UK is now the second largest global power, defying Brexit scaremongerers

Scooby

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The EU is a terrible concept, always was. The UK is smart to get out of it, Germany and France won't carry the weight and it will collapse before long.
 

Blackleaf

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The EU is a terrible concept, always was. The UK is smart to get out of it, Germany and France won't carry the weight and it will collapse before long.

According to Drunker Juncker in his state of the union speech, Britain is going to regret leaving. But he was quickly attacked by a certain UKIP MEP by the name of Nigel Farage:

Brexit: UK will 'soon regret' leaving EU argues Juncker


Brexit is "a very sad and tragic moment in our history"

BBC News
13 September 2017

The UK will "soon regret" leaving the EU, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has said.

Mr Juncker told the European Parliament that Brexit would be a "sad, tragic" moment for the EU but that the 27-member union would "move on".

"Brexit is not the future of Europe. It is not the be all and end all."

But, speaking in the same debate, ex-UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the EU had "learnt nothing" from Brexit and was ploughing "full steam ahead".

In his state of the union speech in Strasbourg, Mr Juncker proposed an EU summit on the day after Britain leaves the EU, 30 March 2019, in the Romanian city of Sibiu to map out the future of the European Union.

He called for closer economic and defence co-operation among member states, including more support for states outside the eurozone to prepare them to join the single currency, and reforms to the single market.

Reflecting on the economic and political challenges that the continent had faced in recent years, he said the "wind is back in Europe's sails".

While he respected the choice of the British people to go their own way, he said the UK's exit would prove a "very sad, tragic moment in our history" which we "will always regret".

Responding to UKIP MEPs in the chamber, who had cheered the mention of the UK's exit, he added - in an off-the-cuff remark not included in advance copies of the speech - "I think you will regret it as well soon, if I might say."

But he went on to stress that Brexit "was not everything" and an increasingly confident EU would continue to advance, focusing as he put it on the big strategic challenges rather than "the small things".

'More Europe'

Mr Farage, the best known campaigner in the Parliament for the UK's withdrawal from the EU, attacked what he said were "truly worrying" plans to create a single president of the EU, an EU finance minister and a "strong EU army in a militarised Europe".

He said what was being proposed was "more Europe in every single direction... without the consent of the people".


The EU would further centralise power after Brexit, Mr Farage said

He also warned the idea of allowing future candidates to the European Parliament to stand on transnational tickets, rather than representing nation states, was anti-democratic and "reminiscent of regimes of old".

"You have learnt nothing from Brexit. If you had offered David Cameron concessions, particularly on immigration, I would have to admit that the Brexit vote would never ever have happened," he said.

Telling MEPs "thank God we are leaving", Mr Farage said the EU was "deluding itself" if it believed the "populist wave" of protests against the established European political order was over.

Responding to Mr Juncker's comments, UK Justice Minister Sam Gyimah said his initial reaction was "he would say that, wouldn't he" and he had signalled a future direction for Europe that "Britain was never going to go in".

Rather than "berating Britain", the Conservative MP told the BBC's Daily Politics that the EU's best interests would be served by agreeing a Brexit deal which made the whole of Europe more prosperous and secure.

Negotiations between the UK and EU are continuing although the latest round of talks, due to begin on Monday, have been put back a week to allow "more time for consultation".

Speaking on Tuesday, former Brexit minister Lord Bridges said the UK must be "honest" about the "complexity and scale" of leaving the EU as well as the lack of time to reach agreement with the EU.




And France's economy minister has sounded a warning that it will aggressively target new business as it seeks to make Paris the pre-eminent financial centre on the continent.

Changes to the country's labour laws meant France would become the "place to be" for financial services, Benjamin Griveaux told BBC Radio 4's Today, while acknowledging London would remain a major player.

"We need to have a fair Brexit, but we need to move on and we need probably more clarity and less ambiguity from the British government regarding the target of Brexit," he added.

Brexit: UK will 'soon regret' leaving EU argues Juncker - BBC News
 
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Bar Sinister

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And what countries would those be?

Considering Britain has invaded or colonised all but 22 of the world's nations maybe it's all, or some, of those 22.

You know, the nations that don't live on past glories. Hell, even the French have given up believing that they really matter anymore.

The EU is a terrible concept, always was. The UK is smart to get out of it, Germany and France won't carry the weight and it will collapse before long.

I believe the same comment was made about the United States. As a matter of fact it could still be made considering that the US is also carried by a handful of states. However, the whole is always greater than any of the parts.
 

Blackleaf

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You know, the nations that don't live on past glories. Hell, even the French have given up believing that they really matter anymore.

That's bewcause the French DON'T matter anymore. Even their language doesn't.

I believe the same comment was made about the United States. As a matter of fact it could still be made considering that the US is also carried by a handful of states. However, the whole is always greater than any of the parts.

The EU is, essentially, a German empire.

And the last two German empires in Europe ended up proving catastrophic.
 

Bar Sinister

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That's bewcause the French DON'T matter anymore. Even their language doesn't.



The EU is, essentially, a German empire.

And the last two German empires in Europe ended up proving catastrophic.

...the French DON'T matter anymore. Even their language doesn't. And neither do the Brits. BTW why is it that you have not yet decided on a common language in Britain. Some regions speak a language that is almost incomprehensible.

And thanks for making your anti-EU stance clear. I thought it was actually actually about the EU. It turns out that you were just jealous of the Germans.
 

ZulFiqar786

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I’ve never been to Europe, but some of my friends in the U.K tell me the reason why Brexit was so popular was because people were tired of the Eastern Europeans, you know, Poles, Bulgarians, Romanians, Lithuanians, etc., that they are very dirty people and gutter type people whose women are very sexually promiscuous and do prostitution just to make some extra cash. In other words a people that have absolutely no code of honor, no culture, and simply filthied the streets of London.
 

Bar Sinister

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I’ve never been to Europe, but some of my friends in the U.K tell me the reason why Brexit was so popular was because people were tired of the Eastern Europeans, you know, Poles, Bulgarians, Romanians, Lithuanians, etc., that they are very dirty people and gutter type people whose women are very sexually promiscuous and do prostitution just to make some extra cash. In other words a people that have absolutely no code of honor, no culture, and simply filthied the streets of London.


No, Brexit was popular because your UK friends were racist. It is a simple as that.