion from paganism to Christianity......

But they razed, robbed and murdered in an era when that was suppose to occur. To debate what Christianity did or did not do to Viking people is mute now, even though it did survive. However, the Viking I believe first off had to settle down even with or without Christianity influencing it because it had to have the same political, economic and other straind that occur in any group of people.

Yeah, I was going to note that the Vikings turned to the kinder, gentler notions of Christianity.......just in time for the Crusades. 8O

 

[Jersay]

Yeah the Crusades were a peaceful time. And they probably still had most of their traditions and the Christians allowed this to ensure their alligeance in battle.

 

[Jersay]

And Norse Vikings were still fighting and had territory until 1260s.

 

[Finder]

What do I think?



HA HA is what I think.

Yes, the Vikings have been demonized, as evidenced by the popular culture view of them in their horned helmets......which they never wore. That was an invention of the Monks, who wanted to make them look like Satan or demons.

They were, however, a pretty bloody bunch, and they did raze, rob, and murder among the monastaries of Europe. They settled down after a couple of hundred years due to a number of factors.......not the least of which was their conversion to the much more pacific Christian religion.............

Remember that Jersay, one of the greatest factors in the humanization of the Dane was their conversion from paganism to Christianity......

But they razed, robbed and murdered in an era when that was suppose to occur. To debate what Christianity did or did not do to Viking people is mute now, even though it did survive. However, the Viking I believe first off had to settle down even with or without Christianity influencing it because it had to have the same political, economic and other straind that occur in any group of people.

Yeah, I was going to note that the Vikings turned to the kinder, gentler notions of Christianity.......just in time for the Crusades. 8O

good point