Video allegedly shows bin Laden with hijackers

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CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Jazeera broadcast Thursday a previously unshown video of the preparations for the Sept. 11 attacks in which al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden is seen meeting with some of the planners and hijackers in a mountain camp in Afghanistan.

The station did not say how it obtained the video, which was produced by As-Sahab, al-Qaida’s media branch.

The video included the last wills and testaments of two of the hijackers, Wail al-Shehri and Hamza al-Ghamdi.

It was the fourth in a series of long videos that al-Qaida has put out to memorialize the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a private U.S. company that monitors militant message traffic and provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

The previous ones were issued in April and September 2002 and September 2003, each showing video from the planning of the suicide hijackings and farewell statements from some of the hijackers, Venzke told The Associated Press.

In the latest video, bin Laden is shown sitting outside in what appears to be a mountain camp with his former lieutenant Mohammed Atef and Ramzi Binalshibh, another suspected planner of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, was killed by a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in 2001. Binalshibh was captured four years ago in Pakistan and is currently in U.S. custody, and this week President Bush announced plans to put him on military trial.


Weapon-carrying followers greet bin Laden
Bin Laden — wearing a dark robe and white headgear — strolls through the camp, greeting dozens of followers, some masked, and many carrying automatic weapons.

Al-Jazeera said that among those he greets in the video are several of the 9/11 hijackers, but their faces were not clear and it was not immediately known which ones are shown.

The footage shows scenes of training at the camp. Masked militants perform martial arts kicks or learn how to break the hold of someone who grabs them from behind. Several militants are shown practicing hiding and pulling out fold-out knives.

Venzke said the footage shown on Al-Jazeera was part of a video he expected would be more than an hour long, based on the previous ones on the Sept. 11 attacks.

“They produce long videos like these not just for 9/11, but for any significant events they feel warrant their attention,” Venzke said.

One aim is to boost recruitment, but such videos have several purposes — “to speak to their supporters, to raise morale within their own group, to facilitate fund-raising, and to serve as a psychological attack,” he said.

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C'mon, ITN, you know that everyone in the video is CIA and Mossad operatives cleverly disguised as terrorists. If you love real close inside one of the caves there, you can see Dick Cheney and Karl Rove high-fiving each other....
 

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C'mon, ITN, you know that everyone in the video is CIA and Mossad operatives cleverly disguised as terrorists. If you love real close inside one of the caves there, you can see Dick Cheney and Karl Rove high-fiving each other....


Good one, here is an evidence of what you are saying.


Gadahn was born Adam Pearlman, the son of musician Phil Pearlman. Gadahn's family raised and butchered goats in accordance with halal food requirements for sale to Muslim groceries on a farm in Riverside County, California. Gadahn's Jewish grandfather, Carl Pearlman, was a prominent surgeon and on the Board of Directors of the ADL, but Gadahn's father converted to Christianity and changed his name to "Gadahn", derived from the name of the Biblical figure "Gideon". He was homeschooled until 15, when he moved in with his grandparents in Santa Ana, California. Gadahn was fond of heavy metal music and later briefly listened to Christian radio before converting to Islam.[citation needed] In 1995, Gadahn posted an essay to the USC website describing his conversion, entitled "Becoming a Muslim".[2] According to his parents, Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998, where he married an Afghan refugee and maintained intermittent contact with his family.[3]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn
 

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Logic 7 said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha , so funny, you are not very lucky person that i follow the whole episode on 9-11, and guess what??


al-Shahri is one of the suspects BBC reported as still alive after 9-11.


lol, here is the proof of it.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

That article was issued 2 weeks after September 11th. You think their may have been some confusion still?
 

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The timing of this "new" video,

is almost serendipitous. Almost on the anniversary of 9/11, and just after Bush announces the presence of secret bases where interrogations were carried out.

Pardon me if I don't get too excited.......:roll:
 

Toro

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Al-Qaeda has released a video every year co-inciding with the anniversary of 9/11.

Al-Jazeera airs pre-9/11 bin Laden tape

By BASSEM MROUE, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Jazeera broadcast Thursday a previously unshown video of the preparations for the Sept. 11 attacks, in which al-Qaida chief
Osama bin Laden is seen meeting with some of the planners in an Afghan mountain camp.
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The station said that bin Laden also is shown greeting some of the hijackers, although their faces were not clear and it was not immediately known which are purportedly shown.

The video included the last wills and testaments of hijackers Wail al-Shehri and Hamza al-Ghamdi.

Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the video, which was produced by As-Sahab, al-Qaida's media branch. Islamic militant Web forums said the entire video would be posted soon on the Internet. Such advertisements in the past have come a day or two before the video appears on the Web.

Thursday's was the fourth in a series of long videos that al-Qaida has put out to memorialize the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the
Pentagon and World Trade Center, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a private U.S. company that monitors militant message traffic and provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

The previous ones were issued in April and September 2002 and September 2003, each showing video from the planning of the suicide hijackings and farewell statements from some of the hijackers, Venzke said.

In the latest video, bin Laden is shown sitting outside with his former lieutenant Mohammed Atef and Ramzi Binalshibh, another suspected planner of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Venzke said the scenes had not been previously broadcast.

Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, was killed by a U.S. airstrike in
Afghanistan in 2001. Binalshibh was captured four years ago in Pakistan and is in U.S. custody.
President Bush announced plans to put him on military trial.

The video shows bin Laden in a dark robe and white headgear, strolling through the camp and greeting dozens of followers, some masked, and many carrying automatic weapons. A voice-over narration praises the fighters and refers to the camp being "on the soil of Kandahar" — a city in southern Afghanistan.

The footage shows scenes of training at the camp. Masked militants perform martial-arts kicks or learn how to break the hold of someone who grabs them from behind. Several militants are shown practicing with fold-out knives.

Venzke said the footage was part of a video he expected would be more than an hour long, based on previous releases.

He said the full version of the video was believed to include a message from Azzam al-Amriki, the nom de guerre of Adam Yehiye Gadahn, an American who the
FBI says has associated with al-Qaida. Gadahn appeared in an al-Qaida video released last week, in which he called on Americans to convert to Islam.

The full video also likely includes messages from bin Laden or his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, though they may not be new, Venzke said, without elaborating on why he believed that.

"They produce long videos like these not just for 9/11, but for any significant events they feel warrant their attention," Venzke said.

One aim is to boost recruitment, but such videos have other purposes — "to speak to their supporters, to raise morale within their own group, to facilitate fundraising, and to serve as a psychological attack," he said.

The footage also shows glimpses of daily life in the camp, with men chopping wood and cutting up vegetables for dinner.

Al-Shehri and al-Ghamdi are each shown speaking to the camera, their images superimposed over pictures of the crumbling World Trade Center towers and the burning Pentagon, as well as a model of a passenger jet.

They both say Muslims must stand up and fight the West.

"If jihad now is not an obligation (on Muslims), when will it be?" said al-Shehri, pointing to attacks on Muslims in Bosnia, Afghanistan and
Chechnya.

"If we are content with being humiliated and inclined to comfort, the tooth of the enemy will stretch from Jerusalem to Mecca, and then everyone will regret on a day when regret is of no use," al-Ghamdi said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_video
 

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Re: RE: Video allegedly shows

I think not said:
Logic 7 said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha , so funny, you are not very lucky person that i follow the whole episode on 9-11, and guess what??


al-Shahri is one of the suspects BBC reported as still alive after 9-11.


lol, here is the proof of it.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

That article was issued 2 weeks after September 11th. You think their may have been some confusion still?


So?? BBC has proven that those terrrorist are still alive and well, you can twist it, the way you want, but only naive peoples will fall into this.
 

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Re: RE: Video allegedly shows

Logic 7 said:
I think not said:
Logic 7 said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha , so funny, you are not very lucky person that i follow the whole episode on 9-11, and guess what??


al-Shahri is one of the suspects BBC reported as still alive after 9-11.


lol, here is the proof of it.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

That article was issued 2 weeks after September 11th. You think their may have been some confusion still?


So?? BBC has proven that those terrrorist are still alive and well, you can twist it, the way you want, but only naive peoples will fall into this.

Yes yes, we wouldnt want to be fooled by the Jooish/Zionist network Al Jazeera would we?
 

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Logic 7 said:
thomaska said:
C'mon, ITN, you know that everyone in the video is CIA and Mossad operatives cleverly disguised as terrorists. If you love real close inside one of the caves there, you can see Dick Cheney and Karl Rove high-fiving each other....


Good one, here is an evidence of what you are saying.


Gadahn was born Adam Pearlman, the son of musician Phil Pearlman. Gadahn's family raised and butchered goats in accordance with halal food requirements for sale to Muslim groceries on a farm in Riverside County, California. Gadahn's Jewish grandfather, Carl Pearlman, was a prominent surgeon and on the Board of Directors of the ADL, but Gadahn's father converted to Christianity and changed his name to "Gadahn", derived from the name of the Biblical figure "Gideon". He was homeschooled until 15, when he moved in with his grandparents in Santa Ana, California. Gadahn was fond of heavy metal music and later briefly listened to Christian radio before converting to Islam.[citation needed] In 1995, Gadahn posted an essay to the USC website describing his conversion, entitled "Becoming a Muslim".[2] According to his parents, Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998, where he married an Afghan refugee and maintained intermittent contact with his family.[3]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Ok, did you lose track of which thread you were reponding to?
 

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thomaska said:
Logic 7 said:
thomaska said:
C'mon, ITN, you know that everyone in the video is CIA and Mossad operatives cleverly disguised as terrorists. If you love real close inside one of the caves there, you can see Dick Cheney and Karl Rove high-fiving each other....


Good one, here is an evidence of what you are saying.


Gadahn was born Adam Pearlman, the son of musician Phil Pearlman. Gadahn's family raised and butchered goats in accordance with halal food requirements for sale to Muslim groceries on a farm in Riverside County, California. Gadahn's Jewish grandfather, Carl Pearlman, was a prominent surgeon and on the Board of Directors of the ADL, but Gadahn's father converted to Christianity and changed his name to "Gadahn", derived from the name of the Biblical figure "Gideon". He was homeschooled until 15, when he moved in with his grandparents in Santa Ana, California. Gadahn was fond of heavy metal music and later briefly listened to Christian radio before converting to Islam.[citation needed] In 1995, Gadahn posted an essay to the USC website describing his conversion, entitled "Becoming a Muslim".[2] According to his parents, Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998, where he married an Afghan refugee and maintained intermittent contact with his family.[3]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Ok, did you lose track of which thread you were reponding to?


I think the question is heading to you, you said cia did the video, and i said yes here is the proof, the one on the video, is a zionist/american who , who has worked for the mossad in the 90's, apperently he has convert to islam, i guess for the benifit of the Secret service agency.
 

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How very thoughtful of OBL and his group to release that tape just when Bush is out on his hate charged political campaign.

yeah ... huh ...


 

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gopher said:
How very thoughtful of OBL and his group to release that tape just when Bush is out on his hate charged political campaign.

yeah ... huh ...

Yeah, lets just focus on that aspect of it. Then in a few weeks, when all is forgotton, we can go back to our claims about how there's no evidence, none. zero, zilch, that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11.
 

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Why is it that evidence that supports the official and real explanation for 9/11 is immediately dismissed by the doubters.but anything flimsy,distorted,and outright false is taken to be the truth if it paints Bush in a critical light? What ever happened to analytical thought?
 

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Re: RE: Video allegedly shows bin Laden with hijackers

wallyj said:
Why is it that evidence that supports the official and real explanation for 9/11 is immediately dismissed by the doubters.but anything flimsy,distorted,and outright false is taken to be the truth if it paints Bush in a critical light? What ever happened to analytical thought?

That's a great question.
 

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RE: Video allegedly shows

"Then in a few weeks, when all is forgotton, we can go back to our claims about how there's no evidence, none. zero, zilch, that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11."


You gotta admit, it is very thoughtful of him to appear just when Bush starts his political campaigns every year.
 

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gopher said:
"Then in a few weeks, when all is forgotton, we can go back to our claims about how there's no evidence, none. zero, zilch, that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11."


You gotta admit, it is very thoughtful of him to appear just when Bush starts his political campaigns every year.

Yeah, that's what everyone is gearing up for this time of year, Bush's political campaign. It's not like there's any, uh, anniversaries, or anything, coming up.
 

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Re: RE: Video allegedly shows bin Laden with hijackers

wallyj said:
Why is it that evidence that supports the official and real explanation for 9/11 is immediately dismissed by the doubters.but anything flimsy,distorted,and outright false is taken to be the truth if it paints Bush in a critical light? What ever happened to analytical thought?

There is no such thing as analytical thought for CT's, they need someone or something to do the thinking for them. At best, the CT's cut and paste, at worst, they distort the laws of physics and perhaps more importantly common sense.
 

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gopher said:
How very thoughtful of OBL and his group to release that tape just when Bush is out on his hate charged political campaign.

yeah ... huh ...

Yeah, lets just focus on that aspect of it. Then in a few weeks, when all is forgotton, we can go back to our claims about how there's no evidence, none. zero, zilch, that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11.


Exactly, there is absotly no evidence, here is the proof.


http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


Tell me where they say, oussama is wanted or even just suspected for 9-11?


I guess i will wait for the rest of my life.