Trend shows 'material increase' in PPC support

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Trend shows 'material increase' in PPC support​

On the ballot question, when it comes to how many Canadians would actually vote for the party as their first ranked choice, the PPC is polling at seven per cent nationally, ahead of the Green party and on par with the Bloc Quebecois.

 

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I'm going to assume that the majority of us are very well off and make over $100,000 a year and that us posters at Canadian Content Forum live in a bubble from everyone else. That's why we can sit here have a good time and troll everyone.

Unfortunately the rest of Canada arent like us. People are getting desperate out there flossy and no one knows where they fit in anymore. The cons and libs dont have regular Canadians interests at heart so where are they going to turn? I'm not supporting the PPC at all, but this rising trend is just another symptom that our system is failing and people are tired of being tapped out.

I know lots of people who just cant get out of poverty no matter how hard they try. Then when they ask for help they get ignored or ridiculed and what good does that do?

The people living on disability who cant legally work are in even worse condition, what are they going to do when our services and support keep failing them? Where are they going to turn?

All these people are going to turn to the people pretending to listen to them. We call them extremists but they're just really desperate for any form of help.

Everyone is slowly losing their social mobility. Including you and I.

It's not looking good out there.

Have you ever talked to the homeless to try and understand them? Or are you the kind of person who drives by them thinking they're losers?

Just my opinion.
 
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Forget the term populist, all politicians are populist.

With social media making things easier we are going to see more CHARISMATIC leaders and less mumbly Joe's. People who are just the loudest in the room with no substance, and people like Pierre and Justin will become the norm. I also laugh at the people who got screwed into investing doge coin because Elon musk pumped it up lol. Some made money but alot didn't.

Our media is practically state sponsored at this point and the government is trying it best the restrict and control our internet browsing habits.

They've attacked legal gun owners by outlawing "Assault" style weapons because in my opinion they knew shit was going to hell quickly.

I dont agree with the trucker blockade but one thing it did show is that our government scares easily.

At one point when people have everything taken away from them and nothing left the last thing those people will care about is being called a racist. And these people are growing in numbers.

I honestly hope I'm wrong.
 
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Ask yourself if most people are happy and few people are suffering.

The leader might be brash or civil but accomplish the same thing.
 

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Ask yourself if most people are happy and few people are suffering.

The leader might be brash or civil but accomplish the same thing.

Seems to be less and less people are staying happy.

Remember when I was going on about human trafficking years ago and people ignored me just the same? I'm still seeing that exploitation increasing in some communities I frequent. No one wants to hear about it but it's still there, festering.

Not anyones fault just no one was able to relate to the situations I witnessed. Just different lives we live.

Also too I'm a bad communicator lol. My heart is in the right place.
 
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Seems to be less and less people are staying happy.

Remember when I was going on about human trafficking years ago and people ignored me just the same? I'm still seeing that exploitation increasing in some communities I frequent. No one wants to hear about it but it's still there, festering.

Not anyones fault just no one was able to relate to the situations I witnessed. Just different lives we live.

Also too I'm a bad communicator lol. My heart is in the right place.

I hear that.

If I'm going to preach anything it's usually utilitarianism.

None of us have to be relegated to any one point of the political spectrum when the question begins with how we look after the best interests of all involved.

We could all be total selfish assholes and somehow that would benefit everyone.

I don't think that's likely, but that's the libertarian creed and they believe it because they think it benefits everyone.
 

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I hear that.

If I'm going to preach anything it's usually utilitarianism.

None of us have to be relegated to any one point of the political spectrum when the question begins with how we look after the best interests of all involved.

We could all be total selfish assholes and somehow that would benefit everyone.

I don't think that's likely, but that's the libertarian creed and they believe it because they think it benefits everyone.
And yet the Western way, from the shiremoot of the Saxons forward, has always recognized certain rights held by each individual. As it's understood in English-descended law (that'd include the U.S. and Canada), that means that there are certain things that a person may do whether or not another person or ALL the other people don't like it.

Utilitarianism is a useful analytical tool, but it ain't the be-all and end-all of political philosophy.
 

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And yet the Western way, from the shiremoot of the Saxons forward, has always recognized certain rights held by each individual. As it's understood in English-descended law (that'd include the U.S. and Canada), that means that there are certain things that a person may do whether or not another person or ALL the other people don't like it.

Utilitarianism is a useful analytical tool, but it ain't the be-all and end-all of political philosophy.

It really is since any law that has stood the test of time, only does so because the consequences remain easy to predict and are generally agreed upon.
 

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Horse shit. Today's "sound and widely supported" law is tomorrow's human-rights violation.

Which one?

Other than the abortion law in Texas, I can't think of many other exceptions.

I'm referring to really obvious stuff, like murder and drunk driving.
 

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Which one?

Other than the abortion law in Texas, I can't think of many other exceptions.

I'm referring to really obvious stuff, like murder and drunk driving.
How about laws that segregate bathrooms by sex?

How about laws literally millennia old that said marriage was only opposite-sex? Those were only changed within your lifetime. For millennia they were considered sound and were supported by the huge majority of the population.
 

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How about laws that segregate bathrooms by sex?

How about laws literally millennia old that said marriage was only opposite-sex? Those were only changed within your lifetime. For millennia they were considered sound and were supported by the huge majority of the population.

Yes, those are more complex scenarios for sure and people covered up the consequences for them pretty effectively over time.

But again, utilitarianism naturally reveals why they needed change.

Civil liberties exist because of us acknowledging legitimate and significant human suffering.
 

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Yes, those are more complex scenarios for sure and people covered up the consequences for them pretty effectively over time.

But again, utilitarianism naturally reveals why they needed change.

Civil liberties exist because of us acknowledging legitimate and significant human suffering.
Why? How does permitting same-sex marriage offer the greatest good for the greatest number? Apparently, the greatest number, by a long chalk, generation after generation after era after era felt that marriage should be limited to opposite-sex couples.
 

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Which one?

Other than the abortion law in Texas, I can't think of many other exceptions.

I'm referring to really obvious stuff, like murder and drunk driving.
Why? How does permitting same-sex marriage offer the greatest good for the greatest number? Apparently, the greatest number, by a long chalk, generation after generation after era after era felt that marriage should be limited to opposite-sex couples.
Monasteries are not such the rage these days .
 

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Why? How does permitting same-sex marriage offer the greatest good for the greatest number? Apparently, the greatest number, by a long chalk, generation after generation after era after era felt that marriage should be limited to opposite-sex couples.

Yes, I'm aware they were persuaded into feeling that while same sex couples suffered discrimination and mutilation that they don't suffer today.

So once again, the liberty is subservient to utility.