UN: Canadian Pot a No No

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Chad Skelton, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, June 27, 2006

The increasing potency of marijuana -- spurred on by hydroponic growers in places such as B.C. -- means the world should no longer consider pot a "soft" drug, according to a report released Monday by the United Nations.

"Today, the harmful characteristics of cannabis are no longer that different from those of other plant-based drugs such as cocaine and heroin," Antonio Maria Costa, director of the UN's Office on Drugs and Crimes, said in a written statement.

Each year, the UN produces a World Drug Report that surveys drug production and consumption worldwide.

While this year's report covers everything from opium production in Afghanistan to cocaine consumption in Europe, it takes specific aim at marijuana in a section titled, "Cannabis: Why We Should Care."

The report argues that marijuana is by far the most popular drug in the world, with about 162 million users every year compared to just 16 million for opiates and 13 million for cocaine.

And the number of marijuana users worldwide has jumped by more than 10 per cent since the late 1990s -- a larger increase than for any other illicit drug.

"The cannabis pandemic, like other challenges to public health, requires . . . a consistent commitment across the political spectrum and by society at large," Costa said in his statement.

The substance in marijuana that produces its effect is tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as THC.

The UN report argues that the increasing popularity of indoor-grown, hydroponic marijuana in recent decades has caused the THC level in marijuana to more than double in many parts of the world.

The UN report acknowledges that marijuana is different from heroin and cocaine -- noting it is almost impossible to overdose on it and, because it is so cheap, its users are far less likely to commit crimes to feed their habits.

But the report argues marijuana is still a dangerous substance that requires attention.

"Cannabis is not the harmless herb often portrayed, but a psychoactive drug that deserves to be taken seriously," the report states.

While marijuana remains illegal in virtually all countries, the report states there is a "global blind-spot" with many nations making the drug a low priority for enforcement.

The report does not single out which countries it believes have taken a lenient approach to pot.

But the Netherlands has long tolerated marijuana use and Canada took steps under the former Liberal government to decriminalize possession of small amounts of the drug.

Neil Boyd, a criminologist at Simon Fraser University, said while marijuana can have negative effects on its users, it is less harmful than many other substances -- both legal and illegal.

"When you place it alongside alcohol, tobacco, cocaine and heroin -- I think those drugs are more dangerous," he said.

And Boyd questioned whether the increased THC content of pot is really cause for concern.

One of the biggest health risks of marijuana use, he said, is the inhaling of smoke from joints -- which can cause lung problems similar to those experienced by cigarette smokers.

The more THC in a joint, Boyd said, the less the user needs to smoke to get the same effect -- making them more healthy, not less.

The UN report states that Canada produces an estimated 900 to 2,400 metric tonnes of marijuana a year -- and supplies about 12 per cent of all the marijuana in the U.S.

But that pales in comparison to the world's largest producers of pot, including Morocco (98,000 tonnes a year), Afghanistan (50,000), Paraguay (15,000), Mexico (10,400) and the U.S. (4,455).

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COUNTING THE COST

The United Nations drug office found these prices in Canada for commonly abused illegal drugs. Prices are per gram.

Cannabis (leaf) $9 to $23

Heroin (No. 4) $320 to $740

Crack $90 to $180

Methamphetamine $92 to $185

Retail prices, 2004

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimes...674fbca-7a07-46f1-b784-7a262aea2f70&k=343&p=1
 

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Retail prices, 2004

* snicker *

Retail prices. :lol:


I can't believe that this is even an issue. Does anyone on this board actually care if people are drinking or smoking pot? Does anyone actually want to force people to stop? I don't think so, and I don't think that most of the country wants to either.

Mind you, studies say that a good portion of Canadians actually care if Steve and Steve get married. And it doesn't effect them in any way what so ever.
 

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RE: UN: Canadian Pot a No

I await a strong retort from the potato chip and breakfast cereal manufacturers.
 

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Jersay said:
I am glad that the U.N has issued this report. Because Marijuna isn't a soft drug it is dangerous.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Marijuana is not dangerous. It is no more dangerous then alcohol.

Are you trying to say that marijuana should be in the same category as heroin and cocaine?
 

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Durka do you know anyone who smokes and sells pot. Do you do it yourself. If not shut the f*ck up. because i knew two people who did it and their lives were screwed up because of it.
 

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I have smoked it before on many occaisons and it has never caused me any ill effects. As for selling drugs, regardless of the type, it is a dangerous occupation. So you sir, can shut the F*ck up.

MADD only gets involved because, like any drug/alcohol, Getting behind the wheel when you are drunk/stoned can and will cause accidents.
 

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DurkaDurka said:
Jersay said:
I am glad that the U.N has issued this report. Because Marijuna isn't a soft drug it is dangerous.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Marijuana is not dangerous. It is no more dangerous then alcohol.

Are you trying to say that marijuana should be in the same category as heroin and cocaine?


If marijuana is dangerous, then alcool should be considered as dangerous as well, alcool is about 100 times more dangerous than marijuana in any way,by following this way of thinking, drug prescriptions also should be considered as very dangerous.
 

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DurkaDurka said:
I have smoked it before on many occaisons and it has never caused me any ill effects. As for selling drugs, regardless of the type, it is a dangerous occupation. So you sir, can shut the F*ck up.

MADD only gets involved because, like any drug/alcohol, Getting behind the wheel when you are drunk/stoned can and will cause accidents.


Alcool and fatigue are mainly responsible for accidents, according to recent research.

But i agree , those who smoke shouldnt drive ,when they are stoned.
 

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Jersay said:
Durka do you know anyone who smokes and sells pot. Do you do it yourself. If not shut the f*ck up. because i knew two people who did it and their lives were screwed up because of it.

Yeah Right.

I started smoking dope when I was 14.

That was in 1969, when you could get LIFE for selling the stuff.

I grew up with dope smokers. They are all now in their late 40s, early 50s. Some of them STILL smoke dope on almost a daily basis, and they have raised good kids, hold down jobs, and are damned decent people (although some of them would share your
political views....)

I hardly touch the stuff now, but smoked regularly when I was in university. I graduated with degree in History and Political Science.......and a GPA of 4.1.

Is there a downside to pot? Of course, but it is LESS risky than alcohol by a VERY long shot, and is much safer than tobacco.

Most of the harm dome by marijuana is not because of its effects, but because of its illegality.
 

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DurkaDurka said:
Jersay said:
I am glad that the U.N has issued this report. Because Marijuna isn't a soft drug it is dangerous.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Marijuana is not dangerous. It is no more dangerous then alcohol.

Are you trying to say that marijuana should be in the same category as heroin and cocaine?

Marijuana does pose some health dangers, especially to the respiratory system, but the report does mention that tobacco use and alcohol consumption are more dangerous.

I have, personally, smoked pot on several occasions in the past. I did not get addicted to the substance, I did not pay for the substance, and I did not enjoy the effects of the substance. As for other persons using cannabis, I have no comments or cares.
 

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aeon said:
DurkaDurka said:
Jersay said:
I am glad that the U.N has issued this report. Because Marijuna isn't a soft drug it is dangerous.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Marijuana is not dangerous. It is no more dangerous then alcohol.

Are you trying to say that marijuana should be in the same category as heroin and cocaine?


If marijuana is dangerous, then alcool should be considered as dangerous as well, alcool is about 100 times more dangerous than marijuana in any way,by following this way of thinking, drug prescriptions also should be considered as very dangerous.

Many prescription drugs do pose certain dangers to patients who do not heed the warnings provided. Drugs that have a sedative effect, tend to include warnings that the patient should not operate machinery or a motor vehicle while on the drug. Doctors also have the legal ability to rescind a person's drivers license, if they have a medical condition, or are taking medications that would make them a hazard to public safety.

Most doctors probably don't exercise their power to strip people of their drivers license, but it is a power that they most certainly have.
 

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Simpleton said:
Many prescription drugs do pose certain dangers to patients who do not heed the warnings provided. Drugs that have a sedative effect, tend to include warnings that the patient should not operate machinery or a motor vehicle while on the drug. Doctors also have the legal ability to rescind a person's drivers license, if they have a medical condition, or are taking medications that would make them a hazard to public safety.

Most doctors probably don't exercise their power to strip people of their drivers license, but it is a power that they most certainly have.


True i agree, however having marijuana legalized, would be more than just good benifit for canadians,company that would do marijuana will have to detail what it is in the mari, same for side effects, if it is prescribes by their doctors. General people won't have to deal with illegal criminal organisation like the hells angels, that is a pretty advantage.
Amsterdam is one of the safest city in the world, isnt just by a coincidence.
 

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You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Marijuana is not dangerous. It is no more dangerous then alcohol.

No more dangerious than alcohol?

First I'd like to bet jersay's left arm that it's no where near as dangerious as alcohol.

Second I'd like to bet your right arm that "not being as dangerious as alcohol" does not mean it's not dangerious.

I understand the overall point you were trying to make: alcohol is 'worse' than marijuana, so why treat marijuana as though it was worse.

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