Great article no1...all verytrue, and at the same time, very sad that most of the American people don't see it...
US Guilty of Starting Not One, but Three Illegal Wars
- Thread starter Vanni Fucci
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Why bother Mike. Saddam killed more of his people in a week, than the US could ever kill yet most people on this site would love to see him resume his seat as president in Iraq.
Near sightedness is rampant on this site.
Actually, if you just look at the rate of killing, George Bush has been much more efficient than Saddam at murdering Iraqis. Go figure.
crit13 said:
...and so this should absolve the US of any wrongdoing?
crit13 said:
...and it would seem stupidity has become more prevalent of late... :lol:
It's the immoral relativism of the right, Vanni. It's all okay if they do it because their god has more guns than everybody else's gods.
Of course not. I was opposed to the war so keep your childish comments to yourself. My problem with this entire situation is that Saddam and his Baath party regularily killed Iraqis (almost exclusively Shia muslims) on a daily basis.
Where the f*ck were all the protesters???? All you lefties had 30 years to protest yet not ONE single protest. As soon as the US goes in, the streets are packed with tree hugging students and other radical lefties that couldn't point out eye-rack on a map. I guess the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and over a million Iranians lives meant nothing.
You've got that commodity cornered.
You really are clueless. Saddam was responsible for over a two hundred thousand deaths. He was responsible for over 2 million Iraqi and Iranian deaths if you include the war.
The latest UN numbers claim that approximately 10,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed. The UN also admits that the real number may be lower because many insurgents and Saddams Fedayeen army took off their uniforms and fought in civilian clothing.
Judging from this and your other posts, it's fair to assume that math is not your strong suit. Lucky for you, cashing in your welfare cheque and buying a few cases of beer to last you the weekend doesn't require a lot of addition and subtraction.
And yet another well though out rebuttal by a leftie communist.
You're nothing but a bigot. God forbid someone doesn't tow the leftie line. I see there are many young mini-Martins following in his footsteps.
He would be so proud.
We were protesting the failure of the international community to deal with human rights abuses and fighting to get the sanctions lifted because they were clearly not having an effect on Saddam. What, were you not paying attention?
Over how many years? The US killed 100,000 in two years according to the best scientific survey available. I think the math works out to the US being 20% percent more efficient at killing Iraqis or something like that. The UN numbers you quote are very low.
You are going to stop making this kind of attack immediately. Do you understand?
So you admit that you were not protesting the systematic murder of Iraqis by Saddam.
The UN numbers that I am quoting were "civilians". The number you are quoting include people caught in gun battles and other casualties that come from suicide bombings, beheadings and road side bombs. You know, The ones that kill 23 Iraqi civilians an injure 2 Americans.
I will stop as soon as you stop calling me bigot, racist, homophobe, xenophobe, neo-con etc.
Iraq Body Count
Political Wire
Scoop
al Jazeera
WSWS
The 100,000 figure comes from the only scientific survey that has been done. It passed peer review. Results from Fallujah were not included because the killing was so high there that it would have skewed the results.
Political Wire
Scoop
al Jazeera
WSWS
The 100,000 figure comes from the only scientific survey that has been done. It passed peer review. Results from Fallujah were not included because the killing was so high there that it would have skewed the results.
The first site you referred me to says the body count is at 17,000.
Oops. Maybe you should actualy read the sites before you pass them on.
By the way, there was no scientific survey done. It's impossible to differentiate betweem combatinants and civilans when they are all wearing civilian clothing and living among the populace.
Your propaganda tactics may work on the children on this site that hate all things US, but it won't work on people with with educations higher than the 6th grade.
Oops. Maybe you should actualy read the sites before you pass them on.
By the way, there was no scientific survey done. It's impossible to differentiate betweem combatinants and civilans when they are all wearing civilian clothing and living among the populace.
Your propaganda tactics may work on the children on this site that hate all things US, but it won't work on people with with educations higher than the 6th grade.
And you can give yourself a big pat on the back crit13, all those grade 6ers just have to read your posts and they would vote the rino party in before they would vote conservative. You are a disgrace to your party and you are one of the reasons its being destroyed.
Actully I put up a variety of links to demonstrate that there are number of different estimates. There is, however, only one scientific poll that has been peer reviewed. It does include civilians as well as members of the military, but to say that all Irqis are possible insurgents because they dared to fight back against an invading army is ridiculous. Would you not fight to protect your country, Crit? In similar circumstances, would join the official military or wage a guerilla war? Would that make you a member of the military or just some guy who was pissed off because your children were killed and your brother raped with a broomstick?
Crit wouldn't fight for his country hes a closet nazi .Hes the type of guy that would rat out his own mother
