Trucker protest at U.S. border crossing reportedly several kilometres long

[MyOpinion]

IMO, Trudeau should have spoken to people at the start.

He didn't; that's his fuck up.

Anything he does NOW is going to go badly.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Honestly he painted himself into this corner and there's nothing for him to do but to wait for the paint to dry.

Meanwhile the province can handle things for the most part.

But I think the longer this goes on, the worse it is on the truckers.

The problem with the Province handling it is that while the Province put the measures in place, the local constabulary is seemingly not enforcing it. As can be seen last night and today at the Ambassador Bridge. No one moved even though the injunction was in place. Cops are scared to enforce the injunction.
Why? Because they do not have the people or equipment or balls to prevent the enforcement from turning ugly.
If the cops start to hand out fines, arrest people and physically move vehicles, the shit will hit the fan and it will become violent.
Local cops and RCMP have been hesitant and allowed it to come to what it is.
I think, in MyOpinion, that the only ones that can do something to clear up the blockades would be the Military. They could move in and tow trucks and pick up people (in Aid to Civil Power authority) and then leave. That would save face of the local police and RCMP.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Okay, absolutely serious here.

Why refuse Boom?

What is it you "want"? And yes I get you've likely said it before, but humour me; condense it down here.

I’m assuming he doesn’t want to be caught up in that goat rodeo. I sure as Hell don’t.

I’ve got a load (this is one of 30 trucks) set up already (these all have to be set up in advance electronically for specific borders, or if the driver arrives at the border without it being set up with the correct notice, the carrier gets an automatic $2000 fine as a starting point in fines by CBSA) to cross into Canada Saturday PM/SundayAM at Peace Bridge going into Mississauga (so that it avoids the Windsor Detroit protest) & there are rumours of that border crossing getting hit this weekend now….

It’s much easier to get around this nonsense in Western Canada because you don’t have to work around the Great Lakes.

I have contingency plans and check-in points for a pile of loads coming out from south of the Great Lakes into Western Canada. How do you work around these damn lakes though on top of the largest percentage of the population of the country so more yahoos to block off fewer entry points???

This is the reason I was up at 5:30 AM on a Saturday morning just to try and put my finger on the pulse of this stupidity in eastern Canada and working out more contingency plans (1000 Islands Crossing, Way out of the way, taking way more time and way more fuel, and not any guarantee that it’s not going to get choked up in this nonsense also?).

 

[MyOpinion]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1492318502635646978

It's funny Doug Ford, that fat Crackhead thinks his new law will work any different than Bill 1 in Alberta.. it is against the Canadian Charter of Rights.. reason it hasn't been used to clear Coutts.

Against what Charter Rights?
Some people keep throwing out Charter of Rights violations and no one can actually come up with what is being broken. if there were any charter breaches during the pandemic and now this there would be court actions all over the place and, there is none.

 

[mentalfloss]

I love when conbots trot out the Charter of Rights and freedoms line.

These are the same people who will regularly vilify anyone who legitimately refers to it. It's wonderful hypocrisy, especially considering it doesn't even apply to this circumstance.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I love when conbots trot out the Charter of Rights and freedoms line.

These are the same people who will regularly vilify anyone who legitimately refers to it. It's wonderful hypocrisy, especially considering it doesn't even apply to this circumstance.

Right now we’re “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” on the Saturday morning of Super Bowl weekend.

I can see what should have been done, but wasn’t, in my opinion, and you can do the same….but right now this is going to pour out into all the smaller border crossings that’re keeping things moving while the three crossings are plugged up that the media & most Canadians are aware of.

Shit’s going to get very real in the next 2-3 days….& then what? That might be a good direction to take this thread in.

Prognostications as to what’s going to happen in the next two or three days and what should happen in response or proactively before they happen. i’m saying many of the smaller border crossings are going to get plugged up, and they are the ones that are keeping product moving across the border at this point. I don’t know what the answer is but I’m curious to hear what others have to say….& in looking back in hindsight a few months from now who will be right and who will be wrong on what will happen, and what should’ve happened?

 

[spaminator]

Alberta woman chokes up describing how border protest prevented family from seeing dying grandma
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Publishing date:Feb 10, 2022 • 1 day ago • 2 minute read • 74 Comments
A truck convoy of anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate demonstrators continue to block the highway at the busy U.S. border crossing in Coutts, Alta., Feb. 2, 2022.
A truck convoy of anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate demonstrators continue to block the highway at the busy U.S. border crossing in Coutts, Alta., Feb. 2, 2022. PHOTO BY JEFF MCINTOSH /THE CANADIAN PRESS
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COUTTS, Alta. — A woman says her family members couldn’t say goodbye to their dying mother because of protesters blocking the main U.S. border crossing in southern Alberta.

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Megan Allan of Medicine Hat, Alta., said her aunts tried to come back to the province from Arizona when their 94-year-old mother’s health took a turn for the worse.

They booked the soonest flight to Great Falls, Mont., with plans to pick up their vehicle and drive north through the Coutts border crossing, said Allan. On Jan. 31, the blockade forced them to drive to another entry point that opened at 8 a.m. the following day.

Their mother died earlier that morning.

“They would have made it if they could have gone through (Coutts),” said Allan, just before wiping a tear from her cheek.

“I understand that the truckers’ message is to be about freedom but their protest affected my family’s freedom and my aunts will never get the chance to say goodbye.”

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She shared her story during an NDP press conference on Thursday where Alberta’s Opposition called again on the United Conservative Party government to remove the illegal blockade that has been restricting, or outright blocking, access for nearly two weeks.

Demonstrators are protesting against COVID-19 vaccine mandates for cross-border truckers and broader public health restrictions. The blockade has been ongoing since Jan. 29.

Despite plans announced Tuesday by the Alberta government to phase out all COVID-19 measures, the blockade continued with “renewed resolve,” said one of the lawyers representing the participants.

“Protesters are demanding concrete and immediate deadlines for the lifting of all lockdown and vaccine mandates, both provincial and federal,” Calgary-based lawyer Chad Williamson said Wednesday.

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RCMP Supt. Roberta McKale said vehicles continued to block the border Thursday with large convoys of commercial and personal vehicles at Coutts and further north near Milk River, Alta.

McKale said Mounties are encouraging protesters to move to a field on the south edge of Milk River to essentially switch the protest from unlawful to lawful.

“We continue with that effort to try to convince people to make their way up there,” she said. “There’s not one person there right now.”

RCMP began issuing tickets late Wednesday for various offences at Milk River, as well as to drivers who were parked illegally whose tickets will be sent by mail.

It’s estimated more than 200 passenger and commercial vehicles, camper trailers and tractors are impeding traffic in Milk River. Another 100 vehicles are in Coutts, where the Alberta movement ignited.

Alberta woman chokes up describing how border protest prevented family from seeing dying grandma

COUTTS, Alta. — A woman says her family members couldn’t say goodbye to their dying mother because of protesters blocking the main U.S. border crossing in southern …

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[Ron in Regina]

Fort Erie ON/Buffalo NY & Regway SK are next. Proactively, what should or shouldn’t happen?

'Freedom Convoy' truckers' protest coming to Peace Bridge Saturday

Not only is the Canadian trucker turmoil interfering with trade across the border with the U.S., it's coming to Fort Erie on the Canadian end of the Peace Bridge Saturday. How many trucks isn't clear, but an array of police agencies and government branches are preparing.

www.wbfo.org

Sask. premier asks protesters not to block border crossings during planned weekend demonstrations

Saskatchewan's premier is asking protesters not to block border crossings during demonstrations planned for the weekend.

regina.ctvnews.ca

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Right now we’re “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” on the Saturday morning of Super Bowl weekend.

I can see what should have been done, but wasn’t, in my opinion, and you can do the same….but right now this is going to pour out into all the smaller border crossings that’re keeping things moving while the three crossings are plugged up that the media & most Canadians are aware of.

Shit’s going to get very real in the next 2-3 days….& then what? That might be a good direction to take this thread in.

Prognostications as to what’s going to happen in the next two or three days and what should happen in response or proactively before they happen. i’m saying many of the smaller border crossings are going to get plugged up, and they are the ones that are keeping product moving across the border at this point. I don’t know what the answer is but I’m curious to hear what others have to say….& in looking back in hindsight a few months from now who will be right and who will be wrong on what will happen, and what should’ve happened?

There's also a lot of "True Dope shoulda," but it is a delicate balance, what the PM should intervene in, and what the PM should leave to lower-level and local authority. I don't recollect Trump, nor the Attorney General, nor any other Federal official (nor any state official) offering to meet with BLM.

And I'm forced to point out that if any Tory or NDP premier or PM met with, or offered to meet with, the truckers, I musta missed it.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Fort Erie ON/Buffalo NY & Regway SK are next. Proactively, what should or shouldn’t happen?

Provincial and Federal justice officials should offer to meet with any local group. Senior cops too. They should listen a lot, and their message should be "Protest all you like. Do not break the law. It will be enforced on you just like FN protesters, environmental protesters, or just people throwing a party. If you resist, it will get ugly."

 

[spaminator]

Alberta woman chokes up describing how border protest prevented family from seeing dying grandma
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Publishing date:Feb 10, 2022 • 1 day ago • 2 minute read • 74 Comments
A truck convoy of anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate demonstrators continue to block the highway at the busy U.S. border crossing in Coutts, Alta., Feb. 2, 2022.
A truck convoy of anti-COVID-19 vaccine mandate demonstrators continue to block the highway at the busy U.S. border crossing in Coutts, Alta., Feb. 2, 2022. PHOTO BY JEFF MCINTOSH /THE CANADIAN PRESS
Article content
COUTTS, Alta. — A woman says her family members couldn’t say goodbye to their dying mother because of protesters blocking the main U.S. border crossing in southern Alberta.

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STORY CONTINUES BELOW

Article content
Megan Allan of Medicine Hat, Alta., said her aunts tried to come back to the province from Arizona when their 94-year-old mother’s health took a turn for the worse.

They booked the soonest flight to Great Falls, Mont., with plans to pick up their vehicle and drive north through the Coutts border crossing, said Allan. On Jan. 31, the blockade forced them to drive to another entry point that opened at 8 a.m. the following day.

Their mother died earlier that morning.

“They would have made it if they could have gone through (Coutts),” said Allan, just before wiping a tear from her cheek.

“I understand that the truckers’ message is to be about freedom but their protest affected my family’s freedom and my aunts will never get the chance to say goodbye.”

Advertisement
STORY CONTINUES BELOW

Article content
She shared her story during an NDP press conference on Thursday where Alberta’s Opposition called again on the United Conservative Party government to remove the illegal blockade that has been restricting, or outright blocking, access for nearly two weeks.

Demonstrators are protesting against COVID-19 vaccine mandates for cross-border truckers and broader public health restrictions. The blockade has been ongoing since Jan. 29.

Despite plans announced Tuesday by the Alberta government to phase out all COVID-19 measures, the blockade continued with “renewed resolve,” said one of the lawyers representing the participants.

“Protesters are demanding concrete and immediate deadlines for the lifting of all lockdown and vaccine mandates, both provincial and federal,” Calgary-based lawyer Chad Williamson said Wednesday.

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People in downtown Ottawa during the Freedom Convoy protest, Sunday, February 6, 2022.
WARMINGTON: Crowdfunding for truckers' protest a case of give and take
Protestors block the last entrance to the Ambassador Bridge, which connects Detroit and Windsor, effectively shutting it down as truckers and their supporters continue to protest against the COVID-19 vaccine mandates, in Windsor, Ont., Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2022.
Protesters settle in at Ambassador Bridge, Windsor mayor to seek injunction
Children play on snow banks as truckers and their supporters continue to protest against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccine mandates, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, February 8, 2022.
Retired paramedic fears kids at Ottawa protest exposed to toxic diesel fumes

RCMP Supt. Roberta McKale said vehicles continued to block the border Thursday with large convoys of commercial and personal vehicles at Coutts and further north near Milk River, Alta.

McKale said Mounties are encouraging protesters to move to a field on the south edge of Milk River to essentially switch the protest from unlawful to lawful.

“We continue with that effort to try to convince people to make their way up there,” she said. “There’s not one person there right now.”

RCMP began issuing tickets late Wednesday for various offences at Milk River, as well as to drivers who were parked illegally whose tickets will be sent by mail.

It’s estimated more than 200 passenger and commercial vehicles, camper trailers and tractors are impeding traffic in Milk River. Another 100 vehicles are in Coutts, where the Alberta movement ignited.

Alberta woman chokes up describing how border protest prevented family from seeing dying grandma

COUTTS, Alta. — A woman says her family members couldn’t say goodbye to their dying mother because of protesters blocking the main U.S. border crossing in southern …

torontosun.com

i had to go to a funeral. i wish protesters had prevented me from going.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

There's also a lot of "True Dope shoulda," but it is a delicate balance, what the PM should intervene in, and what the PM should leave to lower-level and local authority. I don't recollect Trump, nor the Attorney General, nor any other Federal official (nor any state official) offering to meet with BLM.

And I'm forced to point out that if any Tory or NDP premier or PM met with, or offered to meet with, the truckers, I musta missed it.

TrueDope interacted with BLM including kneeling at one of their protests. He set his own precedent (IMHO).

 

[Ron in Regina]

Provincial and Federal justice officials should offer to meet with any local group. Senior cops too. They should listen a lot, and their message should be "Protest all you like. Do not break the law. It will be enforced on you just like FN protesters, environmental protesters, or just people throwing a party. If you resist, it will get ugly."

“I am asking you to exercise that right and make your voices heard without impeding the rights of others to cross the border,” Moe said in the statement.

“The people in those trucks and other vehicles crossing the border are your fellow Canadians. They are your Saskatchewan friends and neighbours. Don’t advocate for your freedoms by obstructing theirs.”

Sask. premier asks protesters not to block border crossings during planned weekend demonstrations

Saskatchewan's premier is asking protesters not to block border crossings during demonstrations planned for the weekend.

regina.ctvnews.ca

In a message posted to social media, Premier Scott Moe said he and his government hear the concerns of protesters, but asked them not to disrupt Saskatchewan border crossings.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

“I am asking you to exercise that right and make your voices heard without impeding the rights of others to cross the border,” Moe said in the statement.

“The people in those trucks and other vehicles crossing the border are your fellow Canadians. They are your Saskatchewan friends and neighbours. Don’t advocate for your freedoms by obstructing theirs.”

Sask. premier asks protesters not to block border crossings during planned weekend demonstrations

Saskatchewan's premier is asking protesters not to block border crossings during demonstrations planned for the weekend.

regina.ctvnews.ca

In a message posted to social media, Premier Scott Moe said he and his government hear the concerns of protesters, but asked them not to disrupt Saskatchewan border crossings.

Good for Moe. Keep it up. And get SK's justice minister (whatever the position is called) or a top-level Mountie out there in person. Telling people they're being heard is nice, saying it in person is 100 times more convincing. It's why politicians hold rallies.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

TrueDope interacted with BLM including kneeling at one of their protests. He set his own precedent (IMHO).

Legitimate and very telling point. Maybe a member of the Canadian press should ask him if BLM is more important to him than Canadian truckers.

Assuming they can find him.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Legitimate and very telling point. Maybe a member of the Canadian press should ask him if BLM is more important to him than Canadian truckers.

Assuming they can find him.

Perhaps he’ll respond from the “BatPeople Cave”?

(I know I come across is hard on Trudeau but he’s such a douche-pickle, and it’s like watching an accident happened in slow motion where you can’t do anything about it but you know it’s gonna be bad. That’s been the last six years that this guy has been the PM)

 

[Ron in Regina]

Protest crowd remains on Ambassador Bridge after police clear out part of blockade — CBC News

A crowd of defiant anti-mandate demonstrators remained on the street leading to the Ambassador Bridge border crossing in Windsor, Ont., on Saturday night, hours after police had moved in to break up the days-long protest and clear some of the blockade.

apple.news

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Perhaps he’ll respond from the “BatPeople Cave”?

(I know I come across is hard on Trudeau but he’s such a douche-pickle, and it’s like watching an accident happened in slow motion where you can’t do anything about it but you know it’s gonna be bad. That’s been the last six years that this guy has been the PM)

I do, too, and I'm a foreigner with very, very little business speaking on the subject. But a fact's a fact: y'all got a weak PM. Just like we had with Carter. Fine, arguably noble man. Not a great president.

 

[MyOpinion]

I love when conbots trot out the Charter of Rights and freedoms line.

These are the same people who will regularly vilify anyone who legitimately refers to it. It's wonderful hypocrisy, especially considering it doesn't even apply to this circumstance.

You may love the "conbots" but when they ask the question of what rights are being violated....the whiners are deadly quiet. They have no answer. they just whine about rights being violated but cannot tell you what rights are being violated.
So, instead of blowing hot air, tell what rights are violated. Oh wait, there are non but it makes them feel and sound like they know what they are talking about but really don't LOL
If there actually was a legitimate complaint, then describe it. But considering it does not apply, it is just blowhard bullshit.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You may love the "conbots" but when they ask the question of what rights are being violated....the whiners are deadly quiet. They have no answer. they just whine about rights being violated but cannot tell you what rights are being violated.
So, instead of blowing hot air, tell what rights are violated. Oh wait, there are non but it makes them feel and sound like they know what they are talking about but really don't lOL

Depends. Are you trying to dig into their grievances and figure out what the real problem is, or are you looking for ammo for an argument?

If the former, there are a number of techniques. A good mediator could help.

If the latter, you really don't need ammo for a slagging match. Just hunker down in your corner and yell.

 

[MyOpinion]

Depends. Are you trying to dig into their grievances and figure out what the real problem is, or are you looking for ammo for an argument?

If the former, there are a number of techniques. A good mediator could help.

If the latter, you really don't need ammo for a slagging match. Just hunker down in your corner and yell.

Not looking for an argument nor trying to find out the real problem (although I do have an opinion on what the real problem is ).
Just pointing out the over use of "violating my Charter Rghts" statements being bullshit unless there is a specific rights that is being violated. When questioned what rights, there is never an answer, just crickets or deflection.